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Beautiful post…illustrates the retardation of “MAGA” and their ignorance of THIRD order consequences!!

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/2026- ... ars-report

User: Bacon’s Rebellion 

Remember Folks!

The Republicans cut $1T out of Medicaid in part by "kicking illegal aliens out of Medicaid"!...but, they didn’t kick them out of the country...so they still need care...which they'll get via the emergency room and we're going to pay for it!

I've said this since before these azzwholes passed it. They're shifting Medicaid costs from the government to US so they can boost the MIC spending without totally busting the budget.

You idiots seal clapped "throwing illegals out of Medicaid" and downvoted the shahit out of me for saying they're blowing smoke up our azzez...whelp...I was right.

[if any of you guys have a memory > goldfish’s, recall tRumP made a deal with the agricultural industry recently to ALLOW illegals to stay indefinitely coz they were crying about losing cheap labor]

So what ends up happening? These illegals get sick or injured, they end up in the EMERGENCY ROOM (which is legally obligated to treat everyone), and then the costs are passed ONTO EVERYONE ELSE!!!

(And emergency room care is even more expensive than giving illegals Medicaid)

And before you start bitching at me, I am NOT saying we should give illegals Medicaid. I am saying kicking illegals off Medicaid and then allowing them to stay is even worse than the status quo since their need / demand for healthcare doesn’t just disappear 

   

Peepee: you guys are stoooooopid dumbFUX 
 
 

I can't believe my ears on the conservative radio this morning.

The scrotum suckers finally have had the shyt taste hit their tounges and demanding Trump be transparent and stop his dumb shyt.

Dan Bonegoner has made a statement on social media that our republic "cannot survive like this" and promised to get the answers we deserve. He better stay away from any 3rd floor or higher windows.

Aye, the MAGA wave has crested  and crashed and the Rip Tide is taking it out to sea where it belongs.

 
Is Ghislaine dead yet?

LowIQTrash » 27 Jul 2025, 3:00 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 3:00 am

Beautiful post…illustrates the retardation of “MAGA” and their ignorance of THIRD order consequences!!

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User: Bacon’s Rebellion 

[if any of you guys have a memory > goldfish’s, recall tRumP made a deal with the agricultural industry recently to ALLOW illegals to stay indefinitely coz they were crying about losing cheap labor]

So what ends up happening? These illegals get sick or injured, they end up in the EMERGENCY ROOM (which is legally obligated to treat everyone), and then the costs are passed ONTO EVERYONE ELSE!!!

(And emergency room care is even more expensive than giving illegals Medicaid)

And before you start bitching at me, I am NOT saying we should give illegals Medicaid. I am saying kicking illegals off Medicaid and then allowing them to stay is even worse than the status quo since their need / demand for healthcare doesn’t just disappear 

   

Peepee: you guys are stoooooopid dumbFUX

They have absolutely no clue how everything is connected and how Obamacare could actually lower our taxes and what an ounce of prevention is.  They just want them dead. They don't know they are on that list too.

I think I saw my BCBS bill for me and Mrs was 7K last year. I had a 1K copay on a smashed finger and all they could do was bandage it. A year later the tactile sense in the tip is still not 100%.

Car Insurance is through the roofand torn off the sucka. We go full coverage because one errant deer can kill a vehicle (and me too).  We were 1200$ for two vehicles 4 years ago. We are at 2K now.  The first quarter 500$ payment was not expected. My Truck is +10 years old.. Thinking about dropping the collision..

Property Tax and Homeowners Insurance are skyrocketing like a Space X Heavy Lift.  If I ever do retire, and actually get a SS Benefit.. It will cover those costs.

We are seriously considering flipping as high as we can.  The whole show could crash by Nov 2026.

I call it the Trumpocalypse. Some might call it a Global Economic Crisis.

 
 

LowIQTrash » 27 Jul 2025, 3:00 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 3:00 am

Beautiful post…illustrates the retardation of “MAGA” and their ignorance of THIRD order consequences!!

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/2026- ... ars-report

User: Bacon’s Rebellion 

[if any of you guys have a memory > goldfish’s, recall tRumP made a deal with the agricultural industry recently to ALLOW illegals to stay indefinitely coz they were crying about losing cheap labor]

So what ends up happening? These illegals get sick or injured, they end up in the EMERGENCY ROOM (which is legally obligated to treat everyone), and then the costs are passed ONTO EVERYONE ELSE!!!

(And emergency room care is even more expensive than giving illegals Medicaid)

And before you start bitching at me, I am NOT saying we should give illegals Medicaid. I am saying kicking illegals off Medicaid and then allowing them to stay is even worse than the status quo since their need / demand for healthcare doesn’t just disappear 

   

Peepee: you guys are stoooooopid dumbFUX

How is Medicaid paid for by the government NOT actually paid for by us?
We pay for both anyway.

https://youtu.be/MQDyZiPADXU?si=vHSxboUdhMdVJL10

LowIQTrash » 27 Jul 2025, 3:00 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 3:00 am

Beautiful post…illustrates the retardation of “MAGA” and their ignorance of THIRD order consequences!!

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/2026- ... ars-report

User: Bacon’s Rebellion 

[if any of you guys have a memory > goldfish’s, recall tRumP made a deal with the agricultural industry recently to ALLOW illegals to stay indefinitely coz they were crying about losing cheap labor]

So what ends up happening? These illegals get sick or injured, they end up in the EMERGENCY ROOM (which is legally obligated to treat everyone), and then the costs are passed ONTO EVERYONE ELSE!!!

(And emergency room care is even more expensive than giving illegals Medicaid)

And before you start bitching at me, I am NOT saying we should give illegals Medicaid. I am saying kicking illegals off Medicaid and then allowing them to stay is even worse than the status quo since their need / demand for healthcare doesn’t just disappear 

   

Peepee: you guys are stoooooopid dumbFUX

Well, loser, what's the difference in MEDICAID, which is TAXPAYER FUNDED 100% paying their "medical costs" vs. taxpayers funding the ER??

Oh, and if they get "hurt on the job", a WORKER'S COMP INSURANCE PLAN covers their expenses, so you lose your BS argument there.

Please, get some FACTS before you open your BLOVIATOR!!

Really. You are about is ignorant as anyone here, with a couple of exceptions that are dumber than you. Not by a lot, but still dumber.

*Beekeeper » 27 Jul 2025, 7:37 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 7:37 am

Well, loser, what's the difference in MEDICAID, which is TAXPAYER FUNDED 100% paying their "medical costs" vs. taxpayers funding the ER??

Oh, and if they get "hurt on the job", a WORKER'S COMP INSURANCE PLAN covers their expenses, so you lose your BS argument there.

Please, get some FACTS before you open your BLOVIATOR!!

Really. You are about is ignorant as anyone here, with a couple of exceptions that are dumber than you. Not by a lot, but still dumber.

I suppose you wait until your engine blows up to change the oil too.

What is so phucking hard to understand about preventative health care being cheaper than emergency healthcare in the long run?


Why do you love the insurance middle men that kill us into debt?  If you don't die.. you're broke.

JohnnyYou » 27 Jul 2025, 7:51 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 7:51 am

I suppose you wait until your engine blows up to change the oil too.

What is so phucking hard to understand about preventative health care being cheaper than emergency healthcare in the long run?

Why do you love the insurance middle men that kill us into debt?  If you don't die.. you're broke.

Ill make an exception here to your insular BS.

A. Insurance pays for preventative care, but the REALITY IS, that starts with YOU and no insurance is required for that. What YOU put in your body has a lot to do with the quality of life you have. Try that one ne for a change. Eat right, exercise, and get a good nights sleep. NO ONE has to "pay" for that one, unless you fail to do it.

B. Medicaid doesn't pay for "preventative health". It pays for SERVICES RENDERED to treat a medical condition. Preventive care isn't a "condition" needing medical treatment.

C. If you die, INSURANCE pays your family and helps keep them afloat FINANCIALLY, if you were smart enough to take advantage of life insurance. But I seriously doubt you are that smart and would be more than happy to leave your wife/kids destitute and having nothing after you are pushing daisies.

You see, the BOTTOM LINE is that YOU want "Free ****" and have NO DESIRE to pay for the things needed to keep your OWN BODY HEALTHY!! YOU want someone to spoon feed you from cradle to grave, and you are perfectly happy with GOVERNMENT telling you how to live your life and assume ALL DECISIONS affecting your wellbeing. Try taking RESPONSIBILITY for your own life for a change, LOSER!! You might be surprised how much better that works over someone idiot in Washington that has NO CLUE what your problems or good things are. 

JohnnyYou » 27 Jul 2025, 4:00 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 4:00 am

I can't believe my ears on the conservative radio this morning.

The scrotum suckers finally have had the shyt taste hit their tounges and demanding Trump be transparent and stop his dumb shyt.

Dan Bonegoner has made a statement on social media that our republic "cannot survive like this" and promised to get the answers we deserve. He better stay away from any 3rd floor or higher windows.

Aye, the MAGA wave has crested  and crashed and the Rip Tide is taking it out to sea where it belongs.

Is Ghislaine dead yet?

Donald Trump and MAGA is an enigma.

The real problem is the "True Belivers" really do belive Trump is the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ.

Example if Trump says the Sky is "Pink" his "Die-Hard" supporters would start saying the sky is pink too because Trump said so
 

TwoIfByTea » 27 Jul 2025, 9:18 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 9:18 am

Donald Trump and MAGA is an enigma.

The real problem is the "True Belivers" really do belive Trump is the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ.

Example if Trump says the Sky is "Pink" his "Die-Hard" supporters would start saying the sky is pink too because Trump said so

The word Engima was in the 50th Birthday Letter Trump wrote to Epstien in the book Ghuzzlane collected..

One clip shows a black pundit saying "Any AI Search will prove Trump never used the word Engima in his life"

Jon Stewart laughed and said "But I bet he used one like it!"

And proceeded to show a few clips of where Trump used the word Enigma..
 
 
 

*Beekeeper » 27 Jul 2025, 8:47 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 8:47 am

Ill make an exception here to your insular BS.

A. Insurance pays for preventative care, but the REALITY IS, that starts with YOU and no insurance is required for that. What YOU put in your body has a lot to do with the quality of life you have. Try that one ne for a change. Eat right, exercise, and get a good nights sleep. NO ONE has to "pay" for that one, unless you fail to do it.

The corps feed us poison for profit.  Trump's Big Mac Attacks sure are a good symbol of  a healthy lifestyle.

B. Medicaid doesn't pay for "preventative health". It pays for SERVICES RENDERED to treat a medical condition. Preventive care isn't a "condition" needing medical treatment.

Well that sucks..  seems to me regular check ups would be a good thing to detect any early warning signs and how to mitigate costs.

C. If you die, INSURANCE pays your family and helps keep them afloat FINANCIALLY, if you were smart enough to take advantage of life insurance. But I seriously doubt you are that smart and would be more than happy to leave your wife/kids destitute and having nothing after you are pushing daisies.

Circle jerk back to the insurance scam..  Randy had life insurance..  Didn't cover his death. Faithfully paid the $9.99 every month.
I have some on both of us through work.
Keep on dreaming Captain Whitetopia.. Does your wife watch Discovery ID all day figuring out how she can kill you?

You see, the BOTTOM LINE is that YOU want "Free ****" and have NO DESIRE to pay for the things needed to keep your OWN BODY HEALTHY!! YOU want someone to spoon feed you from cradle to grave, and you are perfectly happy with GOVERNMENT telling you how to live your life and assume ALL DECISIONS affecting your wellbeing. Try taking RESPONSIBILITY for your own life for a change, LOSER!! You might be surprised how much better that works over someone idiot in Washington that has NO CLUE what your problems or good things are.

Bottom line I want efficency and low costs. A Child being paid for by our tax dollars was billed 650$ a month by health care for a prescription we paid for.  It was disheartening to learn the generic sold for 50$ Cash.  Somebody in the system was ripping the phuck off our tax dollars. But Your Elonosaurus Wrecks focused on people that were already dead because he didn't know what COBOL was.
 
 
 

JohnnyYou » 27 Jul 2025, 9:55 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 9:55 am

The corps feed us poison for profit.  Trump's Big Mac Attacks sure are a good symbol of  a healthy lifestyle.

Well that sucks..  seems to me regular check ups would be a good thing to detect any early warning signs and how to mitigate costs.

Circle jerk back to the insurance scam..  Randy had life insurance..  Didn't cover his death. Faithfully paid the $9.99 every month.
I have some on both of us through work.
Keep on dreaming Captain Whitetopia.. Does your wife watch Discovery ID all day figuring out how she can kill you?

Bottom line I want efficency and low costs. A Child being paid for by our tax dollars was billed 650$ a month by health care for a prescription we paid for.  It was disheartening to learn the generic sold for 50$ Cash.  Somebody in the system was ripping the phuck off our tax dollars. But Your Elonosaurus Wrecks focused on people that were already dead because he didn't know what COBOL was.

A. You don't have to go there to eat. Farmers markets are in every city where you get fresh anything you want. Meat markets are out there too. No one is making you go to McD's, Arby's, or Taco Bell.

B. What will "regular checkups" find that unless you have some symptom, no one knows what to look for?? Do you think pancreatic cancer is found in a "checkup" when you have no symptoms for them to do further investigation? You listen too much to your LWNJ talking heads. 

C. Murder by a beneficiary isn't going to pay out a dime. That's where LAWS COME INTO PLAY. Murder for profit is a crime. So your "claim" is just more bloviating out of your anal orifice.

D. Then get rid of GOVERNMENT PAYMENTS and watch how fast the cost of HEALTH CARE DROPS!! I can PROVE that the cost of health care exponentially increased the SECOND government "healthcare" in Medicare and Medicaid came into play. ANYTIME government is involved in ANYTHING, prices go up dramatically. WHY do you think College tuition is so high?? Because they get GOVERNMENT MONEY and the higher the costs to get in, the MORE GOVERNMENT MONEY they can demand and get.

Now, lick your wounds and run along and learn NOT to mess with FACTS AND TRUTH with your incessant whining.
 

They're shifting Medicaid costs from the government to US

That's some funny **** right there!

Zerohedge is gonna get it real good for messing with TRUMP. They will be in a downhill slide by december. 

JohnnyYou » 27 Jul 2025, 9:55 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 9:55 am

The corps feed us poison for profit.  Trump's Big Mac Attacks sure are a good symbol of  a healthy lifestyle.


 

Biden ate a healthy diet. The news media said so.
 

*Beekeeper » 27 Jul 2025, 10:06 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 10:06 am

A. You don't have to go there to eat. Farmers markets are in every city where you get fresh anything you want. Meat markets are out there too. No one is making you go to McD's, Arby's, or Taco Bell.

B. What will "regular checkups" find that unless you have some symptom, no one knows what to look for?? Do you think pancreatic cancer is found in a "checkup" with you have no symptoms for them to do further investigation? You listen too much to your LWNJ talking heads. 

C. Murder by a beneficiary isn't going to pay out a dime. That's where LAWS COME INTO PLAY. Murder for profit is a crime. So your "claim" is just more bloviating out of your anal orifice.

D. Then get rid of GOVERNMENT PAYMENTS and watch how fast the cost of HEALTH CARE DROPS!! I can PROVE that the cost of health care exponentially increased the SECOND government "healthcare" in Medicare and Medicaid came into play. ANYTIME government is involved in ANYTHING, prices go up dramatically. WHY do you think College tuition is so high?? Because they get GOVERNMENT MONEY and the higher the costs to get in, the MORE GOVERNMENT MONEY they can demand and get.

Now, lick your wounds and run along and learn NOT to mess with FACTS AND TRUTH with your incessant whining.

@Johnny You  I almost feel sorry for your ***. Everything above is facts. You can't dispute that. U R embarrassing yourself.
 

JohnnyYou » 27 Jul 2025, 4:05 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 4:05 am

They have absolutely no clue how everything is connected and how Obamacare could actually lower our taxes and what an ounce of prevention is.  They just want them dead. They don't know they are on that list too.

I think I saw my BCBS bill for me and Mrs was 7K last year. I had a 1K copay on a smashed finger and all they could do was bandage it. A year later the tactile sense in the tip is still not 100%.

Car Insurance is through the roofand torn off the sucka. We go full coverage because one errant deer can kill a vehicle (and me too).  We were 1200$ for two vehicles 4 years ago. We are at 2K now.  The first quarter 500$ payment was not expected. My Truck is +10 years old.. Thinking about dropping the collision..

Property Tax and Homeowners Insurance are skyrocketing like a Space X Heavy Lift.  If I ever do retire, and actually get a SS Benefit.. It will cover those costs.

We are seriously considering flipping as high as we can.  The whole show could crash by Nov 2026.

I call it the Trumpocalypse. Some might call it a Global Economic Crisis.

Get a deer guard on the truck with the saving from dropping full coverage.
 

MR-7 » 27 Jul 2025, 10:32 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 10:32 am

@Johnny You  I almost feel sorry for your ***. Everything above is facts. You can't dispute that. U R embarrassing yourself.

Not everything. D was wrong. Government pays far less than private insurancefor the same procedures. So, Item D is just flat out worng. 

DeezerShoove » 27 Jul 2025, 6:15 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 6:15 am

How is Medicaid paid for by the government NOT actually paid for by us?
We pay for both anyway.

 

It's the feds costing the states and locals a quarter to save the feds a nickel. 

So the MIC can have it. 

Fuelman » 27 Jul 2025, 10:06 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 10:06 am

They're shifting Medicaid costs from the government to US

That's some funny **** right there!

No its not FUNNY.

How come with Republican "Majority" in Both Houses still allows no "Negotiations" on Drug Prices ...

Because Congress is "Paid Off" by Pharmecutical Companies..

Not just Republicans the Democrats too..

Both are paid off "Equally" to Vote their way

Cannonpointer » 27 Jul 2025, 10:43 am » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 10:43 am

Not everything. D was wrong. Government pays far less than private insurancefor the same procedures. So, Item D is just flat out worng.

Fair enough. I should not have included D as my medical insurance is free.