I think it's time for the USA to attack Iran.

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By PhiloBeddo
15 Jun 2025 9:33 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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17 Jun 2025 12:39 pm
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Cedar » 17 Jun 2025, 11:43 am » wrote: How many foreign wars do you want to fund at one time?

I don’t want to get involved in another foreign war, I don’t hate Jews. Both can be true.
Just the one stopping Iran from getting nukes is it!  And again, we're not talking about regime change or any kind of invasion.  We're talking about a few B-2 bomber runs to destroy the nuke facility in Fordow just outside of Tehran.  The Israeli's can handle anything else that's needed.  That's much more of an immediate need than spending another dime defending Ukraine, who has clearly shown that they have no interest whatsoever in a peaceful settlement with Russia, so as far as Trump is concerned, we really have no need to keep funding their war until they lose enough territory to Russia forces them to the peace table.


 
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Zeets2 » 17 Jun 2025, 12:39 pm » wrote: Just the one stopping Iran from getting nukes is it!  And again, we're not talking about regime change or any kind of invasion.  We're talking about a few B-2 bomber runs to destroy the nuke facility in Fordow just outside of Tehran.  The Israeli's can handle anything else that's needed.  That's much more of an immediate need than spending another dime defending Ukraine, who has clearly shown that they have no interest whatsoever in a peaceful settlement with Russia, so as far as Trump is concerned, we really have no need to keep funding their war until they lose enough territory to Russia forces them to the peace table.
You better think this through.  If you bomb Uranium enrichment facilities, where there may be 70% weapons grade material, enough to build 9 nuclear weapons, what happens to that after the bomb goes off, Israel leaves and the US has moved on to having a space war with China?  I'll tell you what happens:
  • Some terrorist cell with bulldozers and Geiger counters dig up that fissionable material.
  • They sell it to Yemen, Burkina Fazo and a Mexican Drug cartel. 
Then, good luck trying to put that genie back in the bottle. 

This is Israel's war.  Israel need to put boots on the ground and recover that fissionable material  I don't mind the US supporting an operation like this with intel, equipment and ordnance.  But, its up to the Israelis to get the job done and get it done right.  It will be on THEM if they half-*** this and leave fissionable uranium laying around like Joe Biden left military equipment in Afghanistan.  
 
 
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17 Jun 2025 1:17 pm
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Life is like a bunch of Russians. You never know which one isn't mafia. 
 
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17 Jun 2025 1:37 pm
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There will be a regime change....Netanyahu said so last sept. 
So, let's recap the Ignorance here...shall we.

BV posted...Only the zealously stupid, like zeet and a few other local dim lights, believe that 1.87 has any meaning beyond the symbolic. Supply/Demand stooges who believe POTUS can control oil prices.........

Then he posted....Grifty was the entire reason gas went to 4.50 this year. :lol:
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17 Jun 2025 1:42 pm
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Skans » 17 Jun 2025, 1:11 pm » wrote: You better think this through.  If you bomb Uranium enrichment facilities, where there may be 70% weapons grade material, enough to build 9 nuclear weapons, what happens to that after the bomb goes off, Israel leaves and the US has moved on to having a space war with China?  I'll tell you what happens:
  • Some terrorist cell with bulldozers and Geiger counters dig up that fissionable material.
  • They sell it to Yemen, Burkina Fazo and a Mexican Drug cartel. 
Then, good luck trying to put that genie back in the bottle. 

This is Israel's war.  Israel need to put boots on the ground and recover that fissionable material  I don't mind the US supporting an operation like this with intel, equipment and ordnance.  But, its up to the Israelis to get the job done and get it done right.  It will be on THEM if they half-*** this and leave fissionable uranium laying around like Joe Biden left military equipment in Afghanistan.
I would think that once it's destroyed, Iran will sue for peace or the theocracy will be overthrown.  Part of any peace treaty with both Israel and the US would certainly include that any recovery of fissionable material will be done by the IAEA or the US alone.  And I believe this is the reason that the Iranian oil industry has yet to be destroyed by Israel.  That's the sword that will be hanging over the heads of Iranian mullahs to accept those terms or watch their entire capacity for their economy be destroyed.

Simple, no?
 
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17 Jun 2025 1:49 pm
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Zeets2 » 17 Jun 2025, 1:42 pm » wrote: I would think that once it's destroyed, Iran will sue for peace or the theocracy will be overthrown.  Part of any peace treaty with both Israel and the US would certainly include that any recovery of fissionable material will be done by the IAEA or the US alone.  And I believe this is the reason that the Iranian oil industry has yet to be destroyed by Israel.  That's the sword that will be hanging over the heads of Iranian mullahs to accept those terms or watch their entire capacity for their economy be destroyed.

Simple, no?
Do you trust the Iranian Mullahs to stick with any "deal"?
 
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17 Jun 2025 1:52 pm
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Israel's Netanyahu doesn't rule out targeting Iran's supreme leader …He knows what really needs to happen.
So, let's recap the Ignorance here...shall we.

BV posted...Only the zealously stupid, like zeet and a few other local dim lights, believe that 1.87 has any meaning beyond the symbolic. Supply/Demand stooges who believe POTUS can control oil prices.........

Then he posted....Grifty was the entire reason gas went to 4.50 this year. :lol:
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17 Jun 2025 1:53 pm
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Israel's Netanyahu doesn't rule out targeting Iran's supreme leader …

He knows what really needs to happen.
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So, let's recap the Ignorance here...shall we.

BV posted...Only the zealously stupid, like zeet and a few other local dim lights, believe that 1.87 has any meaning beyond the symbolic. Supply/Demand stooges who believe POTUS can control oil prices.........

Then he posted....Grifty was the entire reason gas went to 4.50 this year. :lol:
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17 Jun 2025 2:07 pm
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Skans » 17 Jun 2025, 1:49 pm » wrote: Do you trust the Iranian Mullahs to stick with any "deal"?
When the alternative is watching their oil industry be wiped out, OR having a precision missile targeting their office, yes I do!
Israel wouldn't put up with that kind of **** like we would!
 
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Zeets2 » 17 Jun 2025, 2:07 pm » wrote: When the alternative is watching their oil industry be wiped out, OR having a precision missile targeting their office, yes I do!
Israel wouldn't put up with that kind of **** like we would!
That's a good point. 
 
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Cannonpointer » 17 Jun 2025, 10:02 am » wrote: It's almost like your lying eyes just cannot be trusted. 

Time after time, year after year, israel sends missiles to murder Iranians and destroy insfrastructure. 

And your response? "The Iranians SAID STUFF! They SAID STUFF!!! Every time they get hit with American missiles by an American proxy, THEY KEEP SAYING STUFF!!!"

Israel is a small country, densely populated. The felching homo that started this thread talks quite casually about genocide. But when you actually look at who is sitting pretty for a genocide, it isn't the population of Iran. Iran is 8 times less densely populated than Israel.

Anyone who believes that the axis of evil is going to be allowed to erase Iran - a very necessary nation-state of 90 million souls with its own unique language and culture and a history going back millenia - is simply a **** middle school moron. And by this I mean the OP - not you. As to you, I would simply advise that you start to trust your senses again. They're more reliable than jewish controlled media propaganda, because they are not designed for the express purpose of lying to you. They're actually designed to inform - not misinform. The jewish media, OTOH...
As you can surmise from a few years of my ****, I actually know a couple Iranians. Acquaintances to be sure, but after a few years a bit more than that. Their opinions can resonate as well with me.
It's funny how the regular populace of a country somehow doesn't spew the "journalists' analysis". Chinese, Russian, Korean, American... The MSM is **** as hell on a global level IMO.
I end up thinking there are lots of Iranians that wouldn't feel too bad if the religious-****-in-charge took a sabbatical from politicking for a generation or so.
 
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17 Jun 2025 2:58 pm
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DeezerShoove » 17 Jun 2025, 2:50 pm » wrote: As you can surmise from a few years of my ****, I actually know a couple Iranians. Acquaintances to be sure, but after a few years a bit more than that. Their opinions can resonate as well with me.
It's funny how the regular populace of a country somehow doesn't spew the "journalists' analysis". Chinese, Russian, Korean, American... The MSM is **** as hell on a global level IMO.
I end up thinking there are lots of Iranians that wouldn't feel too bad if the religious-****-in-charge took a sabbatical from politicking for a generation or so.
Iranians in the US?  Or Iranians in Iran.  There is a difference. 
 
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Skans » 17 Jun 2025, 12:10 pm » wrote: Gee, Dad thanks for explaining to me that condoms break. But, Stepmom-GG taught me about that several years ago!
She was teraching that to *** before she taught it to you, son. 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

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An opinion you won't defend is not your own

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Skans » 17 Jun 2025, 2:58 pm » wrote: Iranians in the US?  Or Iranians in Iran.  There is a difference.

Admittedly my Iranian acquaintances are escapees.
The difference being what exactly? Enlighten me.
Please seat yourself.

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17 Jun 2025 3:20 pm
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DeezerShoove » 17 Jun 2025, 2:50 pm » wrote: As you can surmise from a few years of my ****, I actually know a couple Iranians. Acquaintances to be sure, but after a few years a bit more than that. Their opinions can resonate as well with me.
It's funny how the regular populace of a country somehow doesn't spew the "journalists' analysis". Chinese, Russian, Korean, American... The MSM is **** as hell on a global level IMO.
I end up thinking there are lots of Iranians that wouldn't feel too bad if the religious-****-in-charge took a sabbatical from politicking for a generation or so.
If you would know how Iranians think, go to Iran.
If you would know how Iranian EXPATS think, you're in the right place and asking the right people the right questions. 

But for all the wrong reasons, seems to me. 
 
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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17 Jun 2025 3:22 pm
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Skans » 17 Jun 2025, 12:10 pm » wrote: Gee, Dad thanks for explaining to me that condoms break. But, Stepmom-GG taught me about that several years ago!
Oh - and also, she did a **** job because you CLEARLY are incapable of taking the lesson and applying it across domains. Your pre-adolescent pretense that we're not on a collision course with being your masters' goy army is either dishonest or stupid. If I knew which, I would know which insult to use right now. 
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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17 Jun 2025 3:24 pm
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General info:

Iran, gun ownership is generally restricted, and it is illegal for most citizens to own firearms. While there are some exceptions, such as for certain members of the Basij militia, retired military personnel, and those working in specific security roles, these are limited and subject to specific regulations. The government has also made efforts to recover illegal firearms through amnesties, suggesting a widespread issue with illegal gun ownership.
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Cannonpointer » 17 Jun 2025, 3:20 pm » wrote: If you would know how Iranians think, go to Iran.
If you would know how Iranian EXPATS think, you're in the right place and asking the right people the right questions. 

But for all the wrong reasons, seems to me.
What wrong reasons? We just chat and I don't grill them.
Their impressions voiced to me paints a picture of why they did all they could
to escape the government (not their own people).

They are just another set of folks that have said (to my face) about Americans in general:
"You don't realize what you have here."
 
Please seat yourself.

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17 Jun 2025 3:56 pm
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Cannonpointer » 17 Jun 2025, 3:13 pm » wrote: She was teraching that to *** before she taught it to you, son.
Why, Daddy, WHY???

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17 Jun 2025 4:01 pm
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DeezerShoove » 17 Jun 2025, 3:19 pm » wrote: Admittedly my Iranian acquaintances are escapees.
The difference being what exactly? Enlighten me.
Well, perhaps the ones that are still there like it there.  Just perhaps the Iranian men like their women wearing burkas, like to have complete dominance over them, like to be allowed to treat them like personal property.  After decades of being allowed to do this, do you think they looking to trade it for this......Image Also, how many freaking Iranians do you know?  I knew one once, but he was Christian. 
 
 
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