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Zerohedge turns ON conservative morons!!
Zerohedge turns ON conservative morons!!
By LowIQTrash
27 Jul 2025 3:00 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
27 Jul 2025 6:54 pm
I remember you telling me that the states were better stewards than the fed. I remember thinking what a stupid blanket statement that was.*Beekeeper » 27 Jul 2025, 6:10 pm » wrote: ↑ Some States have separate programs for Illegals to get health care. California is a good example. It's not Medicaid.
17 of the 52 states have sanctuary policies. The rest don't deserve this ****, you retard.*Beekeeper » 27 Jul 2025, 6:10 pm » wrote: ↑ I don't give 2 craps about what happens to these ILLEGALS!! IT will give the States an incentive to END THEIR BS Sanctuary policies, demand the get the hell out, and self-deportation will skyrocket!! THAT's the endgame here.
The states cannot deport. It's the feds' job.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
27 Jul 2025 9:06 pm
Since when does any thinking man measure Trump’s “success” based on how virulent his detractor’s reactions are?*Huey » 27 Jul 2025, 11:56 am » wrote: ↑ If he is not fulfilling his deportation promise what is the left protesting about? I guess you guys are **** morons.
Trump could do a hoola hoop dance and sing Kumbaya around a campfire and they would be bitchin’.
This is why I say TrumpTards are morons!
28 Jul 2025 3:19 am
LOL.. Washington DC needs one Batman...
Boof it Up.. I'll take it..
youtu.be/51270i8F3mU?si=2c_buMIHFLAwC9ih
DUMP THE TRUMP SLUMP 2026!
Bump Caps Recommended..
Bump Caps Recommended..
28 Jul 2025 4:04 am
Hey thanks CP.. I never thought about that.. A sacrifical bumper sounds perfect! I will get a quote today and do the financial analysis of how much taking liability takes off our payment vs the deer guard. I am old enough to not screw up on my own now. How I made it this far is amazing to myself. Niether of us have hit one here in the land of free corn for the leftist Bambis in 30 years but...Cannonpointer » 27 Jul 2025, 10:41 am » wrote: ↑ Get a deer guard on the truck with the saving from dropping full coverage.
As always, your wisdom is never unappreciated, and I do enjoy enagaging in the debate. Thanks for helping an insane in the membrane radical leftist zombie. You might help me overcome being born by the beltway someday..
Somedays are better than others.. U2
youtube /watch?v=H8ofaO5jkfE
DUMP THE TRUMP SLUMP 2026!
Bump Caps Recommended..
Bump Caps Recommended..
28 Jul 2025 5:42 am
Cannonpointer » 27 Jul 2025, 6:17 pm » wrote: ↑ If you deport a fella, you do not HAVE to toss him off medicaid.
The ones he has deported are not going to cost the states money in ERs.
It's those other ones - the overhwelming majority - that are going to bankrupt the states.
Well, IF THEY ARE NOT ON MEDICAID, there's NO PAYOUT BY THE STATES EITHER!!
What part of that concept do you NOT understand?? There's FREE health clinics all over the nation. NOT taxpayer funded. They can use those. The bottom line is, they ARE being deported and it may not be as FAST as you are demanding, but they ARE being sent home. NO ONE can magically take 20 million of them and send them out tomorrow. Be REALISTIC instead of so bombastic and hyperbolic in your BS rhetoric.
Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
28 Jul 2025 5:51 am
!. I never said that, so don't go putting WORDS IN MY MOUITH I NEVER SAID!! PERIOD!!!Cannonpointer » 27 Jul 2025, 6:03 pm » wrote: ↑ When you say "facts," do you mean like when you said ERs do not charge more than primary physicians?
Or like when you claimed that Medicare and private insurers use the same billing codes because of Obamacare?
I have caught you in two blatant lies. Why should I even bother with your next pile of pure made-up ****, you **** runny mouth?
Your claim that the states can keep the illegals on Medicare is ****. If the feds say drop them, the states have to drop them - or they lose matching funds.
2. They do. Try looking at what BILLING CODES Medicare Advantage plans use. Same as MEDICARE BILLING CODES. SAME CODES EVERY PRIVATE INSURANCE PLAN USES. SAME AS ALL GROUP HEALTH PLANS USE!! CODING IS UNIVERSAL. LEARN SOMETHING!!
Key points about medical billing and the ACA:
- CPT Codes:
.
These are five-digit codes developed by the American Medical Association (AMA) that describe medical, surgical, and diagnostic procedures. - HCPCS Codes:
.
These codes, maintained by the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS), are used for services and procedures not covered by CPT, including durable medical equipment, ambulance services, and some drugs. - ICD-10 Codes:
.
These diagnostic codes are used to describe the patient's condition or illness. - Billing for ACA Plans:
.
When billing for services provided to patients with ACA plans, providers use the same CPT, HCPCS, and ICD-10 codes as they would for any other patient. - No Specific ACA Codes:
.
There are no unique billing codes specifically designated for the ACA or its enrollees. - Purpose of Codes:
.
These standardized codes allow for accurate billing, claims processing, and data collection for all types of insurance, including those offered through the ACA.
Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
28 Jul 2025 6:38 am
LowIQTrash » 27 Jul 2025, 9:06 pm » wrote: ↑ Since when does any thinking man measure Trump’s “success” based on how virulent his detractor’s reactions are?
Trump could do a hoola hoop dance and sing Kumbaya around a campfire and they would be bitchin’.
This is why I say TrumpTards are morons!
Nice spin.
BV is in question time out indefinitely, until he takes the pledge to answer questions one for one.
The Pledge viewtopic.php?f=3&t=100927
Popular Vote Totals 2024 viewtopic.php?p=2685476#p2685476
BV's Sporter Losshttps: viewtopic.php?p=2610828#p2610828
BV 33 miles: viewtopic.php?p=2747521#p2747521
Sources viewtopic.php?p=2589152#p2589152
The Pledge viewtopic.php?f=3&t=100927
Popular Vote Totals 2024 viewtopic.php?p=2685476#p2685476
BV's Sporter Losshttps: viewtopic.php?p=2610828#p2610828
BV 33 miles: viewtopic.php?p=2747521#p2747521
Sources viewtopic.php?p=2589152#p2589152
28 Jul 2025 9:07 am
Through medicaid.*Beekeeper » 28 Jul 2025, 5:42 am » wrote: ↑ Well, IF THEY ARE NOT ON MEDICAID, there's NO PAYOUT BY THE STATES EITHER!!
But they use the ER - and the payout is five or ten times as expensive.
What part of that concept do you NOT understand??
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
28 Jul 2025 9:17 am
LowIQTrash » 27 Jul 2025, 3:00 am » wrote: ↑ Beautiful post…illustrates the retardation of “MAGA” and their ignorance of THIRD order consequences!!
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/2026- ... ars-report
User: Bacon’s Rebellion
[if any of you guys have a memory > goldfish’s, recall tRumP made a deal with the agricultural industry recently to ALLOW illegals to stay indefinitely coz they were crying about losing cheap labor]
So what ends up happening? These illegals get sick or injured, they end up in the EMERGENCY ROOM (which is legally obligated to treat everyone), and then the costs are passed ONTO EVERYONE ELSE!!!
(And emergency room care is even more expensive than giving illegals Medicaid)
And before you start bitching at me, I am NOT saying we should give illegals Medicaid. I am saying kicking illegals off Medicaid and then allowing them to stay is even worse than the status quo since their need / demand for healthcare doesn’t just disappear
Peepee: you guys are stoooooopid dumbFUX
Damn, another media fed imbecile.
28 Jul 2025 9:19 am
I take it back. You ran away from this rebuttal. I had thought you doubled down:*Beekeeper » 28 Jul 2025, 5:51 am » wrote: ↑ !. I never said that, so don't go putting WORDS IN MY MOUITH I NEVER SAID!! PERIOD!!!
Cannonpointer » 27 Jul 2025, 3:55 pm » wrote: ↑ So a person getting assistance through their primary physician costs the same as that person getting assistance at the ER?
I did not know that.
Thank you SO much for informing me. Now I know. God bless you for taking the time to straighten me out, good citizen.
What part of that says that private insurers remit at the same amount as Medicare, you poor silly girl?*Beekeeper » 28 Jul 2025, 5:51 am » wrote: ↑ 2. They do. Try looking at what BILLING CODES Medicare Advantage plans use. Same as MEDICARE BILLING CODES. SAME CODES EVERY PRIVATE INSURANCE PLAN USES. SAME AS ALL GROUP HEALTH PLANS USE!! CODING IS UNIVERSAL. LEARN SOMETHING!!
Key points about medical billing and the ACA:ACCUSING ME OF LYING means you are only attempting to intimidate. I JUST EDUCATED YOU!! Don't be an ANAL ORIFICE AND LEARN SOMETHING!!
- CPT Codes:
.
These are five-digit codes developed by the American Medical Association (AMA) that describe medical, surgical, and diagnostic procedures.- HCPCS Codes:
.
These codes, maintained by the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS), are used for services and procedures not covered by CPT, including durable medical equipment, ambulance services, and some drugs.- ICD-10 Codes:
.
These diagnostic codes are used to describe the patient's condition or illness.- Billing for ACA Plans:
.
When billing for services provided to patients with ACA plans, providers use the same CPT, HCPCS, and ICD-10 codes as they would for any other patient.- No Specific ACA Codes:
.
There are no unique billing codes specifically designated for the ACA or its enrollees.- Purpose of Codes:
.
These standardized codes allow for accurate billing, claims processing, and data collection for all types of insurance, including those offered through the ACA.
NO part, you dummy.
rofl: rofl:
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
28 Jul 2025 3:03 pm
YOU SAID CODES, not amounts. Baseline for PAYMENTS by Medicare PART C and Original Medicare are one in the same. ALTHOUGH, Part C payments are USUALLY MUCH HIGHER because they negotiate rates with PROVIDERS and that is ALSO based on a Base Medicare payment PLUS any ADDED BENEFIT a MEDICARE SUPPLIMENT WOULD PROVIDE to a provider.Cannonpointer » 28 Jul 2025, 9:19 am » wrote: ↑ I take it back. You ran away from this rebuttal. I had thought you doubled down:
What part of that says that private insurers remit at the same amount as Medicare, you poor silly girl?
NO part, you dummy.
YOU aren't as smart as you want people to THINK you are!! Fact is, you know VERY LITTLE about Medicare Part C, who provides it, and how it works!!
It's not on me for YOU to hear correctly. THAT is on you!! I know what you WROTE and I know what I answered based on what you wrote!!
If you want to discuss, make sure you are on the RIGHT PAGE and one that has the CORRECT WORDS YOU WROTE ON IT as well as the CORRECT WORDS I ANSWERED WITH!!
Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
28 Jul 2025 3:08 pm
When you can VALIDATE YOUR ER claim, you MIGHT have something. AS IS, that they 'use the ER" at higher rates.Cannonpointer » 28 Jul 2025, 9:07 am » wrote: ↑ Through medicaid.
But they use the ER - and the payout is five or ten times as expensive.
What part of that concept do you NOT understand??
The FACTS ARE that ILLEGALS utilize the ER at a MUCH LOWER RATE than do US citizens for a variety or reasons. So your point is moot without merit.
THAT is proven and a FACT you'll have to refute!!
Immigrants, including those who are undocumented, actually use less health care, including emergency room care, than people born in the U.S.
Here's why:
- Barriers to Access: Undocumented immigrants face significant barriers to accessing regular healthcare, including higher uninsured rates, fear of deportation, language and cultural challenges, and limited access to primary care and specialists.
- Lower Health Needs: Immigrants are generally younger and healthier than the U.S.-born population, which also contributes to lower overall healthcare utilization.
- Reliance on Emergency Care when Necessary: When undocumented individuals do need healthcare, especially for severe or acute conditions, they often turn to emergency departments as a last resort, due to the barriers mentioned above.
Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
28 Jul 2025 5:32 pm
You said amounts, jackass.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
28 Jul 2025 6:33 pm
When you can PROVE that, go ahead and post it.
NOT going to be my job to manage YOUR feelings of how that butthurt affects you.
Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
28 Jul 2025 7:09 pm
Na na na naa na na na..*Beekeeper » 28 Jul 2025, 6:33 pm » wrote: ↑ When you can PROVE that, go ahead and post it.
NOT going to be my job to manage YOUR feelings of how that butthurt affects you.
This place can be childish and the debate is like an insects brain that lost one wing.
Circle Jerk dumb poop.
The MAGA wave was crashed. One small little ripple hit the beach. One giant rip tide is going to carry MAGA away in 2026.
I see conservatives flipping daily. Rogan is laughing his *** off and getting views discussing the Southpark tiny penis in the bed with Satan segment.
DUMP THE TRUMP SLUMP 2026!
Bump Caps Recommended..
Bump Caps Recommended..
28 Jul 2025 7:27 pm
Here, stupid:*Beekeeper » 28 Jul 2025, 6:33 pm » wrote: ↑When you can PROVE that, go ahead and post it.
NOT going to be my job to manage YOUR feelings of how that butthurt affects you.
And here is you, being DELIBERATELY and DISHONESTLY obtuse about the fact that without Medicare, illegals will be using ERs - which costs about five times as much.*Beekeeper » 27 Jul 2025, 12:02 pm » wrote: ↑ You have facts to back that up?? Because private insurance is using the same Medicare billing codes and costs these days. It was part of the obambamCare act in case you missed that part.
Ask any Medicare Part C recipient how that works too. It's PRIVATE INSURANCE that pays IDENTIALLY how Medicare pays out using the SAME IDENTICAL payment "chart". Whatever the Medicare "approved" amount is, that is all they pay to the providers.
You are free to believe whatever you want, but the facts dispute your "beliefs".
Consider that you suck.*Beekeeper » 27 Jul 2025, 12:37 pm » wrote: ↑ Same thing, different way to pay. Same number of dollars too. The Feds don't "save" the taxpayers a red cent no matter if they pay or the States pay. How hard is THAT concept to grasp for you?? A $20 bill for services, no matter WHO PAYS IT, state or feds, is still $20 and the taxpayer is paying that through TAXATION!!
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
28 Jul 2025 7:33 pm
I don't subscribe to your left wing sources, you preposterous fruitcake.*Beekeeper » 28 Jul 2025, 3:08 pm » wrote: ↑ When you can VALIDATE YOUR ER claim, you MIGHT have something. AS IS, that they 'use the ER" at higher rates.
The FACTS ARE that ILLEGALS utilize the ER at a MUCH LOWER RATE than do US citizens for a variety or reasons. So your point is moot without merit.
THAT is proven and a FACT you'll have to refute!!
Immigrants, including those who are undocumented, actually use less health care, including emergency room care, than people born in the U.S.
Here's why:
- Barriers to Access: Undocumented immigrants face significant barriers to accessing regular healthcare, including higher uninsured rates, fear of deportation, language and cultural challenges, and limited access to primary care and specialists.
- Lower Health Needs: Immigrants are generally younger and healthier than the U.S.-born population, which also contributes to lower overall healthcare utilization.
- Reliance on Emergency Care when Necessary: When undocumented individuals do need healthcare, especially for severe or acute conditions, they often turn to emergency departments as a last resort, due to the barriers mentioned above.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
28 Jul 2025 11:49 pm
Retarded idiot went from “It doesn’t matter if ERs charge or Medicaid pays” to “My [pro illegal immigration] sources say illegals can’t access HC.”Cannonpointer » 28 Jul 2025, 7:33 pm » wrote: ↑ I don't subscribe to your left wing sources, you preposterous fruitcake.
This is why I say these CONJOBS are **** morons!
29 Jul 2025 5:53 am
Illegals don't get Medicare. Never did.Cannonpointer » 28 Jul 2025, 7:27 pm » wrote: ↑ Here, stupid:
And here is you, being DELIBERATELY and DISHONESTLY obtuse about the fact that without Medicare, illegals will be using ERs - which costs about five times as much.
Consider that you suck.
Still trying to get someone to manage your butthurt feelings??
Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
29 Jul 2025 5:57 am
Cannonpointer » 28 Jul 2025, 7:27 pm » wrote: ↑ Here, stupid:
And here is you, being DELIBERATELY and DISHONESTLY obtuse about the fact that without Medicare, illegals will be using ERs - which costs about five times as much.
Consider that you suck.
Medicare Part C is private insurance. They start with the same base original Medicare payment chart and go from there when paying claims and ALSO use the same CODING CHART that EVERY insurer uses.
Educate yourself before you go on these tirades of hate. You only know it all in your own mind. I don't subscribe to that belief of yours.
Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
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