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DeezerShoove » 19 Jul 2025, 6:26 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jul 2025, 6:26 pm

Now there YouTube videos to speed things up.

I tiled my bathroom in record time because of YT videos.

Cannonpointer » 19 Jul 2025, 6:55 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jul 2025, 6:55 pm

     

I guess we can expect that cyancah vaccine any minute now...

Please seat yourself.



I like the very things you hate.

Cannonpointer » 19 Jul 2025, 3:13 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jul 2025, 3:13 pm

This is what science looks like when it gets busy having all the credibility and integrity, sonny:

The time from the identification of the novel COVID-19 virus to the first vaccine injected into a human was remarkably short:

Timeline:

• December 31, 2019: China reported a cluster of pneumonia cases in Wuhan to the WHO.
• January 7, 2020: Chinese scientists identified the novel coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2).
• January 10–11, 2020: The virus’s full genetic sequence was published online.
• January 13, 2020: Moderna finalized the design of its mRNA vaccine (mRNA-1273).
• February 24, 2020: Moderna shipped its first vaccine batch to the NIH for clinical trials.
• March 16, 2020: The first human received an injection of a COVID-19 vaccine (Moderna’s mRNA-1273) in a Phase 1 trial in Seattle.

⏱ Total Time:~66 days (Just over 2 months)
—from virus identification (Jan 7) to first injection (Mar 16, 2020).

JohnnyYou » 20 Jul 2025, 1:55 am » wrote: ↑

20 Jul 2025, 1:55 am

This AI shyt is gonna turn the rabbit turds into worm holes.

AI Overview
The first COVID-19 vaccines were authorized for emergency use in December 2020. While development of mRNA vaccines had been ongoing for years prior to the pandemic, the urgent need for a COVID-19 vaccine accelerated the process, leading to rapid authorization and rollout. The FDA approved the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine in 2021, marking the first full approval of a COVID-19 vaccine. 
Here's a more detailed timeline:
2021:
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The FDA approved the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine for individuals 16 and older. 
2022:
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The FDA approved the Moderna vaccine, now called Spikevax, for individuals 18 and older. 
Early 2020:
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Scientists began focusing on developing a vaccine for COVID-19, building on existing research on mRNA technology. 
December 2020:
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The first COVID-19 vaccines, including those from Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna, were authorized for emergency use. 

Cannonpointer » 20 Jul 2025, 2:03 am » wrote: ↑

20 Jul 2025, 2:03 am

Your AI **** is just spam, dumb ***. ANYONE can generate spam. But not anyone can understand and respond to issues logically. You, for example, require a crutch and the spam that crutch produces. You've said nothing. You've spammed the board with meaningless facts connected to zero argument. 

Anyone can get AI to find anything - it's a servant. What you cannot do is explain how a novel corona virus can have a vaccine ready for human trials in 66 days while cancer and HIV are still without vaccines. Merely spamming dates doesn't speak to the issues raised - so the question becomes, why did you randomly select MY post, and hit reply, if you had no answer to my post, you **** idiot?

Cannonpointer » 19 Jul 2025, 3:11 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jul 2025, 3:11 pm

Here is what science says is good for Americans but bad for Europeans:

Carcinogenic or Banned Elsewhere – U.S.-Approved Additives (Names Only)
Potassium bromate
Brominated vegetable oil (BVO)
Butylated hydroxyanisole (BHA)
Butylated hydroxytoluene (BHT)
Titanium dioxide
Azodicarbonamide
Ractopamine
Mineral oil hydrocarbons (MOAH/MOSH)
Erythrosine (Red Dye No. 3)
Propylparaben
Nitrates (e.g., sodium nitrate)
Nitrites (e.g., sodium nitrite)
Artificial food dyes (general class, especially Red 40, Yellow 5, Yellow 6)
Olestra
Propyl gallate
Acrylamide (formed in processed foods like fries, chips)
Sodium benzoate (when combined with ascorbic acid)
Formaldehyde (trace use in food packaging and processing)
PFAS (used in grease-proof food packaging; now under scrutiny)
Polyethylene glycol (in some processed foods and medications)
Calcium propionate
Blue 1 and Blue 2
Yellow 5 (Tartrazine)
Yellow 6 (Sunset Yellow)
Red 40 (Allura Red)
Sodium aluminum phosphate
Sodium aluminum sulfate
MSG (monosodium glutamate) — banned or restricted in some countries
Carrageenan — banned in infant formula in Europe, allowed in U.S.
TBHQ (tertiary butylhydroquinone)

Cannonpointer » 19 Jul 2025, 2:43 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jul 2025, 2:43 pm

Okay, now do the math. Tell us agian how HUMANS have outdone the super volcanos of the Palaeocene-Oecene Thermal Maximum, when ONE QUADRILLION METRIC TONS of atmospherice C02  were introduced. Or the Cambrian Period, when C02 was ten times higher than today (and YET, life is known to have "exploded"); or the Devonian Period, when concentrations were five times higher - and in response to these alarming levels of C02, life decided to leave the oceans and colonize the land. 

I wonder whether you can just give us a time in the history of history when science has not been a whore. Can ya do that?

Because I can tell you science was whore for big tobacco. And I can tell you it was a whore during the Tuskeegee Experiment. And I can tell you it was a whore during colonial times in america on behalf of big tea. Did you know that the colonists were prohibited from consuming coffee, as science knew coffee to make their "sons indolent and their daughters licentious"? Yeah - your boys will go queer and your daughter will be sluts if they drink coffee - on which the Dutch had a monopoly. Better they should drink the tea on which the British East India Company had the lock. Mind you, the science had it backwards in Holland. 

RIGHT NOW TODAY, as we speak, in the world we inhabit, big pharma buys off government to get new vaccines on the list of "required" vaccinations. As a result, infants have become pin cushions. Big Pharma has absorbed the entire medical establishment, turning doctors into uneducated pill pushers whose products are designed to cause addiction and the need of other products to ameliorate the harms the original products cause. Big pharma IS big science, and it is corrupted by the profit motive. The FDA lies to us constantly about the science regarding synthetic fertilzers and synthetic insecticides and synthetic herbicides, RDA's, the food pyramid, etc. Many Vitamin D deficient Americans (42% are critically deficient) are terrified to supplement as the FDA has warned them away from Vitamin D for fear of overdosing. 

One of the most obvious proofs of the corruption of science happened right in front of your eyes, when a medical establishment that has been unable to provide a vaccination for Cancer and HIV, which have been around for many decades, was suddenly able to spontaneously create THREE DOZEN different vaccine patents inside of a year for a completely novel corona virus. No time to study it - it was just on us and then three dozen vaccines were suddenly avaialble. 

And ya wanna know who is an even bigger whore, historically, than science? Journalism. And when you get your corrupted science from even more corrupted journalists, the only POSSIBLE result is going to be **** mouth. Pure **** mouth.

Deezer Shoove » 19 Jul 2025, 6:26 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Jul 2025, 6:26 pm

Now there YouTube videos to speed things up.

I tiled my bathroom in record time because of YT videos.
 

*31stArrival » 20 Jul 2025, 6:02 am » wrote: ↑

20 Jul 2025, 6:02 am

Was that the first recorded time you tiled your own bathroom since birth? Re-cord or rec-ord time?

Please seat yourself.



I like the very things you hate.

Deezer Shoove » 20 Jul 2025, 7:21 am » wrote: ↑

20 Jul 2025, 7:21 am

I tile a bathroom about 11 times a month.
My best time was after I watched 28 YouTube videos.

I use a burning candle as a timepiece.

JohnnyYou » 20 Jul 2025, 2:11 am » wrote: ↑

20 Jul 2025, 2:11 am

The study of biology did not begin in 2020.   The Golden Age of Stuidity in America is dawning in the Age of Trumpfarious.. He is killiing any rational thought.  The Heritage Foundatiion hates smart people.

JohnnyYou » 20 Jul 2025, 2:11 am » wrote: ↑

20 Jul 2025, 2:11 am

The concept of a pandemic was not created in 2020. Obama had made a task force to plan for it.  Trumpwhackoputz killed it.  Then he suggested there was some kind of midnight special that could shine a light up our butts.

JohnnyYou » 20 Jul 2025, 2:11 am » wrote: ↑

20 Jul 2025, 2:11 am

I am not going to attack your talking points. You bring good data to the matta..  If I have information you may be in error I will share it. Do with it as you will. I understand the gut reaction to kill the messenger.

JohnnyYou » 20 Jul 2025, 2:27 am » wrote: ↑

20 Jul 2025, 2:27 am

I am not randomly responding..  You were #1 on my notfs this morning.

JohnnyYou » 20 Jul 2025, 2:27 am » wrote: ↑

20 Jul 2025, 2:27 am

The stupid toothless red hats think Trump is good for America.  He is certainly bad for relations with Europeans.

JohnnyYou » 20 Jul 2025, 2:27 am » wrote: ↑

20 Jul 2025, 2:27 am

Am I going to argue that corporations have our health in their best interest?  I think almost everyone can agree their greed for money and capitalism in general can lead to poor outcomes.  And Joe was a Senator from Delaware., The World Capitol of Corporations. Biden said he cared about the working person but I am sure he was just as deep into evil oligarchal cabal as anyone else in our leadership. The Fixx is totally bipartisan and exceeds our borders and phooked up political system.

Kudos to the Europeans for recgnizing the dangers of some substances and taking action to regulate their use.

JohnnyYou » 20 Jul 2025, 2:33 am » wrote: ↑

20 Jul 2025, 2:33 am

How many humans were impacted by the  super volcanos of the Palaeocene-Oecene Thermal Maximum, when ONE QUADRILLION METRIC TONS of atmospherice C02  were introduced?

Beyond Math,  Were your ancestors there?

C'mon man..

And Tobacco was the heartbeat of America in the 1700's  The Europeans couldn't get enough.

AI Overview
The Earth's mass is approximately 5.9722 × 10^24 kg. This is equivalent to about 13.1 septillion pounds (13.1 E24). Scientists use the  no spam  to determine Earth's mass, using its radius as the distance. ..    I hope that is a lot more than  ONE QUADRILLION METRIC TONS 2.2 E18 lbs..

Yeah you're ok...

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One quadrillion in exponential form is 10^15

Cannonpointer » 20 Jul 2025, 11:52 am » wrote: ↑

20 Jul 2025, 11:52 am

I will assume the blame for not having a clue what the **** you are on about. 

Explain the point you believe you made with these randomly generated AI factoids as if to a child.

Cannonpointer » 20 Jul 2025, 11:49 am » wrote: ↑

20 Jul 2025, 11:49 am

If you do not address the issue to which you are purportedly responding, it looks pretty **** random to the casual observer.

Trump is good for America in the way that chemo is good for cancer patients: A bad poison that you HOPE - but cannot be sure - will do more harm to the cancer than to the host.

Obama destroyed Europe when he overthrew the government of Coupkraine and set the current Euro-raping into motion. The PLAN was to suck Russia's blood. But Russia is stronger than those conspiring against it thought, as history continues to repeat repeat repeat itself. So there is no food for the United States and its European vassals. The Count's Plan B when the maiden is unavailable is Renfield, the count's vassal. Not as satisfying, but Dracula must be sustained. A weakened Renfield is just something the Count has to live with.

Oh, that is likely to end soon due to trade compacts. Many of the deals being floated - like the CPTPP that the EU is investigating getting into - subvert the sovereignty of the EU's member nations. Trade boards - not governments - will decide the quality of the peoples' food. But for now, I will continue buying my flour from Italy, as it is not YET poisoned.

People who believe they are "gluten intolerant" or "allergic to gluten" are being gaslighted. They are POISONED WHEAT intolerant.

Cannonpointer » 20 Jul 2025, 11:35 am » wrote: ↑

20 Jul 2025, 11:35 am

Look, I'm not going to dispute a word of that. But I WILL advise that poster who wish to call others stupid should endeavor to avoid misspelling stupid or any derivation of stupid. Otherwise, THEY look stupid. Or, "stuid" if you prefer.

Obama's task force to unleash a pandemic worked like a charm, son.

That just shows your weakness with science and math, son. I made specific claims about the carbon released during the POTM - a quadrillion tons. What you SHOULD have done is looked up the POTM, seen how many years it lasted, divided that many years into the 1 quadrillion metric tons dumped, found the annual release of the POTM, and compared it to the purported annual release today. Learn to math, you mother ****. I don't want to argue with a goddamned pillow.

JohnnyYou » 20 Jul 2025, 5:34 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jul 2025, 5:34 pm

I was wondering if the entire planet weighed more than ONE HUNDRED MILLION GIGATONS.  It doesn't

Cannonpointer » 20 Jul 2025, 6:08 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jul 2025, 6:08 pm

No one knows what the planet weighs. There are well reassoned theories - same as there were for demons causing illness. Which still COULD be the case.

JohnnyYou » 20 Jul 2025, 5:52 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jul 2025, 5:52 pm

Sole's new girlfriend can win any spelling bee.   Me .. not so mucho.   But she didn't have a clue what you were asking me to do either...

I can read.. maybe not so much as you the giant book worm.

During the Permian-Triassic extinction event, also known as the Great Dying, massive volcanic eruptions from the Siberian Traps released huge quantities of greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide (CO2). The amount of carbon released during this period is estimated to be around 21 trillion metric tons, roughly 30 times more than the cumulative carbon released between 1750 and 2020. This led to a significant increase in atmospheric CO2, from around 400 parts per million (ppm) to 2,500 ppm. Atmospheric CO2 levels were elevated for millions of years after the extinction event. 
The duration of the Permian-Triassic extinction event is debated, with estimates ranging from 20,000 years to several million years. However, a detailed timeline reveals that the main extinction pulse, which caused significant biodiversity loss, occurred over a much shorter period, perhaps around 61,000 years, according to a study involving U-Pb zircon dating of volcanic ash beds from the Global Stratotype Section and Point for the Permian-Triassic boundary at Meishan, China. 
Assuming the 21 trillion metric tons of carbon were released over a 61,000-year period, the average annual release would be approximately 344 million metric tons of carbon per year. This figure is significantly lower than the annual carbon release rates of today, which are roughly 10 billion metric tons of carbon per year (or 10 gigatons). It is important to note, however, that these are estimations based on limited data from a geological event that occurred 250 million years ago, and there is inherent uncertainty in pinpointing precise timeframes and emission rates.

JohnnyYou » 20 Jul 2025, 6:11 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jul 2025, 6:11 pm

I think you are failing to see the gravity of the situation.

JohnnyYou » 20 Jul 2025, 6:11 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Jul 2025, 6:11 pm

I ain't one of those believers that deep space is a deep fake. As smart as either one of us think we are, we are infants on the path to enlightenment. The learning curve is steeper than the slope of the increase of CO2 in the atmosphere.  And MAGA wants to abandon education and leave it to bible thumpers who dream of the beaver jeanie all day long.