The end of MAGA?
By Justin Sane
18 Jun 2025 12:30 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
19 Jun 2025 1:39 pm
Was it a credible fact, when over the past 40 years, Israel has made the same claims - that Iran was months/weeks from a nuclear bomb - and years later there was still no nuclear bomb?.. over and over again? Given that accusation has been false time and time again, and given the intelligence agencies have stated there's no evidence Iran is working on a nuke, what do you think, by statistics alone, is the most likely outcome of this? That it is fact that Iran is working on a nuke, or once again, fiction?Zeets2 » 19 Jun 2025, 12:47 pm » wrote: ↑ So, you believe it's not a credible fact that Iran had several nuclear sites working on the last stages of getting a bomb like the US was able to build 80 years ago? You think we should just ignore their promises to wipe out Israel as soon as they get one and then turn their target on the US, who they still consider the Great Satan?
Sure, let's just roll the dice with a few million American lives, right?
And this is NOT some endless war that Trump is embarking on. A B-2 bomber strike on Fordow will begin and end in a matter of hours, and we're done! But of course to Trump haters like yourself, you consider that to be a "war", don't you? So tell me, genius. WHO WILL BE ON THE SIDE OF A DECIMATED IRAN for that WW3 you so stupidly envision?
Russia, who can't even finish off a neighboring country with their antiquated and remaining military?
China, who is more concerned with their own coming unemployment levels and recession due to Trump's new tariffs?
The US is back in place as the undisputed most powerful country in the world now, and you dumb liberals hate that Trump has brought us there!
The problem with your dice-roll point, is that you could attack everyone based on that premise. The manipulation is old and worn out. Avoiding this paranoia is what we have intelligence agencies for
No one mentioned anything about an endless war.
No, I'm not raking through history to 'provide links'. If you can't directly dispute a point, then question your own links.
19 Jun 2025 2:21 pm
JustinSane » 19 Jun 2025, 1:39 pm » wrote: ↑ Was it a credible fact, when over the past 40 years, Israel has made the same claims - that Iran was months/weeks from a nuclear bomb - and years later there was still no nuclear bomb?.. over and over again? Given that accusation has been false time and time again, and given the intelligence agencies have stated there's no evidence Iran is working on a nuke, what do you think, by statistics alone, is the most likely outcome of this? That it is fact that Iran is working on a nuke, or once again, fiction?
The problem with your dice-roll point, is that you could attack everyone based on that premise. The manipulation is old and worn out. Avoiding this paranoia is what we have intelligence agencies for
No one mentioned anything about an endless war.
Not passing judgement but trying to point out that technically it is possible to "keep at bay" something for years/decades. Whether or not this is actually happening does not mean it is impossible. So negating Israel's claim merely based on a passage of time is very weak.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
19 Jun 2025 2:47 pm
Trump did! He ruled out the kind of regime change attempts that failed in Viet Nam, Iraq, and Afghanistan and clearly stated that all we're doing is aiding Israel in THEIR war against Iran, and once we wipe out their nuclear capabilities, we're done!JustinSane » 19 Jun 2025, 1:39 pm » wrote: ↑ Was it a credible fact, when over the past 40 years, Israel has made the same claims - that Iran was months/weeks from a nuclear bomb - and years later there was still no nuclear bomb?.. over and over again? Given that accusation has been false time and time again, and given the intelligence agencies have stated there's no evidence Iran is working on a nuke, what do you think, by statistics alone, is the most likely outcome of this? That it is fact that Iran is working on a nuke, or once again, fiction?
The problem with your dice-roll point, is that you could attack everyone based on that premise. The manipulation is old and worn out. Avoiding this paranoia is what we have intelligence agencies for
No one mentioned anything about an endless war.
And we don't rely on Israel to tell us how far along their nuclear program has progressed. We KNOW that they have enriched their fissionable material to be very close to the 90% needed for weapons-grade, and that may only be weeks away. But you're willing to take that risk with millions of lives, stupidly believing that they wouldn't use a nuke to attack Israel or threaten any of our other allies. Thankfully, Trump and the 80% of the country that agree with him aren't as gullible as you to believe otherwise.
19 Jun 2025 3:12 pm
The MAGA Party is the new party. Get used to it.
So, let's recap the Ignorance here...shall we.
BV posted...Only the zealously stupid, like zeet and a few other local dim lights, believe that 1.87 has any meaning beyond the symbolic. Supply/Demand stooges who believe POTUS can control oil prices.........
Then he posted....Grifty was the entire reason gas went to 4.50 this year.
BV posted...Only the zealously stupid, like zeet and a few other local dim lights, believe that 1.87 has any meaning beyond the symbolic. Supply/Demand stooges who believe POTUS can control oil prices.........
Then he posted....Grifty was the entire reason gas went to 4.50 this year.
20 Jun 2025 3:00 am
Yeah, the destruction of freedom and rule of law is quite pleasant...
This is the Dawning of the Age of Precarious. Aquarius was just too DEI and deserved to be DOGED..
DUMP THE TRUMP SLUMP 2026!
Bump Caps Recommended..
Bump Caps Recommended..
20 Jun 2025 6:55 am
90% probability you never hat a MAGA hat. I haven't wanted one and yes I voted for him last 3 elections as the lesser of evils running for president. He doesn't stop the progress of governing life by reasonable doubt anymore than all the others that ran.Justin Sane » 18 Jun 2025, 12:30 pm » wrote: ↑ Mr Trump., your 'no new wars on my watch', and 'I'm an anti-war president' lines were good and earned you a lot of support/votes. It's a shame that, in the face of Israel rattling their same old tired drum, you couldn't carry on to live up to those admirable concepts.
Israel has been terrifying the world with the idea of Iran being months from a nuke for 40 years (yes, I'm old enough to remember). 3 months ago Tulsi Gabbard stated that the US intelligence agencies had no evidence of Iran nukes. Trump's reply to this important information seems to have amounted to 'IDGAF - sack the ****' - not a quote
I never gave any credence to Trump being compromised by Russia - and still don't. But Israel?.. well, that's looking increasingly likely, especially when Trump comes out with phrases like "'America First', has Israel at its heart". A paradoxical non-sequitur, it would seem. This is the verge of WW3, Trump is supporting it and is putting Americans in the firing line for a foreign county's issues. He said he wouldn't do that... It's a severe failure.
MAGA hat withdrawn until further notice.
20 Jun 2025 11:19 am
Not according to US intelligence agencies. So how do we 'KNOW' ?Zeets2 » 19 Jun 2025, 2:47 pm » wrote: ↑We KNOW that they have enriched their fissionable material to be very close to the 90% needed for weapons-grade, and that may only be weeks away.
No, I'm not raking through history to 'provide links'. If you can't directly dispute a point, then question your own links.
20 Jun 2025 11:20 am
You're 50% correct. I actually do have one, but received it as a Christmas present. The point wasn't meant to be taken quite so literally31stArrival » 20 Jun 2025, 6:55 am » wrote: ↑ 90% probability you never hat a MAGA hat. I haven't wanted one and yes I voted for him last 3 elections as the lesser of evils running for president. He doesn't stop the progress of governing life by reasonable doubt anymore than all the others that ran.
No, I'm not raking through history to 'provide links'. If you can't directly dispute a point, then question your own links.
20 Jun 2025 11:29 am
DeezerShoove » 19 Jun 2025, 2:21 pm » wrote: ↑ Not passing judgement but trying to point out that technically it is possible to "keep at bay" something for years/decades. Whether or not this is actually happening does not mean it is impossible. So negating Israel's claim merely based on a passage of time is very weak.
israel said iran bombed hospitals.
did not mention that israel bombed many hospitals in gaza which is near iran who is sick and tired along with the rest of the world except for america and TRUMP and stupid americans who justify every slaughtered child in gaza.
20 Jun 2025 11:36 am
Implying that the long passing of the timeframes stated by the accuser, doesn't mean the crime isn't happening anyway, is weaker still.DeezerShoove » 19 Jun 2025, 2:21 pm » wrote: ↑ Not passing judgement but trying to point out that technically it is possible to "keep at bay" something for years/decades. Whether or not this is actually happening does not mean it is impossible. So negating Israel's claim merely based on a passage of time is very weak.
No, I'm not raking through history to 'provide links'. If you can't directly dispute a point, then question your own links.
20 Jun 2025 11:48 am
What war are you talking about, 'tard?Mrkelly » 18 Jun 2025, 4:10 pm » wrote: ↑ The smaller government, no wars , less government spending MAGA s
are getting **** on
and this is the best that you can come up with ?
We aren't in any wars, you dumb ****.
20 Jun 2025 11:51 am
You don't know the difference?jerrab » 20 Jun 2025, 11:29 am » wrote: ↑ israel said iran bombed hospitals.
did not mention that israel bombed many hospitals in gaza which is near iran who is sick and tired along with the rest of the world except for america and TRUMP and stupid americans who justify every slaughtered child in gaza.
Hamas set up shop and hid among their human shields, Israel does no such thing.....are you really this stupid?
20 Jun 2025 11:56 am
WTF is he talking about?RebelGator » 20 Jun 2025, 11:48 am » wrote: ↑ What war are you talking about, 'tard?
We aren't in any wars, you dumb ****.
So, let's recap the Ignorance here...shall we.
BV posted...Only the zealously stupid, like zeet and a few other local dim lights, believe that 1.87 has any meaning beyond the symbolic. Supply/Demand stooges who believe POTUS can control oil prices.........
Then he posted....Grifty was the entire reason gas went to 4.50 this year.
BV posted...Only the zealously stupid, like zeet and a few other local dim lights, believe that 1.87 has any meaning beyond the symbolic. Supply/Demand stooges who believe POTUS can control oil prices.........
Then he posted....Grifty was the entire reason gas went to 4.50 this year.
20 Jun 2025 12:00 pm
Once in a while, you have to slap some sense into his head.
20 Jun 2025 12:21 pm
20 Jun 2025 12:24 pm
Oh, so you don't believe the IAEA?:JustinSane » 20 Jun 2025, 11:19 am » wrote: ↑ Not according to US intelligence agencies. So how do we 'KNOW' ?
So a smart fellow like you wants to wait until they decide to use them before you want to take action?Iran has amassed even more near weapons-grade uranium, UN watchdog says
The report comes at a sensitive time, as President Donald Trump seeks to reach a deal with Tehran to limit its nuclear program.
By The Associated Press 05/31/2025
Iran has further increased its stockpile of uranium enriched to near weapons-grade levels, a confidential report by the U.N. nuclear watchdog said Saturday. In a separate report, the agency called on Tehran to urgently change course and comply with its years-long probe.The report comes at a sensitive time, as the administration of U.S. President Donald Trump seeks to reach a deal with Tehran to limit its nuclear program. The two sides have held several rounds of talks, so far without agreement. The report by the Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency — which was seen by The Associated Press — says that as of May 17, Iran has amassed 408.6 kilograms (900.8 pounds) of uranium enriched up to 60%.That’s an increase of 133.8 kilograms (294.9 pounds) — or almost 50% — since the IAEA’s last report in February. The 60% enriched material is a short, technical step away from weapons-grade levels of 90%. A report in February put this stockpile level at 274.8 kilograms (605.8 pounds).
And those US intelligence agencies stated almost a year ago that Iran now has enough fissile material to make more than a dozen bombs.
20 Jun 2025 12:43 pm
Forget what I wrote, apologies - you may have a point...Zeets2 » 20 Jun 2025, 12:24 pm » wrote: ↑ Oh, so you don't believe the IAEA?:
So a smart fellow like you wants to wait until they decide to use them before you want to take action?
No, I'm not raking through history to 'provide links'. If you can't directly dispute a point, then question your own links.
20 Jun 2025 12:58 pm
Happy to! But why you're unable to find these facts yourself is beyond me.JustinSane » 20 Jun 2025, 12:43 pm » wrote: ↑ I haven't stated what I believe or don't believe. But if you wish to quote the IAEA then that gets my full support. Please post. I'm not happy with AP, as they've stated 90% enrichment is a short hop from 60%... no it bloody well isn't - so what else are they misrepresenting?
Took me all of about 10 seconds:
There you have it.Iran secretly enriching enough uranium for nine nuclear weapons, IAEA report says"Despite countless warnings by the international community, Iran is totally determined to complete its nuclear weapons program," the PMO said
By REUTERS, MAY 31, 2025
Iran said that a report by the UN nuclear watchdog on Saturday is "politically motivated and repeats baseless accusations", state media reported.
Iran said it will "implement appropriate measures" in response to any effort to take action against Tehran at the IAEA governors' meeting.
It also spelled out that Iran's cooperation with IAEA continues to be "less than satisfactory" in "a number of respects." The IAEA is still seeking explanations for uranium traces found years ago at two of four sites it has been investigating. Three hosted secret experiments, it found.
The IAEA has concluded that "these three locations, and other possible related locations, were part of an undeclared structured nuclear program carried out by Iran until the early 2000s and that some activities used undeclared nuclear material," the report said.
"The Agency concludes that Iran did not declare nuclear material and nuclear-related activities at three undeclared locations in Iran, specifically, Lavisan-Shian, Varamin, and Turquzabad," the report said.
At Lavisan-Shian in Tehran, a disc made of uranium metal was "used in the production of explosively-driven neutron sources" at least twice in 2003, a process designed to initiate the explosion in a nuclear weapon, the report said, adding that it was part of "small-scale" tests.
More immediately, it is likely to lead to Iran again accelerating or expanding its rapidly advancing nuclear program, as it has done after previous rebukes at the board. It could also further complicate talks with the United States aimed at reining in that program.
Secret uranium stock enrichment continues
A separate IAEA report sent to member states on Saturday said Iran's stock of uranium enriched to up to 60% purity, close to the roughly 90% of weapons grade, had grown by roughly half to 408.6 kg. That is enough, if enriched further, for nine nuclear weapons, according to an IAEA yardstick.
Both IAEA reports said enrichment to such a high level was "of serious concern" since it is the only country to do so without producing nuclear weapons.
The Prime Minister’s Office (PMO) called the IAEA report on Iran’s nuclear program grave and clear, saying it proves Iran is fully committed to developing nuclear weapons.
The PMO stressed that Iran is violating the Non-Proliferation Treaty and blocking IAEA inspections. It urged the international community to act now to stop Iran’s nuclear progress.
"The IAEA has reported a grave and unequivocal report on Iran’s nuclear program. The agency presents a stark picture that serves as a clear warning sign. Despite countless warnings by the international community, Iran is totally determined to complete its nuclear weapons program," the PMO began.
20 Jun 2025 1:02 pm
Yes.. I've got it.. thank youZeets2 » 20 Jun 2025, 12:58 pm » wrote: ↑ Happy to! But why you're unable to find these facts yourself is beyond me.
Took me all of about 10 seconds:
There you have it.
No, I'm not raking through history to 'provide links'. If you can't directly dispute a point, then question your own links.
20 Jun 2025 1:46 pm
As was my point. You wouldn't have had one without it being a gift. So I was 99% accurate. My instincts are on average 94% accurate and that 6% is I am human enough to believe people will change their socially nurtured minds.Justin Sane » 20 Jun 2025, 11:20 am » wrote: ↑ You're 50% correct. I actually do have one, but received it as a Christmas present. The point wasn't meant to be taken quite so literally
Haven't ran across any, yet even within my own ancestry. Everyone wants to believe life isn't self evident time simply equally adapting as displaced since arriving a fertilized cell.
the world is but a stage for people defending their nurtured character after birth.
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