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RebelGator » 28 Jul 2025, 12:24 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Jul 2025, 12:24 pm

I can turn the same thing on you and ask why you don't recognize Palestinians are the terrorist aggressors. It's not Israel sending suicide bombers into restaurants and public busses, it's not Israel killing Olympic athletes, it's not Israel firing thousands of rockets into residential neighborhoods, it's not Israel who killed young people at a music festival that started this latest war. 

When Israel counter punches, after being struck first, I can understand.

I always maintained that Hamas was evil also. However, there is no credible evidence showing that most of the Palestinians are terrorists. They are people that just live in poverty like most of the Middle East. They have a reason to hate Israel. They have reasons to be pissed off at them. And it has nothing to do with religion. Why would you bring up that they send people to kill children when you know damn well that Israel does the same? They don't just go after Hamas, they level the whole **** buildings with women and children. You aren't going to win that debate. 
 

Vegas » 28 Jul 2025, 12:34 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Jul 2025, 12:34 pm

I always maintained that Hamas was evil also. However, there is no credible evidence showing that most of the Palestinians are terrorists. They are people that just live in poverty like most of the Middle East. They have a reason to hate Israel. They have reasons to be pissed off at them. And it has nothing to do with religion. Why would you bring up that they send people to kill children when you know damn well that Israel does the same? They don't just go after Hamas, they level the whole **** buildings with women and children. You aren't going to win that debate.

The evidence is that Israel can coexist with Palestinians, there are over 2 million of them living in Israel. Meanwhile, Hamas has declared their intent to kill every Jew and 75% of the Palestinian electorate put them in position to do so......those are facts.

jerrab » 28 Jul 2025, 12:32 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Jul 2025, 12:32 pm

go back two weeks each case and you  will see who strikes first.

Ok, tell me what Israel did two weeks prior to the 10/7 massacre.....I'll wait.

jerrab » 28 Jul 2025, 11:55 am » wrote: ↑

28 Jul 2025, 11:55 am

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/level- ... ip-rebuild

Posted 02-04-2025...

NEXT!
 

jerrab » 28 Jul 2025, 12:00 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Jul 2025, 12:00 pm

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6368924186112

undated...could be from his first term....  
 

DeezerShoove » 28 Jul 2025, 11:41 am » wrote: ↑

28 Jul 2025, 11:41 am

I was just beginning to trust everyone too.
Damn...

Double Damn!
 

RebelGator » 28 Jul 2025, 12:43 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Jul 2025, 12:43 pm

Ok, tell me what Israel did two weeks prior to the 10/7 massacre.....I'll wait.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campa ... apartheid/
In May 2021, Palestinian families in Sheikh Jarrah, a neighbourhood in occupied East Jerusalem, began protesting against Israel’s plan to forcibly evict them from their homes to make way for Jewish settlers. Many of the families are refugees, who settled in Sheikh Jarrah after being forcibly displaced around the time of Israel’s establishment as a state in 1948.  Since Israel occupied East Jerusalem and the rest of the West Bank in 1967, Palestinians in Sheikh Jarrah have been continuously targeted by Israeli authorities, who use discriminatory laws to systematically dispossess Palestinians of their land and homes for the benefit of Jewish Israelis.  In response to the demonstrations in Sheikh Jarrah, thousands of Palestinians across Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT) held their own protests in support of the families, and against their shared experience of fragmentation, dispossession, and segregation. These were met with excessive and deadly force by Israeli authorities with thousands injured, arrested and detained.  The events of May 2021 were emblematic of the oppression which Palestinians have faced every day, for decades. The discrimination, the dispossession, the repression of dissent, the killings and injuries – all are part of a system which is designed to privilege Jewish Israelis at the expense of Palestinians.  This is apartheid. Amnesty International’s new investigation shows that Israel imposes a system of oppression and domination against Palestinians across all areas under its control: in Israel and the OPT, and against Palestinian refugees, in order to benefit Jewish Israelis. This amounts to apartheid as prohibited in international law.Laws, policies and practices which are intended to maintain a cruel system of control over Palestinians, have left them fragmented geographically and politically, frequently impoverished, and in a constant state of fear and insecurity.///////----------------------------------

it is continuous and never stopping.
 

jerrab » 28 Jul 2025, 2:36 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Jul 2025, 2:36 pm

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campa ... apartheid/
In May 2021, Palestinian families in Sheikh Jarrah, a neighbourhood in occupied East Jerusalem, began protesting against Israel’s plan to forcibly evict them from their homes to make way for Jewish settlers. Many of the families are refugees, who settled in Sheikh Jarrah after being forcibly displaced around the time of Israel’s establishment as a state in 1948.  Since Israel occupied East Jerusalem and the rest of the West Bank in 1967, Palestinians in Sheikh Jarrah have been continuously targeted by Israeli authorities, who use discriminatory laws to systematically dispossess Palestinians of their land and homes for the benefit of Jewish Israelis.  In response to the demonstrations in Sheikh Jarrah, thousands of Palestinians across Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT) held their own protests in support of the families, and against their shared experience of fragmentation, dispossession, and segregation. These were met with excessive and deadly force by Israeli authorities with thousands injured, arrested and detained.  The events of May 2021 were emblematic of the oppression which Palestinians have faced every day, for decades. The discrimination, the dispossession, the repression of dissent, the killings and injuries – all are part of a system which is designed to privilege Jewish Israelis at the expense of Palestinians.  This is apartheid. Amnesty International’s new investigation shows that Israel imposes a system of oppression and domination against Palestinians across all areas under its control: in Israel and the OPT, and against Palestinian refugees, in order to benefit Jewish Israelis. This amounts to apartheid as prohibited in international law.Laws, policies and practices which are intended to maintain a cruel system of control over Palestinians, have left them fragmented geographically and politically, frequently impoverished, and in a constant state of fear and insecurity.///////----------------------------------

it is continuous and never stopping.

You said two weeks, try again.
 

jerrab » 27 Jul 2025, 6:27 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Jul 2025, 6:27 pm

Benjamin Netanyahu admits to  blocking aid.////////////////////////

One hundred twenty-seven people, 85 of them children, have died from hunger or malnutrition as a result of Israel’s siege of Gaza, according to Gaza’s Health Ministry.Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu blocked all aid to Gaza in March, claiming that it was to pressure Hamas into accepting a ceasefire that Israel broke unilaterally later

See...TRUMP is all over it.

Trump, breaking with Netanyahu, acknowledges “real starvation” in Gaza
 

RebelGator » 28 Jul 2025, 2:47 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Jul 2025, 2:47 pm

You said two weeks, try again.

Can't find anything,  can you?

RebelGator » 28 Jul 2025, 12:41 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Jul 2025, 12:41 pm

The evidence is that Israel can coexist with Palestinians, there are over 2 million of them living in Israel. Meanwhile, Hamas has declared their intent to kill every Jew and 75% of the Palestinian electorate put them in position to do so......those are facts.

They cannot coexist. Israel made it abundantly clear that they will control Gaza and every aspect of Palestine's life. For years, Israel controlled their water supply, their food supply, where they go and what they do. So by coexisting you mean an open air prison, then ok...but that is hardly coexisting. There was land specifically allotted to both Israel and the Arab population. Israel gradually took 80% more than what was permitted. That isn't coexistence. They shoot rockets because that is all they can do to fight back.  

MR-7 » 28 Jul 2025, 2:47 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Jul 2025, 2:47 pm

See...TRUMP is all over it.

Trump, breaking with Netanyahu, acknowledges “real starvation” in Gaza

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/20/middleea ... eaths-intl

MR-7 » 28 Jul 2025, 2:47 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Jul 2025, 2:47 pm

See...TRUMP is all over it.

Trump, breaking with Netanyahu, acknowledges “real starvation” in Gaza

was not two days ago.

https://youtu.be/uRtZuB5TmeU?si=D3u53t2CBvUlVEsE
 

RebelGator » 28 Jul 2025, 2:47 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Jul 2025, 2:47 pm

You said two weeks, try again.

on going trumps two weeks.

look in the mirror.

that is who is responsible for 10 7 and every american who  always takes israel's side.

MR-7 » 28 Jul 2025, 2:47 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Jul 2025, 2:47 pm

See...TRUMP is all over it.

Trump, breaking with Netanyahu, acknowledges “real starvation” in Gaza

something that made trump happy


 https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/6 ... er-in-Gaza

RebelGator » 28 Jul 2025, 3:50 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Jul 2025, 3:50 pm

Can't find anything,  can you?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/4/5 ... qsa-mosque
lice raid on the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem that left at least 12 Palestinians injured, as Israeli Prime Miniser Benjamin Netanyahu said he was working to “maintain the status quo” at the holy site.The Arab League meeting was called by Jordan, Egypt and Palestinian officials, with tensions remaining high in Jerusalem since Israeli police attacked worshippers in the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound overnight on Wednesday, during the holy month of Ramadan.

2023/4/5

4-5 2023


///Palestinian witnesses said Israeli forces used excessive force including stun grenades and tear gas, causing suffocation injuries to the worshippers, and beatings with batons and rifles.“We were conducting itikaf [Muslim religious worship] at Al-Aqsa because it’s Ramadan,” said Bakr Owais, a 24-year-old student who was detained. “The army broke the upper windows of the mosque and began throwing stun grenades at us …They made us lay on the ground and they hand cuffed us one by one and took us all out. They kept swearing at us during this time. It was very barbaric.
 

Vegas » 28 Jul 2025, 3:55 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Jul 2025, 3:55 pm

They cannot coexist. Israel made it abundantly clear that they will control Gaza and every aspect of Palestine's life. For years, Israel controlled their water supply, their food supply, where they go and what they do. So by coexisting you mean an open air prison, then ok...but that is hardly coexisting. There was land specifically allotted to both Israel and the Arab population. Israel gradually took 80% more than what was permitted. That isn't coexistence. They shoot rockets because that is all they can do to fight back.

israel wants it all and stupid christians say God gave israel to the jews.

I am christian and I don't believe it.

but STUPID CHRISTIANS DO.

jerrab » 28 Jul 2025, 4:25 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Jul 2025, 4:25 pm

israel wants it all and stupid christians say God gave israel to the jews.

I am christian and I don't believe it.

but STUPID CHRISTIANS DO.

I am also a Christian. I 100% agree with you. Zionism is spoken of in the Old Testament, as well as Jews being referred to as God's chosen people. One problem. I don't know where in the bible that means that Jews should have a green light to slaughter everything and everyone in their path with impunity. 

 

RebelGator » 28 Jul 2025, 3:50 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Jul 2025, 3:50 pm

Can't find anything,  can you?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/4/5 ... qsa-mosque

https://aje.io/1v9cd5

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/4/5 ... qsa-mosque
 

Vegas » 28 Jul 2025, 4:37 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Jul 2025, 4:37 pm

I am also a Christian. I 100% agree with you. Zionism is spoken of in the Old Testament, as well as Jews being referred to as God's chosen people. One problem. I don't know where in the bible that means that Jews should have a green light to slaughter everything and everyone in their path with impunity.

it is  in the old testament.

I don't believe the old testament was inspired/written by god.