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Is the fed, Jerome Powel just a Trump hater and punishing the American people?

PhiloBeddo » 24 Jul 2025, 12:35 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2025, 12:35 pm

Is the fed, Jerome Powel just a Trump hater and punishing the American people?

No historically interest rates were 4/5 percent as they are now.

Back in the 1980s interest was raised double digits to snuff out the runaway inflation of the 1970s causing the Farm Crisis and the recession of 1981/1982 eventually stabilizing and going down back to 5/6 percent by end of decade.

Anyways the economy is used 4/5 points again and lowering would cause more inflation.

Remember this last one still came in at 2.7 percent well above 2 percent target rate
 

TwoIfByTea » 25 Jul 2025, 9:28 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2025, 9:28 pm

No historically interest rates were 4/5 percent as they are now.

Back in the 1980s interest was raised double digits to snuff out the runaway inflation of the 1970s causing the Farm Crisis and the recession of 1981/1982 eventually stabilizing and going down back to 5/6 percent by end of decade.

Anyways the economy is used 4/5 points again and lowering would cause more inflation.

Remember this last one still came in at 2.7 percent well above 2 percent target rate

Borrowing rates not investment rates. The cost of money should be 1 or 2 percent, not 4
 

TwoIfByTea » 25 Jul 2025, 9:28 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2025, 9:28 pm

No historically interest rates were 4/5 percent as they are now.

Back in the 1980s interest was raised double digits to snuff out the runaway inflation of the 1970s causing the Farm Crisis and the recession of 1981/1982 eventually stabilizing and going down back to 5/6 percent by end of decade.

Anyways the economy is used 4/5 points again and lowering would cause more inflation.

Remember this last one still came in at 2.7 percent well above 2 percent target rate

If Powell would drop the rates 2% for 6 months... Trump would re-finance 10 Trillion $$$ of debt, and save America at 100's of Billions of $$$ in interest costs... I guess Powell doesn't see that?  ...OR, doesn't WANT to see that !

PhiloBeddo » 24 Jul 2025, 12:35 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2025, 12:35 pm

Is the fed, Jerome Powel just a Trump hater and punishing the American people?

What is the history of inflation in the US in the last 18 months?
Inflation in the United States has seen a decline from its peak in June 2022 at 9.1%, steadily decreasing throughout 2023. This easing of inflationary pressures has been attributed to a combination of factors, including weakening demand for goods, slowing shelter costs, and softer food and energy markets. However, the path back to the Federal Reserve's target inflation rate of 2% has been somewhat bumpy. The Federal Reserve has been actively using monetary policy tools, such as increasing interest rates, to combat inflation and steer it towards the target. 
During the 18-month period from January 2024 to June 2025, inflation has fluctuated. Inflation dropped to 2.9% in July 2024, the lowest since March 2021, with used car prices returning to normal levels. However, costs like rent, childcare, and electricity continued to increase at around 5%. Inflation was a significant concern for voters in the November 2024 U.S. Presidential election. In February 2025, the consumer inflation rate was 2.8% year-over-year, still above the Fed's 2% target, with projections for it to rise due to new tariffs. By April 2025, annual inflation slowed to 2.3%, but the full impact of tariffs was not yet reflected. In June 2025, the annual inflation rate reached 2.7%, increasing for the second consecutive month and representing the highest level since February, linked to businesses passing on higher import costs, particularly in certain goods categories. Core inflation, excluding food and energy, increased to 2.9% in June. The June CPI report showed the all items index rose 0.3% in June (seasonally adjusted) and 2.7% over the last 12 months (not seasonally adjusted). The index for all items less food and energy increased 0.2% in June (seasonally adjusted) and 2.9% over the past year (not seasonally adjusted). The history of inflation in the US over the last 18 months shows a general trend of disinflation after the mid-2022 peak, with recent upticks in mid-2025 influenced by factors like tariffs

PhiloBeddo » 24 Jul 2025, 12:35 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2025, 12:35 pm

Is the fed, Jerome Powel just a Trump hater and punishing the American people?

Your stupidity is not cherished.

But, The Federal Reserve was designed by the rich for the rich.

I too want lower interest rates so people can borrow money to build systems. Our foreign customers  may not buy from us with our quotes jacked up by tariffs. We are going to lose all our global customers. Canada is a very important one for our small town.
 
 
 

Two If By Tea » 25 Jul 2025, 9:28 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Jul 2025, 9:28 pm

No historically interest rates were 4/5 percent as they are now.

Back in the 1980s interest was raised double digits to snuff out the runaway inflation of the 1970s causing the Farm Crisis and the recession of 1981/1982 eventually stabilizing and going down back to 5/6 percent by end of decade.

Anyways the economy is used 4/5 points again and lowering would cause more inflation.

Remember this last one still came in at 2.7 percent well above 2 percent target rate
 

Do you understand how planned obsolescence works 24/7? I discovered its ugly means by any methods created in civilization of people wishing life wasn't self evident time living genetically eternally separated adapting to the moment as life so far now.

What are interest rates on credit cards?
What are the sales taxes in every society?
What changes in compounding rates between loaner and borrower, people saving their left over income interest rates earned compared to taxes paid?

Economic outcomes has nothing to do with understanding incoming life changing population left alive daily here. It has everything to do with keeping ancestries believing life isn't self evident time being alive as eternally separated by personal hearts beating in series parallel time displaced since conceived.

Not annual day of birth separated 365.2422 days a revolution the planet perpetually balancing last 5 billion revolutions around the same star.

ConservativeWave » 26 Jul 2025, 7:54 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Jul 2025, 7:54 pm

If Powell would drop the rates 2% for 6 months... Trump would re-finance 10 Trillion $$$ of debt, and save America at 100's of Billions of $$$ in interest costs... I guess Powell doesn't see that?  ...OR, doesn't WANT to see that !

Lowering interest rates is expanding the money supply if government really wants save money they need cut spending period then they dont have to issue as much debt.

DOGE team gave a fine blueprint and identified nearly 300 Billion but only 9 billion of Doge cuts were passed in Big Beautiful Bill.
 

JohnnyYou » 27 Jul 2025, 2:25 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 2:25 am

Your stupidity is not cherished.

But, The Federal Reserve was designed by the rich for the rich.

I too want lower interest rates so people can borrow money to build systems. Our foreign customers  may not buy from us with our quotes jacked up by tariffs. We are going to lose all our global customers. Canada is a very important one for our small town.

All lower interest rates do is feed speculation in markets and drive inflation higher.

Money was cheap and easy for too long and now the economy is addicted.

Unfortunately easy liquidity serves more to drive speculation in markets and malinvestment than productive enterprise


 

TwoIfByTea » 27 Jul 2025, 5:53 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 5:53 am

All lower interest rates do is feed speculation in markets and drive inflation higher.

Money was cheap and easy for too long and now the economy is addicted.

Unfortunately easy liquidity serves more to drive speculation in markets and malinvestment than productive enterprise

I have an associate who lived it for real in the 1980's in the S+L Financial Crisis.  Served time and everything.

PhiloBeddo » 24 Jul 2025, 12:35 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2025, 12:35 pm

Is the fed, Jerome Powel just a Trump hater and punishing the American people?

that was really deep, Phil.

You're a moron.

Blackvegetable » 27 Jul 2025, 6:11 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 6:11 am

PhiloBeddo » 24 Jul 2025, 12:35 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Jul 2025, 12:35 pm

Is the fed, Jerome Powel just a Trump hater and punishing the American people?

that was really deep, Phil.

You're a moron.

 

Which is worse?  A moron or the son of a beach evacuee afraid to address the OP?  ;)

That is rhetorical. 

*Huey » 27 Jul 2025, 9:50 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 9:50 am

Which is worse?  A moron or the son of a beach evacuee afraid to address the OP?  

That is rhetorical.

"Beach evacuee"?

Didn't you demand that tax payers compensate you for some mystery condition resulting from your employment as human ballast during peacetime, Cuckie?
 

Blackvegetable » 27 Jul 2025, 9:54 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 9:54 am

*Huey » 27 Jul 2025, 9:50 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 9:50 am

Which is worse?  A moron or the son of a beach evacuee afraid to address the OP?  

That is rhetorical.

"Beach evacuee"?

Didn't you demand that tax payers compensate you for some mystery condition resulting from your employment as human ballast during peacetime, Cuckie?
 

 

Start a thread with that exact post and we can discuss.  If you refuse you are a ******.  This is about are interest too high and you have yet to address the OP.

I think they can come down slightly.  

 

*Huey » 27 Jul 2025, 9:50 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 9:50 am

Which is worse?  A moron or the son of a beach evacuee afraid to address the OP?  

That is rhetorical.

Let's get back to the OP..

"This economy" and "too high" are very vague.

Can you elaborate on either?
 

Blackvegetable » 27 Jul 2025, 9:57 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 9:57 am

Let's get back to the OP..

"This economy" and "too high" are very vague.

Can you elaborate on either?

I made my comment.  Waiting on yours.  I see, like your normal ways, you are a ****** running from your words and are afraid to start a thread.

SO Back to OP.  Waiting on your stand.

*Huey » 27 Jul 2025, 9:56 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 9:56 am

Start a thread with that exact post and we can discuss. 

Are these your words on this thread?

Which is worse? A moron or the son of a beach evacuee afraid to address the OP? Image That is rhetorical.

*Huey » 27 Jul 2025, 9:58 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 9:58 am

I made my comment.  Waiting on yours.  I see, like your normal ways, you are a ****** running from your words and are afraid to start a thread.

SO Back to OP.  Waiting on your stand.

So, you DON'T want to discuss the OP.....or take a stand on the economy or interest rates.

Got it.
 

Blackvegetable » 27 Jul 2025, 9:59 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 9:59 am

*Huey » 27 Jul 2025, 9:58 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 9:58 am

I made my comment.  Waiting on yours.  I see, like your normal ways, you are a ****** running from your words and are afraid to start a thread.

SO Back to OP.  Waiting on your stand.

So, you DON'T want to discuss the OP.....or take a stand on the economy or interest rates.

Got it.
 

 

You can't read.

*Huey » 27 Jul 2025, 9:56 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 9:56 am

Blackvegetable » 27 Jul 2025, 9:54 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 9:54 am

*Huey » 27 Jul 2025, 9:50 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 9:50 am

Which is worse?  A moron or the son of a beach evacuee afraid to address the OP?  

That is rhetorical.

"Beach evacuee"?

Didn't you demand that tax payers compensate you for some mystery condition resulting from your employment as human ballast during peacetime, Cuckie?
 


 

Start a thread with that exact post and we can discuss.  If you refuse you are a ******.  This is about are interest too high and you have yet to address the OP.

I think they can come down slightly.  

 

 

Waiting on your stand.

*Huey » 27 Jul 2025, 10:02 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 10:02 am

You can't read.

Waiting on your stand.

OK.

To what should they come down, and why?