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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/27/us/p ... -cost.html

What Will It Cost to Renovate the ‘Free’ Air Force One? Don’t Ask

To hide the cost of renovating the plane Qatar donated to President Trump, the Air Force appears to have tucked it inside an over-budget, behind-schedule nuclear modernization program.

Officially, and conveniently, the price tag has been classified. But even by Washington standards, where “black budgets” are often used as an excuse to avoid revealing the cost of outdated spy satellites and lavish end-of-year parties, the techniques being used to hide the cost of Mr. Trump’s pet project are inventive. Which may explain why no one wants to discuss a mysterious, $934 million transfer of funds from one of the Pentagon’s most over-budget, out-of-control projects — the modernization of America’s aging, ground-based nuclear missiles....

Mr. Trump’s plane probably won’t fly for long: It will take a year or two to get the work done, and then the Qatari gift — improved with the latest communications and in-flight protective technology — will be transferred to the yet-to-be-created Trump presidential library after he leaves office in 2029, the president has said.


"Blah...blah....it will belong to the Air Force.....blah....blah...blah.



so **** g'ddammned stupid 
 
 

Blackvegetable » 30 Jul 2025, 8:48 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 8:48 am

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/27/us/p ... -cost.html

What Will It Cost to Renovate the ‘Free’ Air Force One? Don’t Ask

To hide the cost of renovating the plane Qatar donated to President Trump, the Air Force appears to have tucked it inside an over-budget, behind-schedule nuclear modernization program.

Officially, and conveniently, the price tag has been classified. But even by Washington standards, where “black budgets” are often used as an excuse to avoid revealing the cost of outdated spy satellites and lavish end-of-year parties, the techniques being used to hide the cost of Mr. Trump’s pet project are inventive. Which may explain why no one wants to discuss a mysterious, $934 million transfer of funds from one of the Pentagon’s most over-budget, out-of-control projects — the modernization of America’s aging, ground-based nuclear missiles....

Mr. Trump’s plane probably won’t fly for long: It will take a year or two to get the work done, and then the Qatari gift — improved with the latest communications and in-flight protective technology — will be transferred to the yet-to-be-created Trump presidential library after he leaves office in 2029, the president has said.


"Blah...blah....it will belong to the Air Force.....blah....blah...blah.



so **** g'ddammned stupid 
 
 

 

Sir,it seems you are getting upset over trivial matters.  Maybe you should slow down a bit.  Maybe go to the firing range and blow off some steam.

 

*Huey » 30 Jul 2025, 8:51 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 8:51 am

Sir,it seems you are getting upset over trivial matters.  Maybe you should slow down a bit.  Maybe go to the firing range and blow off some steam.

What's "trivial"?

The waste?

The fact that you, once again, rebleated what you were told like a good sheep?


Be specific. 
 

Blackvegetable » 30 Jul 2025, 8:53 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 8:53 am

*Huey » 30 Jul 2025, 8:51 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 8:51 am

Sir,it seems you are getting upset over trivial matters.  Maybe you should slow down a bit.  Maybe go to the firing range and blow off some steam.

What's "trivial"?

The waste?

The fact that you, once again, rebleated what you were told like a good sheep?

Be specific.

Sir, not sure what your stand is on this.

My stand is in the grand scheme of things you were told to get all uptight over this but I think this is a trivial matter.  There are more important matters occurring, like trade deals, bringing down the price of goods from the Biden administration, attempting to end wars, etc.

And before you ask.  Post by the democrats:



Posted by the democrats
 

*Huey » 30 Jul 2025, 8:57 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 8:57 am

Sir, not sure what your stand is on this.


 

Oh, really?

If so, you must be one dumb ****. 

Now answer the question asked.

*Huey » 30 Jul 2025, 8:57 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 8:57 am

Blackvegetable » 30 Jul 2025, 8:53 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 8:53 am

*Huey » 30 Jul 2025, 8:51 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 8:51 am

Sir,it seems you are getting upset over trivial matters.  Maybe you should slow down a bit.  Maybe go to the firing range and blow off some steam.

What's "trivial"?

The waste?

The fact that you, once again, rebleated what you were told like a good sheep?

Be specific.

Sir, not sure what your stand is on this.

My stand is in the grand scheme of things you were told to get all uptight over this but I think this is a trivial matter.  There are more important matters occurring, like trade deals, bringing down the price of goods from the Biden administration, attempting to end wars, etc.

And before you ask.  Post by the democrats:



Posted by the democrats
 

 

 

Blackvegetable » 30 Jul 2025, 9:11 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 9:11 am

*Huey » 30 Jul 2025, 8:57 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 8:57 am

Sir, not sure what your stand is on this.



 

Oh, really?

If so, you must be one dumb ****. 

Now answer the question asked.

 

Sir, I will be more than happy to answer your inquiry after you post what YOUR stand on this is. Be specific so as not to lead to any future confusion which has been your history.

*Huey » 30 Jul 2025, 8:57 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 8:57 am

Sir, not sure what your stand is on this.

My stand is in the grand scheme of things you were told to get all uptight over this but I think this is a trivial matter.  There are more important matters occurring, like trade deals, bringing down the price of goods from the Biden administration, attempting to end wars, etc.

And before you ask.  Post by the democrats:



Posted by the democrats

My stand is in the grand scheme of things you were told to get all uptight over this but I think this is a trivial matter.  

Is this your thread?

viewtopic.php?t=95170

The three woke US states that Musk's DOGE says are responsible for $400m unemployment fraud
 

*Huey » 30 Jul 2025, 9:16 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 9:16 am

Sir, I will be more than happy to answer your inquiry after 

That long since stopped hunting...

Blackvegetable » 30 Jul 2025, 9:16 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 9:16 am

*Huey » 30 Jul 2025, 8:57 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 8:57 am

Sir, not sure what your stand is on this.

My stand is in the grand scheme of things you were told to get all uptight over this but I think this is a trivial matter.  There are more important matters occurring, like trade deals, bringing down the price of goods from the Biden administration, attempting to end wars, etc.

And before you ask.  Post by the democrats:



Posted by the democrats

My stand is in the grand scheme of things you were told to get all uptight over this but I think this is a trivial matter.  

Is this your thread?

viewtopic.php?t=95170

The three woke US states that Musk's DOGE says are responsible for $400m unemployment fraud
 

 

Sir, once you take an unambiguous stand that removes all wiggle room on your OP I will be more than happy to answer ALL questions you divert with.

Respectfully,

Huey
 

*Huey » 30 Jul 2025, 9:18 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 9:18 am

Sir, once you 

QED

*Huey » 30 Jul 2025, 9:16 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 9:16 am

*Huey » 30 Jul 2025, 8:57 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 8:57 am

Blackvegetable » 30 Jul 2025, 8:53 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 8:53 am

What's "trivial"?

The waste?

The fact that you, once again, rebleated what you were told like a good sheep?

Be specific.

Sir, not sure what your stand is on this.

My stand is in the grand scheme of things you were told to get all uptight over this but I think this is a trivial matter.  There are more important matters occurring, like trade deals, bringing down the price of goods from the Biden administration, attempting to end wars, etc.

And before you ask.  Post by the democrats:



Posted by the democrats
 


 

Blackvegetable » 30 Jul 2025, 9:11 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 9:11 am

*Huey » 30 Jul 2025, 8:57 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 8:57 am

Sir, not sure what your stand is on this.




 

Oh, really?

If so, you must be one dumb ****. 

Now answer the question asked.


 

Sir, I will be more than happy to answer your inquiry after you post what YOUR stand on this is. Be specific so as not to lead to any future confusion which has been your history.

 

 

Blackvegetable » 30 Jul 2025, 9:18 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 9:18 am

*Huey » 30 Jul 2025, 9:16 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 9:16 am

Sir, I will be more than happy to answer your inquiry after 

That long since stopped hunting...

 

Your anger is getting the best of you.  In your apparent anger you are deleting and editing portions of others quotes when you reply:

Sir, I will be more than happy to answer your inquiry after you post what YOUR stand on this is. Be specific so as not to lead to any future confusion which has been your history.

After you take that stand all will be better.  Remember what I told you yesterday.  Last week I had life changing events.  YOU did not matter.  And as I told you yesterday I have a new outlook on posting.  

Have a nice day in Salem.

*Huey » 30 Jul 2025, 8:57 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 8:57 am

Blackvegetable » 30 Jul 2025, 8:53 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 8:53 am

*Huey » 30 Jul 2025, 8:51 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 8:51 am

Sir,it seems you are getting upset over trivial matters.  Maybe you should slow down a bit.  Maybe go to the firing range and blow off some steam.

What's "trivial"?

The waste?

The fact that you, once again, rebleated what you were told like a good sheep?

Be specific.

Sir, not sure what your stand is on this.

My stand is in the grand scheme of things you were told to get all uptight over this but I think this is a trivial matter.  There are more important matters occurring, like trade deals, bringing down the price of goods from the Biden administration, attempting to end wars, etc.

And before you ask.  Post by the democrats:



Posted by the democrats
 

 

 

Blackvegetable » 30 Jul 2025, 9:20 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 9:20 am

*Huey » 30 Jul 2025, 9:18 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 9:18 am

Sir, once you 

QED

 

Again,  your mental condition has allowed you to edit quotes again.

I guess I am done here.  Good day, Sir.

*Huey » 30 Jul 2025, 9:23 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 9:23 am

Again,  your mental condition has allowed you to edit quotes again.

I guess I am done here.  Good day, Sir.

What quote was "edited"?

Blackvegetable » 30 Jul 2025, 9:29 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 9:29 am

*Huey » 30 Jul 2025, 9:23 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 9:23 am

Again,  your mental condition has allowed you to edit quotes again.

I guess I am done here.  Good day, Sir.

What quote was "edited"?

 

Sir, with much respect, I must say your anger is preventing you from understanding a post.  I quoted your post that shows you edited a quote of min.  You quote it.  

Ifm=, in your tantrum, you are going to demand reposts, you have a nice day.  Enjoy the wonderful weather. It may be a little warm later but at the moment it is only in the 80s in Salem with no chance of rain.  

Enjoy!

*Huey » 30 Jul 2025, 9:21 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 9:21 am

Your anger is getting the best of you.  In your apparent anger 

this is yet more evidence that you must limit yourself to answering questions...

You can't do me...you're not nearly good enough.
 

After Trump leaves office, ownership of the plane will transfer to the Trump presidential library foundation, Hegseth confirmed during a June Senate Appropriations Committee hearing. But that didn’t sit well with some lawmakers. 


“Why would we ask the American taxpayer to spend upwards of $1 billion on a plane that would then only be used for a handful of months and then transfer directly to the president?” Connecticut Sen. Chris Murphy asked. “That doesn’t sound like a wise use of taxpayer dollars.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/pete-hegs ... is-leaked/
 

Blackvegetable » 30 Jul 2025, 10:01 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 10:01 am

After Trump leaves office, ownership of the plane will transfer to the Trump presidential library foundation, Hegseth confirmed during a June Senate Appropriations Committee hearing. But that didn’t sit well with some lawmakers. 


“Why would we ask the American taxpayer to spend upwards of $1 billion on a plane that would then only be used for a handful of months and then transfer directly to the president?” Connecticut Sen. Chris Murphy asked. “That doesn’t sound like a wise use of taxpayer dollars.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/pete-hegs ... is-leaked/
 

 

The Trump administration has accepted the “unconditional donation” of a luxury jet from Qatar, with no stipulation on what should happen to the aircraft after President Donald Trump leaves office, according to an agreement reviewed by ABC News.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-acce ... =124150583

 

*Huey » 30 Jul 2025, 10:10 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 10:10 am

The Trump administration has accepted the “unconditional donation” of a luxury jet from Qatar, with no stipulation on what should happen to the aircraft after President Donald Trump leaves office, according to an agreement reviewed by ABC News.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-acce ... =124150583

Post the date of your citation.

Blackvegetable » 30 Jul 2025, 10:11 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 10:11 am

*Huey » 30 Jul 2025, 10:10 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 10:10 am

The Trump administration has accepted the “unconditional donation” of a luxury jet from Qatar, with no stipulation on what should happen to the aircraft after President Donald Trump leaves office, according to an agreement reviewed by ABC News.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-acce ... =124150583

Post the date of your citation.

 

 

SIr, that is your job.  I believe it is two day ago.  Now, your article does not show where in the MOU what happens to the jet after trump leaves office.

And personally, if it goes to his library, I'm ok with that.  Perhaps ABS 16 million for falsely claiming Trump was liable for rape will help set it in place.

*Huey » 30 Jul 2025, 10:15 am » wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2025, 10:15 am

SIr, that is your job. 

:rofl:  

It's your citation, Shiftless.