Wonder how many MILLIONS will Trump SUE AOC over THIS?

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By *Beekeeper
13 Jul 2025 6:42 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Cannonpointer » 20 Jul 2025, 12:17 pm » wrote: No, no. No list - never was a list.

Epstein kept his blackmail victims in his head. For THEIR safety and security. The man had principles. 

But there ARE tapes. And the people who are on those tapes have names. 

If Pam Bondi wrote those names down on a piece of paper, THEN there would be a list.
That's a good point. Now, why not just show the tapes? 
So, let's recap the Ignorance here...shall we.

BV posted...Only the zealously stupid, like zeet and a few other local dim lights, believe that 1.87 has any meaning beyond the symbolic. Supply/Demand stooges who believe POTUS can control oil prices.........

Then he posted....Grifty was the entire reason gas went to 4.50 this year. :lol:
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Cannonpointer » 20 Jul 2025, 12:20 pm » wrote: It's time for an update, Sparky.

How many millions did it turn out to be?
Can we work one at a time here? CBS has paid, and now we are working on Murdoch. The **** will get her time.
 
So, let's recap the Ignorance here...shall we.

BV posted...Only the zealously stupid, like zeet and a few other local dim lights, believe that 1.87 has any meaning beyond the symbolic. Supply/Demand stooges who believe POTUS can control oil prices.........

Then he posted....Grifty was the entire reason gas went to 4.50 this year. :lol:
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MR-7 » 20 Jul 2025, 12:24 pm » wrote: Can we work one at a time here? CBS has paid, and now we are working on Murdoch. The **** will get her time.
Yeah, see, here's the thing. Trump is gonna take it, and Trump is gonna like it. 

AOC gave her opinion. She has a right to that. I can call you a ***, and you can call me a republican, and yes - we have both been deeply insulted. But there has been no defamation. 

AOC suggested that Trump is a rapist. 

Trump is a public figure, so to collect against AOC he would have to prove three things:

1. It's a lie; and 
2. She KNOWS it's a lie; and
3. It hurt his reputation.

To prove that third thing, he would have to get past the fact that those who like him hate her and would never take her word, and those who like her ALREADY consider him the devil incarnate. IOW, he would have to sustain the assertion that she has credibility with middle America, and that BECAUSE OF HER UTTERANCE, people who did not think him a rapist now do think him a rapist. That is what he would have to convince a jury of: that she changed hearts and minds about Trump. 

To prove that second thing, he would have to convince a jury that there is no evidence whatsoever that he is the sort of fellow who might commit a rape, such that AOC could be speaking her truth in good faith. He would have to argue successfully that AOC made this **** up out of whole cloth. 

But he has ALREADY sued a major news channel on the theory that they convinced dummies that he was a rapist. And he is on record calling AOC a dummy. So the fault - by Trump's own legal filings - lies with ABC and Stephanopolopolopolis. 

If AOC says, "I believe what I said, I stand by what I said, and here is why..." and then she shows that more than 20 women have accused him of rape over the years and he has admitted grabbing women he does not even know by the ****** and tongue-kissing them without permission, it's not very likely that a jury is going to come back and say, "She just made that **** up, out of malice, with zero evidence to back the opinion." This is especially true if Trump performs up to his usual standard in Discovery - which is de rigueur in tort trials. He WILL have to sit for discovery.

As I said: The **** is going to keep on saying what she wants about Trump, and Trump is going to walk it off and give Coach 110% next time. 

Now, that's it. I have spoken. 
 
 
 
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Cannonpointer » 20 Jul 2025, 11:22 am » wrote: It appears I knew what he WASN'T going to do. 

Just over here in I toldyasovania, laying in the sun. 

I have painted six pack abs onto myself with SPF 100, and am tanning my way to a gym bod. Image

Ok BV!

Just kidding.
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Cannonpointer » 20 Jul 2025, 12:18 pm » wrote: You could bowl me over with a feather. 

Who'd have thought that Burnt-Orange might be Discovery-shy?
It's not Discovery...

Truth is an absolute defense.


 
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Cannonpointer » 20 Jul 2025, 12:45 pm » wrote: AOC gave her opinion. 
Yes, and so have you. I just want to say Thanks.   :rolleyes:  
So, let's recap the Ignorance here...shall we.

BV posted...Only the zealously stupid, like zeet and a few other local dim lights, believe that 1.87 has any meaning beyond the symbolic. Supply/Demand stooges who believe POTUS can control oil prices.........

Then he posted....Grifty was the entire reason gas went to 4.50 this year. :lol:
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*Huey » 20 Jul 2025, 1:29 pm » wrote: Ok BV!

Just kidding.
The sun is still shining on me - improving my abs as we speak. 

You are in the shade, still waiting for a law suit that will never come. :)
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

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Cannonpointer » 20 Jul 2025, 1:36 pm » wrote: The sun is still shining on me - improving my abs as we speak. 

You are in the shade, still waiting for a law suit that will never come. Image

Inever said he was gonna sue her.  My guess is he won’t because she has no money.  Waste of time.  That is why I said what I did earlier.
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Blackvegetable » 20 Jul 2025, 1:33 pm » wrote: It's not Discovery...

Truth is an absolute defense.
Yes, truth is an absolute defense. But it is also a higher bar than AOC needs to meet in order to defend against defamation. 

She need only demonstate that a reasonable person could come to that conclusion. And here's the thing: 

A reasonable person could come to that conclusion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhsSzIS84ks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E4GnMcSycU
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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*Huey » 20 Jul 2025, 1:40 pm » wrote: Inever said he was gonna sue her.  My guess is he won’t because she has no money.  Waste of time.  That is why I said what I did earlier.
@Cannonpointer  Let us all know when and where he said it.
 
So, let's recap the Ignorance here...shall we.

BV posted...Only the zealously stupid, like zeet and a few other local dim lights, believe that 1.87 has any meaning beyond the symbolic. Supply/Demand stooges who believe POTUS can control oil prices.........

Then he posted....Grifty was the entire reason gas went to 4.50 this year. :lol:
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MR-7 » 20 Jul 2025, 1:35 pm » wrote: Yes, and so have you. I just want to say Thanks.   Image
Gratitude is a virtue. You're welcome. 
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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*Huey » 20 Jul 2025, 1:40 pm » wrote: Inever said he was gonna sue her.  My guess is he won’t because she has no money.  Waste of time.  That is why I said what I did earlier.
Yeah, well, you're right for the wrong reason.

He won't sue her because her legal team would mop the floor with him.
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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Cannonpointer » 20 Jul 2025, 1:48 pm » wrote: Yes, truth is an absolute defense. But it is also a higher bar than AOC needs to meet in order to defend against defamation. 

She need only demonstate that a reasonable person could come to that conclusion. And here's the thing: 

A reasonable person could come to that conclusion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhsSzIS84ks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E4GnMcSycU
Neither that nor his deposition would be subject to Discovery...

They are public record..
 
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Cannonpointer » 20 Jul 2025, 1:48 pm » wrote: Yes, truth is an absolute defense. But it is also a higher bar than AOC needs to meet in order to defend against defamation. 

She need only demonstate that a reasonable person could come to that conclusion. And here's the thing: 

A reasonable person could come to that conclusion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhsSzIS84ks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E4GnMcSycU
So, this makes the 12 jurors in TRUMP's bogus case unreasonable. 
 
So, let's recap the Ignorance here...shall we.

BV posted...Only the zealously stupid, like zeet and a few other local dim lights, believe that 1.87 has any meaning beyond the symbolic. Supply/Demand stooges who believe POTUS can control oil prices.........

Then he posted....Grifty was the entire reason gas went to 4.50 this year. :lol:
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MR-7 » 20 Jul 2025, 1:48 pm » wrote: @Cannonpointer  Let us all know when and where he said it.
He never said ****.

It's the ignorant monkey chorus that I am responding to. 

Have you read the OP?

In most threads where I post, my first order of business is not answering Donald Trump, but answering the OP. 

I call it threadtegrity. 
 
 
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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Cannonpointer » 20 Jul 2025, 2:02 pm » wrote: He never said ****.

It's the ingorant monkey chorus that I am responding to. 

Have you read the OP?

In most threads where I post, my first order of business is not answering Donald Trump, but answering the OP. 

I call it threadtegrity.
So, you lied. Right?
 
So, let's recap the Ignorance here...shall we.

BV posted...Only the zealously stupid, like zeet and a few other local dim lights, believe that 1.87 has any meaning beyond the symbolic. Supply/Demand stooges who believe POTUS can control oil prices.........

Then he posted....Grifty was the entire reason gas went to 4.50 this year. :lol:
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Blackvegetable » 20 Jul 2025, 1:57 pm » wrote: Neither that nor his deposition would be subject to Discovery...

They are public record..
Yeah, I was thinking deposition and writing discovery. 

She could demand a look down his pants, but there wouldn't be much for her to discover. 

An orange merkin and a mini-gherkin. 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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Cannonpointer » 20 Jul 2025, 2:05 pm » wrote: Yeah, I was thinking deposition and writing discovery. 

She could demand a look down his pants, but there wouldn't be much for her to discover. 

An orange merkin and a mini-gherkin.
Unless they are elements of your wardrobe, how would you know about "merkins"?
 
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MR-7 » 20 Jul 2025, 1:59 pm » wrote: So, this makes the 12 jurors in TRUMP's bogus case unreasonable. 
It does? I don't think you do logic very well.

What a private person can be justified for believing about a fellow has nothing to do with what a jury was able to get agreement on For all we know, they were one person short of adding rape to the conviction. If you REALLY want to make the argument that Trump is ONLY convicted of being a sexual abuser and not an outright rapist, run with that.

Me, I dismiss the entire thing as a kangaroo court from soup to nuts - but you run with he's only a sex pest, not a rapist.

Do you, son.  :LOL:  

Oh, and by the way - he's a **** sex pest. Now, go get your shine box.  :ninja:  
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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That **** AOC is gonna get it real good. TRUMP always wins.
So, let's recap the Ignorance here...shall we.

BV posted...Only the zealously stupid, like zeet and a few other local dim lights, believe that 1.87 has any meaning beyond the symbolic. Supply/Demand stooges who believe POTUS can control oil prices.........

Then he posted....Grifty was the entire reason gas went to 4.50 this year. :lol:
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