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Blackvegetable » 05 Aug 2025, 6:41 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 6:41 am

*Huey » 05 Aug 2025, 6:30 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 6:30 am

In the early 1800s framers of the constitution like Monroe subsidized research and development of repeating rifles so the avg citizen could afford one.

In short, the Founding generation was familiar with tremendous advances in firearms technology. In the American colonial experience, the rate of fire for an ordinary firearm had quintupled. As of 1791, repeating firearms capable of firing 16 or 22 shots had been demonstrated, but they were much too expensive for ordinary citizens. The Madison-Monroe administration's wise industrial policy, continued under future administrations, led the way towards the mass production of high quality firearms at low prices. No one in 1791 or 1815 could have foreseen all the firearms innovations in the 19th century. We do know that the American federal government did all it could to make those innovations possible.

https://reason.com/volokh/2023/05/26/th ... echnology/

Not only is your source a paid mouthpiece for the NRA, he went to a sub par college...

In your words.
 

 

Sir, nothing you posted refutes the citation.

And another source:

One of the men to credit for why repeating arms became much less expensive during the 19th century is James Madison, author of the Second Amendment. During Madison’s presidency (1809-17), Secretary of War James Monroe (who would succeed Madison as president), successfully promoted legislation to foster the development of firearms technology. In particular, the federal armories at Springfield, Mass., and Harpers Ferry, Va., were ordered to invent the means of producing firearms with interchangeable parts.To function reliably, repeating firearms must have internal components that fit together very precisely—much more precisely than is necessary for single-shot firearms. Before President Madison and Secretary Monroe started the manufacturing revolution, firearms were built one at a time by craftsmen. Making a repeating arm required much more time and expertise than making a single-shot firearm. How to make repeating arms was well-known, but making them at a labor cost the average person could afford was impossible.

https://fee.org/articles/firearms-techn ... amendment/

*Huey » 05 Aug 2025, 8:25 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 8:25 am

Sir, nothing you posted refutes the citation.

And another source:

One of the men to credit for why repeating arms became much less expensive during the 19th century is James Madison, author of the Second Amendment. During Madison’s presidency (1809-17), Secretary of War James Monroe (who would succeed Madison as president), successfully promoted legislation to foster the development of firearms technology. In particular, the federal armories at Springfield, Mass., and Harpers Ferry, Va., were ordered to invent the means of producing firearms with interchangeable parts.To function reliably, repeating firearms must have internal components that fit together very precisely—much more precisely than is necessary for single-shot firearms. Before President Madison and Secretary Monroe started the manufacturing revolution, firearms were built one at a time by craftsmen. Making a repeating arm required much more time and expertise than making a single-shot firearm. How to make repeating arms was well-known, but making them at a labor cost the average person could afford was impossible.

https://fee.org/articles/firearms-techn ... amendment/

Shrug.

Blackvegetable » 05 Aug 2025, 9:00 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 9:00 am

*Huey » 05 Aug 2025, 8:25 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 8:25 am

Sir, nothing you posted refutes the citation.

And another source:

One of the men to credit for why repeating arms became much less expensive during the 19th century is James Madison, author of the Second Amendment. During Madison’s presidency (1809-17), Secretary of War James Monroe (who would succeed Madison as president), successfully promoted legislation to foster the development of firearms technology. In particular, the federal armories at Springfield, Mass., and Harpers Ferry, Va., were ordered to invent the means of producing firearms with interchangeable parts.To function reliably, repeating firearms must have internal components that fit together very precisely—much more precisely than is necessary for single-shot firearms. Before President Madison and Secretary Monroe started the manufacturing revolution, firearms were built one at a time by craftsmen. Making a repeating arm required much more time and expertise than making a single-shot firearm. How to make repeating arms was well-known, but making them at a labor cost the average person could afford was impossible.

https://fee.org/articles/firearms-techn ... amendment/

Shrug.

 

Mr. Vegtable, Iamthoroughly enjoying this.  You are afraid of questions and you have no rebuttal.

*Huey » 05 Aug 2025, 9:06 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 9:06 am

Mr. Vegtable, Iamthoroughly enjoying this.  You are afraid of questions and you have no rebuttal.

Solo enjoyment is something with which you have a lot of practice.

Blackvegetable » 04 Aug 2025, 8:24 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2025, 8:24 pm

There's no evidence you ever did.

See prediction 6.

1. "I posted my definition of survivorship bias..." To which I will reply with the usual and the video. 
2. Continue with your step 4 evasion
3. Continue to copy me
4. Continue with non-answers.
5. November, 2022.
6. Continue to lie about me posting my definition in my example, while he continues to refuse to read it. 

*Huey » 03 Aug 2025, 9:23 am » wrote: ↑

03 Aug 2025, 9:23 am

And justice is served.  This is a victory for all who wish to defend/protect their property.

The St. Louis couple who went viral in 2020 for wielding guns as Black Lives Matter protesters marched outside their property have regained possession of their semiautomatic rifle.

 After a years long and complex legal struggle to reclaim their weapons after they were seized by authorities more than five years ago, police have returned the AR-15 to St. Louis lawyers Mark and Patricia McCloskey.

https://nypost.com/2025/08/03/us-news/s ... rontation/

really there was not much of a case against them.

Blackvegetable » 05 Aug 2025, 9:14 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 9:14 am

*Huey » 05 Aug 2025, 9:06 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 9:06 am

Mr. Vegtable, Iamthoroughly enjoying this.  You are afraid of questions and you have no rebuttal.

Solo enjoyment is something with which you have a lot of practice.

 

This isn't solo.  Your responses entertain me.  You whine about assertions, Sir, while making nothing but assertions.   I have backed up my assertions with citations and sources.  

jerra » wrote:

01 Feb 1970, 11:18 pm

*Huey » 03 Aug 2025, 9:23 am » wrote: ↑

03 Aug 2025, 9:23 am

And justice is served.  This is a victory for all who wish to defend/protect their property.

The St. Louis couple who went viral in 2020 for wielding guns as Black Lives Matter protesters marched outside their property have regained possession of their semiautomatic rifle.

 After a years long and complex legal struggle to reclaim their weapons after they were seized by authorities more than five years ago, police have returned the AR-15 to St. Louis lawyers Mark and Patricia McCloskey.

https://nypost.com/2025/08/03/us-news/s ... rontation/

really there was not much of a case against them.

 

There never should have been.  Self and home defense is a staple in this country when you feel threatened.  And in many stand your ground states, which MO is one, it is allowed.

Blackvegetable » 04 Aug 2025, 8:08 am » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2025, 8:08 am

*Huey » 04 Aug 2025, 7:59 am » wrote: ↑

04 Aug 2025, 7:59 am

Looks like you lied again.

Your rule.

Mr Vegetable, it would behoove you to educate yourself on topics prior to flapping your gums.  This is the second topic in  five minutes where you face planted.  Well, actually third is you count the BS concerning your post count from Friday.

A topic of zero consequence....an attempted distraction from "OrangeMan really sucks"..
 

 

Keep in mind the goal of Mr. Vegetable is to turn ALL topics into one concerning Trump. Any topic not about trump is a diversion, according to the Democrat Tool.

*Huey » 09 Aug 2025, 6:31 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 6:31 am

Keep in mind the goal of Mr. Vegetable is to turn ALL topics into one concerning Trump. Any topic not about trump is a diversion, according to the Democrat Tool.

As opposed to all topics being about me?

I figure since Grifty is POTUS, and all...
 

Blackvegetable » 09 Aug 2025, 6:37 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 6:37 am

*Huey » 09 Aug 2025, 6:31 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 6:31 am

Keep in mind the goal of Mr. Vegetable is to turn ALL topics into one concerning Trump. Any topic not about trump is a diversion, according to the Democrat Tool.

As opposed to all topics being about me?

I figure since Grifty is POTUS, and all...
 

 

The forum is not titled "All Trump All The Time".  I understand you are a paid poster, hitting triple digits all week long.  To include 150 and 160 plus daily posts.

Are we not allowed, since your arrival, to discuss things other than Trump?  I know you need to supplement your income because your Taco Bell shifts aren't doing the job.

*Huey » 09 Aug 2025, 6:40 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 6:40 am

The forum is not titled "All Trump All The Time".  I understand you are a paid poster, hitting triple digits all week long.  To include 150 and 160 plus daily posts.

Are we not allowed, since your arrival, to discuss things other than Trump?  I know you need to supplement your income because your Taco Bell shifts aren't doing the job.

Tiny,

Check your Archives of Bitterness.


 

Blackvegetable » 09 Aug 2025, 6:49 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 6:49 am

Tiny,

Check your Archives of Bitterness.

Lil One with Tiny Feet,

I have nothing to be bitter about, Mary.

*Huey » 09 Aug 2025, 7:00 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 7:00 am

Lil One with Tiny Feet,

I have nothing to be bitter about, Mary.

Plenty, from the looks of it...

We could take a count, but we know how you hate that.
 

Blackvegetable » 09 Aug 2025, 7:03 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 7:03 am

*Huey » 09 Aug 2025, 7:00 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 7:00 am

Lil One with Tiny Feet,

I have nothing to be bitter about, Mary.

Plenty, from the looks of it...

We could take a count, but we know how you hate that.
 

 

By al means, Tuco, fire away.  But we both know you rarely follow thru.

I'll wait. I still have nothing better to do since my health issue a few weeks ago.

*Huey » 09 Aug 2025, 7:13 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 7:13 am

By al means, Tuco, fire away.  But we both know you rarely follow thru.

I'll wait. I still have nothing better to do since my health issue a few weeks ago.

"We" know nothing of the sort...

*Huey » 09 Aug 2025, 7:13 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 7:13 am

Blackvegetable » 09 Aug 2025, 7:03 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 7:03 am

*Huey » 09 Aug 2025, 7:00 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 7:00 am

Lil One with Tiny Feet,

I have nothing to be bitter about, Mary.

Plenty, from the looks of it...

We could take a count, but we know how you hate that.
 


 

By al means, Tuco, fire away.  But we both know you rarely follow thru.

I'll wait. I still have nothing better to do since my health issue a few weeks ago.

 

 

Blackvegetable » 09 Aug 2025, 7:16 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 7:16 am

*Huey » 09 Aug 2025, 7:13 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 7:13 am

By al means, Tuco, fire away.  But we both know you rarely follow thru.

I'll wait. I still have nothing better to do since my health issue a few weeks ago.

"We" know nothing of the sort...



 

Waiting on that count, Tuco.

Blackvegetable » 09 Aug 2025, 7:16 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 7:16 am

"We" know nothing of the sort...

Not seeing a count.  I reposted that quote with link.  Take a stand, Lil One.

*Huey » 09 Aug 2025, 7:27 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 7:27 am

Not seeing a count.  I reposted that quote with link.  Take a stand, Lil One.

Do you see the "926"?

Multiply it by 20...

*Huey » 09 Aug 2025, 7:18 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 7:18 am

Waiting on that count, Tuco.