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*Beekeeper » 05 Aug 2025, 9:37 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 9:37 am

*Huey » 05 Aug 2025, 8:48 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 8:48 am

Also, please note the jury instructions.  I understand that reading is not in your wheelhouse but it is the last sentence of the citation.

Verdict and aftermath (May 2023–present)

The jury reached a decision on May 9, 2023, after deliberating for less than three hours.[132] Considering the preponderance of the evidence, the jury delivered a verdict that first stated that Carroll had not proven that Trump raped her, and next stated that Carroll did prove that Trump was responsible for a lesser degree of sexual abuse,[133] and also stated that Trump defamed Carroll with false statements made with actual malice in the October 2022 Truth Social post; thus the jury awarded Carroll a total of $5 million in damages from Trump.[54][134][135] The judge had given the jury "the narrow, technical meaning" of the term rape under New York law as it existed at that time, defining rape as forcible penetration with the penis as alleged by Carroll.[136][137][138][139]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Jean_Carroll 

The part that our boy @Blackvegetable  loves to leave out is this part the Kaplan ALSO wrote....

"The jury's unanimous verdict in Carroll II was almost entirely in favor of Ms. Carroll. The only point on which Ms. Carroll did not prevail was whether she had proved that Mr. Trump had “raped” her within the narrow, technical meaning of a particular section of the New York Penal Law – a section that provides that the label “rape” as used in criminal prosecutions in New York applies only to vaginal penetration by a penis. Forcible, unconsented-to penetration of the vagina or of other bodily orifices by fingers, other body parts, or other articles or materials is not called “rape” under the New York Penal Law. It instead is labeled “sexual abuse.""

But one must face the reality that BV is going to manipulate words to suit his OWN AGENDA DRIVEN BELIEFS and to do so is entirely DISHONEST on its face, and a lie in every underhanded, underlying way!! Seeing how that is the ONLY WAY he can manipulate anyone that wants to fall into his trap of lies and deceit.

ROG62 » 03 Aug 2025, 6:05 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Aug 2025, 6:05 pm

**** democrats... they will stop at nothing to obtain power...

Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post: [/size]
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...

*Huey » 05 Aug 2025, 9:54 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 9:54 am

Edit for post cont.

And as they say that is all that needs to be said about that.

ROG62 » 05 Aug 2025, 5:25 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 5:25 am

nothing to do with Trump...

*Huey » 05 Aug 2025, 9:01 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 9:01 am

Relative to the Summer of Love, hell yeah it was.  It was over in days.  How many federal building were attacked across the country and for how long?  How long was Chaz in place?  How many BILLIONS indestructon?

jerra » wrote:

01 Feb 1970, 11:18 pm

*Huey » 05 Aug 2025, 9:01 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 9:01 am

Relative to the Summer of Love, hell yeah it was.  It was over in days.  How many federal building were attacked across the country and for how long?  How long was Chaz in place?  How many BILLIONS indestructon?

and what president did they say they were there for and what signs for whom did they carry?

 

*Huey » 05 Aug 2025, 9:54 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 9:54 am

Edit for post cont.

And as they say that is all that needs to be said about that.

Blackvegetable » 05 Aug 2025, 10:38 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 10:38 am

*Huey » 05 Aug 2025, 9:54 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 9:54 am

Edit for post cont.

And as they say that is all that needs to be said about that.

You clearly don't understand 

the distinction between civil and criminal

"Special verdict" and jury verdict

the role of a presiding judge...
 

 

*Huey » 05 Aug 2025, 10:26 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 10:26 am

That has got to be rhetorical.   . But, if you want an answer I will be glad to....after you answerMY QUESTIONS that came first. Y are like Mr. Vegetable.  Real good at asking them, piss poor at answering them

Regardless, Jan 6th was no where near the level of the summer of love.

That has got to be rhetorical.   . But, if you want an answer I will be glad to....after you answerMY QUESTIONS 

Blackvegetable » 05 Aug 2025, 10:58 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 10:58 am

jerra » wrote:

01 Feb 1970, 11:10 pm

ROG62 » 03 Aug 2025, 6:05 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Aug 2025, 6:05 pm

Texas Democrats left the state Sunday in an attempt to prevent the state House from holding a vote Monday on new congressional maps that Republicans hope will net them several additional U.S. House seats in the 2026 midterm elections.

 The dramatic move could expose Democrats to fines and other penalties — with the state’s attorney general having previously threatened to arrest them if they took such an action. Refusing to attend legislative session is a civil violation, however, so Democrats legally could not be jailed and it’s unclear who has the power to carry out the warrants. 

 Democrats have cast the decision to leave the state as a last-ditch effort to stop Republicans who hold full control of the Texas government from pushing through a rare mid-decade redrawing of the congressional map at the direction of President Donald Trump.

 “This is not a decision we make lightly, but it is one we make with absolute moral clarity,” said Gene Wu, chair of the House Democratic Caucus, in a statement.

https://taylorvilledailynews.com/local- ... 005a467e45

**** democrats... they will stop at nothing to obtain power...

poor trump, he  has to cheat so he can keep the house.

• In California, Gov. Gavin Newsom is eyeing a November special electionthat would sideline the state's independent redistricting commission and ask voters to approve a new, legislature-drawn map favoring Democrats.
• In New York, Hochul said Democrats have "no choice" but to pursue a constitutional amendment to authorize new maps — though it wouldn't appear on the ballot until 2027 at the earliest.
• In Illinois, where the congressional map is already heavily gerrymandered, Gov. J.B. Pritzker has vowed to protect fleeing Texas Democrats and left the door open to further revisions of the state's map.

*Huey » 05 Aug 2025, 11:14 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 11:14 am

Know you hate gerrymandering so I look forward to your comments on these:

• In California, Gov. Gavin Newsom is eyeing a November special electionthat would sideline the state's independent redistricting commission and ask voters to approve a new, legislature-drawn map favoring Democrats.
• In New York, Hochul said Democrats have "no choice" but to pursue a constitutional amendment to authorize new maps — though it wouldn't appear on the ballot until 2027 at the earliest.
• In Illinois, where the congressional map is already heavily gerrymandered, Gov. J.B. Pritzker has vowed to protect fleeing Texas Democrats and left the door open to further revisions of the state's map.

https://www.axios.com/2025/08/05/texas- ... nia-newsom

JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."

jerrab » 05 Aug 2025, 10:11 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 10:11 am

you repeat your crap.

every thing to do with trumpasshole

JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."

ROG62 » 05 Aug 2025, 11:34 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 11:34 am

*Huey » 05 Aug 2025, 11:14 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 11:14 am

Know you hate gerrymandering so I look forward to your comments on these:

• In California, Gov. Gavin Newsom is eyeing a November special electionthat would sideline the state's independent redistricting commission and ask voters to approve a new, legislature-drawn map favoring Democrats.
• In New York, Hochul said Democrats have "no choice" but to pursue a constitutional amendment to authorize new maps — though it wouldn't appear on the ballot until 2027 at the earliest.
• In Illinois, where the congressional map is already heavily gerrymandered, Gov. J.B. Pritzker has vowed to protect fleeing Texas Democrats and left the door open to further revisions of the state's map.

https://www.axios.com/2025/08/05/texas- ... nia-newsom

They all do it as the party not in power gnashes their teeth...so stupid...
 

 

Vegas » 05 Aug 2025, 9:56 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 9:56 am

The best way for them to regain power is to simply do better by the American people. Just be better.

JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."

*Huey » 05 Aug 2025, 9:01 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 9:01 am

Relative to the Summer of Love, hell yeah it was.  It was over in days.  How many federal building were attacked across the country and for how long?  How long was Chaz in place?  How many BILLIONS indestructon?

JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."

ROG62 » 05 Aug 2025, 11:36 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 11:36 am

all parties do it gerritol...it just depends who's got the majority...    

jerrab » 05 Aug 2025, 10:11 am » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 10:11 am

you repeat your crap.

every thing to do with trumpasshole

ROG62 » 03 Aug 2025, 6:05 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Aug 2025, 6:05 pm

Texas Democrats left the state Sunday in an attempt to prevent the state House from holding a vote Monday on new congressional maps that Republicans hope will net them several additional U.S. House seats in the 2026 midterm elections.

 The dramatic move could expose Democrats to fines and other penalties — with the state’s attorney general having previously threatened to arrest them if they took such an action. Refusing to attend legislative session is a civil violation, however, so Democrats legally could not be jailed and it’s unclear who has the power to carry out the warrants. 

 Democrats have cast the decision to leave the state as a last-ditch effort to stop Republicans who hold full control of the Texas government from pushing through a rare mid-decade redrawing of the congressional map at the direction of President Donald Trump.

 “This is not a decision we make lightly, but it is one we make with absolute moral clarity,” said Gene Wu, chair of the House Democratic Caucus, in a statement.

https://taylorvilledailynews.com/local- ... 005a467e45

**** democrats... they will stop at nothing to obtain power...

jerra » wrote:

01 Feb 1970, 11:20 pm

ROG62 » 03 Aug 2025, 6:05 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Aug 2025, 6:05 pm

Texas Democrats left the state Sunday in an attempt to prevent the state House from holding a vote Monday on new congressional maps that Republicans hope will net them several additional U.S. House seats in the 2026 midterm elections.

 The dramatic move could expose Democrats to fines and other penalties — with the state’s attorney general having previously threatened to arrest them if they took such an action. Refusing to attend legislative session is a civil violation, however, so Democrats legally could not be jailed and it’s unclear who has the power to carry out the warrants. 

 Democrats have cast the decision to leave the state as a last-ditch effort to stop Republicans who hold full control of the Texas government from pushing through a rare mid-decade redrawing of the congressional map at the direction of President Donald Trump.

 “This is not a decision we make lightly, but it is one we make with absolute moral clarity,” said Gene Wu, chair of the House Democratic Caucus, in a statement.

https://taylorvilledailynews.com/local- ... 005a467e45

**** democrats... they will stop at nothing to obtain power...

the  republicans should show their social security plans to the people in texas.

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https://www.budget.senate.gov/chairman/ ... -cbo-finds

.The current budget proposed by the Republican Study Committee, which represents 80 percent of House Republicans, calls for $1.5 trillion in cuts to Social Security benefits over the next 10 years.  It would reduce benefits for seniors and raise the retirement age to 69, which would especially hurt low-income retirees.