That's a good question for a gun smith forum....[probably in the FAQ section]
It's probably easier to just send a part out for replication to a 3D metal printing company. I'd like to have the skill to at least make the several parts at the top here:*GHETTOBLASTER » 19 Jun 2025, 9:40 am » wrote: ↑ That's a good question for a gun smith forum....[probably in the FAQ section]
I would guess that a mill is more useful for gun work...?
Wear and corrosion resistance is part of the deal too.Skans » 19 Jun 2025, 9:42 am » wrote: ↑ It's probably easier to just send a part out for replication to a 3D metal printing company. I'd like to have the skill to at least make the several parts at the top here:
Problem is, I know that the one part is cast and the other parts are likely just stamped.
If you saw what he and his son take in for repair, there aren't many, if any that could fix what they do...*GHETTOBLASTER » 19 Jun 2025, 9:06 am » wrote: ↑ I swear...you simply can not be a farmer or a rancher without being a self taught iron worker too.
Well you can but the cost of hiring that work out is horrendous and the huge loss of time waiting to get something fixed or custom made by someone else is enough to make a grown man cry..
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"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom I wonder how many of them are even around anymore as it seems more and more schools are dropping their classes...Skans » 19 Jun 2025, 8:34 am » wrote: ↑ I want to find a good technical school to teach me proper metal working. When I retire, that's on my bucket list.
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"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom I worked in a couple of machine shops in the late 70's. Over the years my know how has come to good use...a few years back, I picked up an atlas craftsman 12 x 36...2 years later I picked up a bench top mill after realizing the lathe's shortcomings...*GHETTOBLASTER » 19 Jun 2025, 8:59 am » wrote: ↑ I've had the same wish..but instead just ended up being a self taught hack.
I bought a HF 9x13 lathe about 20 years ago for about $1000 and over the years I've been able to make about $20 worth of stuff with it.![]()
I'm just joking...I don't use that machine often but over the years it has proven to be irreplaceable as a problem solver when it comes to supporting my hobbies and for keeping my other machines and old equipment running.
FACEBOOK might be a good way to hook up with Gun Smith Clubs or else the Home Machinist Forums on the internet are a wealth of knowledge.
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"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom ROG62 » 19 Jun 2025, 2:33 pm » wrote: ↑ I worked in a couple of machine shops in the late 70's. Over the years my know how has come to good use...a few years back, I picked up an atlas craftsman 12 x 36...2 years later I picked up a bench top mill after realizing the lathe's shortcomings...
Sunday I'm going to look at a Logan 12 x 23 variable speed lathe as I'm looking for something more robust...plus the 1.4" spindle bore is a huge plus...
it's a sickness, that's for sure...![]()
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Look, the *** queer is channeling again...Blackvegetable » 18 Jun 2025, 9:24 am » wrote: ↑ Observe how gay minds think alike...
Have you met @murdock ? He's a sub, likes umbrella drinks and long crawls through the snow.
Of course, you'll have to flip for bottom.
well I'm certainly not going to tell you, Mr Showoff....*GHETTOBLASTER » 19 Jun 2025, 2:54 pm » wrote: ↑YOO DA MAN...!!!
What's the most IMPRESSIVE thing you've made with your equipment...?
Here I am with my very first machine shop project that I did when I was 10......https://youtu.be/yA8jPjjPwkk?si=1M_BWATxNi3SfgL0







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"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom Not necessarily...both machines have strengths and weaknesses...or a dual need...like a square head bolt...*GHETTOBLASTER » 19 Jun 2025, 9:40 am » wrote: ↑ That's a good question for a gun smith forum....[probably in the FAQ section]
I would guess that a mill is more useful for gun work...?
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"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom Very nice...!ROG62 » 19 Jun 2025, 9:23 pm » wrote: ↑ well I'm certainly not going to tell you, Mr Showoff....
I'm like you, something breaks, needs improvement or I come up with an idea for something I need or want...the latter being the fun part...
the mill I purchased is CNC, along with learning how to mill stuff, I'm also learning G-code...very simple processes, just automatically vs hand feed...
unfortunately, the stepper motor mounts the guy made for the machine, he made on a 3D printer...it was either a poor choice of material or application, but they're all cracked at torque points...let's just jump right into the deepest end of the pool, right?
this one is made and on the machine...
these 2 I have roughed out on the lathe, now I need to finish milling...
here's a Ford C-4 tail shaft bushing driver ...couldn't find one to borrow, so...
I have a complete transmission bushing driver set and the drivers look nothing like that.ROG62 » 19 Jun 2025, 9:23 pm » wrote: ↑ well I'm certainly not going to tell you, Mr Showoff....
I'm like you, something breaks, needs improvement or I come up with an idea for something I need or want...the latter being the fun part...
the mill I purchased is CNC, along with learning how to mill stuff, I'm also learning G-code...very simple processes, just automatically vs hand feed...
unfortunately, the stepper motor mounts the guy made for the machine, he made on a 3D printer...it was either a poor choice of material or application, but they're all cracked at torque points...let's just jump right into the deepest end of the pool, right?
this one is made and on the machine...
these 2 I have roughed out on the lathe, now I need to finish milling...
here's a Ford C-4 tail shaft bushing driver ...couldn't find one to borrow, so...
ROG62 » 19 Jun 2025, 9:23 pm » wrote: ↑ well I'm certainly not going to tell you, Mr Showoff....
I'm like you, something breaks, needs improvement or I come up with an idea for something I need or want...the latter being the fun part...
the mill I purchased is CNC, along with learning how to mill stuff, I'm also learning G-code...very simple processes, just automatically vs hand feed...
unfortunately, the stepper motor mounts the guy made for the machine, he made on a 3D printer...it was either a poor choice of material or application, but they're all cracked at torque points...let's just jump right into the deepest end of the pool, right?
this one is made and on the machine...
these 2 I have roughed out on the lathe, now I need to finish milling...
here's a Ford C-4 tail shaft bushing driver ...couldn't find one to borrow, so...
LOL...where were you when I needed one?murdock » 20 Jun 2025, 12:04 am » wrote: ↑ I have a complete transmission bushing driver set and the drivers look nothing like that.
This is what they look like:
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"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom I suppose he thought it was a good idea at the time, but the stresses are proving too great. I'm making the new ones out of 6061 aluminum...hopefully I'll have them done this winter...*GHETTOBLASTER » 19 Jun 2025, 10:36 pm » wrote: ↑ Very nice...!
I am amazed to see such a thin bushing used like that...but I guess it's common practice . Ford must have made a billion C4s
I'm surprised to see plastic used with the CNC mill chassis parts and able to survive for even a little while...but they did.
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"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom Maybe he broadcasts his show at night.JohnnyYou » 20 Jun 2025, 2:18 am » wrote: ↑
Yesterday the conservative radio talk show host said the Sun is not a reliable source of energy. I thought to myself the thing has worked without interruption for 4.5 Billion years and without it nobody would be here..
My CNC experience consisted of the ticker tapes in 1980...FFW 40 years and it's a dream that anyone can do, if so inclined...JohnnyYou » 20 Jun 2025, 2:18 am » wrote: ↑ One of the more interesting things that came out of Dad's shop was a rod of nearly pure Beryllium. It's fascinating if you ever get a chance to hold the 4th element in solid form in your hand.
Way to Go ROG! Learning never ends. I need a mount for a fog bell mount machined and looked at a 30$ manual xy axis vice to put on the drill press.. I cannot find the mount commercially. The bells sell at Estate Sales here for far less than the brass scrap value. I want the mount. They slip into a v notch and are removeable for the ancient analog on off button on the ringer dinger. We do have a full machine shop at the plant. I really enjoyed learning how to manually mill and lathe stuff. At one point in my career I created code for a sheet metal punch.. but it was automated to go straight from a 2D CAD file to code..
Yesterday the conservative radio talk show host said the Sun is not a reliable source of energy. I thought to myself the thing has worked without interruption for 4.5 Billion years and without it nobody would be here.. There wouldn't even be wind power without the Sun. It looks to me you are making some bearing mounts for windmills??
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"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom
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"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom I was surprised as well...the bushings I'm used to run .062 wall...this one was razor thin...the good thing is sits flush in the housing, so the shoulder of the driver a lot larger...*GHETTOBLASTER » 19 Jun 2025, 10:36 pm » wrote: ↑ Very nice...!
I am amazed to see such a thin bushing used like that...but I guess it's common practice . Ford must have made a billion C4s
I'm surprised to see plastic used with the CNC mill chassis parts and able to survive for even a little while...but they did.
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“Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA
"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom I wonder if Ford heats the housing and chills the bushings for more of a drop in fit...?ROG62 » 20 Jun 2025, 6:45 am » wrote: ↑ I was surprised as well...the bushings I'm used to run .062 wall...this one was razor thin...the good thing is sits flush in the housing, so the shoulder of the driver a lot larger...