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Cannonpointer » 07 Aug 2025, 4:26 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2025, 4:26 pm

Poor guys never buy jets. Or Rolls Royces.

And neither do rich guys - yet these items seem to sell.

Can yopu solve the riddle, Grasshopper? Wax on, wax off...

For personal purposes? No...for business? Yes along with all of the gray area in between....  
 

ROG62 » 07 Aug 2025, 5:57 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2025, 5:57 pm

For personal purposes? No...for business? Yes along with all of the gray area in between....

Yes yes - for business. 

Hey, I ain't no snitch - so don't try your reverse psybo on ME, ***. 
 

Cannonpointer » 07 Aug 2025, 4:43 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2025, 4:43 pm

As to "other priorities," can you name one that supercedes keeping our word to our seniors?

The contribution rate is already brutal - and it doesn't matter which pocket it comes out of, the employer still pays it against the labor of the employee. If the employee does not work, the SS tax does not get paid - so it's a tax on labor. Raising it raises the cost of labor - which puts downward pressure on wages.

A VAT tax is a horrible idea. The VAT tax is paid upstream from the consumer, so that the consumer is not only hit with the VAT tax, but with an obligatory profit on the VAT tax, since money has to get paid. VAT taxes are extremely inflationary.

A tax on trades discourages trading - that's axiomatic. Do we want to discourage trading?

The budget is bloated. DOGE was supposed to fix that , but it was a flash in the pan - another promise broken. Trump wants to give the pentagon - indisputably the most wasteful of all federal agencies - a trillion dollars. The 360 billion could be shaved off of that, and the Daddy Warbuckses could just **** deal with it. Should we REALLY be dithering about where to get the money, when we spend more on weapons than the next NINE countries combined. COMBINED! Are we REALLY under such a threat that we need to **** our seniors? How can we POSSIBLY be shipping money to israel and discussing stealing our people's social security at the same time? How is that possible - unless we have been overtaken by fifth columnists?

Trump is putting America second (at best).

So it's not the genociders that you support - it's the genocide. Got it. Doubt it - but got it.

I am not even sure most americans are aware of much america gives to israel.

jerrab » 07 Aug 2025, 7:31 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2025, 7:31 pm

I am not even sure most americans are aware of much america gives to israel.

Cutting israel off wouldn't save social security formore than a couple of weeks. 

But continuing to support israel while **** on AMERICANS in their golden years is so **** disrespectful that only a cocksucking democrat or an America-Second Trump Republican could rationalize it. I mean, WTF - nutless cocksuckers all. 

Cannonpointer » 07 Aug 2025, 6:42 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2025, 6:42 pm

Yes yes - for business. 
Hey, I ain't no snitch - so don't try your reverse psybo on ME, ***.

  that's MR *** to you...    
 
 

EDC4ALL! » 07 Aug 2025, 3:37 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2025, 3:37 pm

why didnt joe?

cause he handlers did not tell him to do it 

Cannonpointer » 07 Aug 2025, 6:42 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2025, 6:42 pm

Yes yes - for business. 

Hey, I ain't no snitch - so don't try your reverse psybo on ME, ***. 
 

How many ways can reverse psychology operate between 8.2 billion sole reproductions living in the same space of one atmosphere now. Series parallel existing one at a time by specific chromosomes not ideologies suggesting life exceeds hearts beating daily here.

DNA separates ancestral lineages, chromosomes separate generation gaps currently with beating hearts. A social mind is developed after birth with context within a specific vernacular tribalism training personal brains to believe life has to be more than genetics eternally separating current population native to this atmosphere. Name a [person discussing what one is compared to "we the people" demanding human rights to defend self deception until extinction.

Cannonpointer » 07 Aug 2025, 4:43 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2025, 4:43 pm

As to "other priorities," can you name one that supercedes keeping our word to our seniors?

The contribution rate is already brutal - and it doesn't matter which pocket it comes out of, the employer still pays it against the labor of the employee. If the employee does not work, the SS tax does not get paid - so it's a tax on labor. Raising it raises the cost of labor - which puts downward pressure on wages.

A VAT tax is a horrible idea. The VAT tax is paid upstream from the consumer, so that the consumer is not only hit with the VAT tax, but with an obligatory profit on the VAT tax, since money has to get paid. VAT taxes are extremely inflationary.

A tax on trades discourages trading - that's axiomatic. Do we want to discourage trading?

The budget is bloated. DOGE was supposed to fix that , but it was a flash in the pan - another promise broken. Trump wants to give the pentagon - indisputably the most wasteful of all federal agencies - a trillion dollars. The 360 billion could be shaved off of that, and the Daddy Warbuckses could just **** deal with it. Should we REALLY be dithering about where to get the money, when we spend more on weapons than the next NINE countries combined. COMBINED! Are we REALLY under such a threat that we need to **** our seniors? How can we POSSIBLY be shipping money to israel and discussing stealing our people's social security at the same time? How is that possible - unless we have been overtaken by fifth columnists?

Trump is putting America second (at best).

So it's not the genociders that you support - it's the genocide. Got it. Doubt it - but got it.

One of the ideas going around.    Guess there is an extra $300 billion laying about!

https://thehill.com/business/budget/543 ... rity-plan/

bipartisan duo in the Senate has been garnering attention for a pitch aimed at shoring up the solvency of Social Security. The idea, pushed by Sens. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) and Tim Kaine (D-Va.), calls for investing $1.5 trillion over the next five years into an investment fund that would then be given 70 years to grow.   “It is something to save Social Security, and to save the benefits flowing to the people, frankly, will either already depend on them or will depend upon them going forward,” Cassidy told The Hill last month. Here’s what lawmakers — and some experts — have said so far. How it worksWhile the senators have yet to release text for the plan, Cassidy said the government would create an investment fund separate from the existing Social Security trust funds, into which the government would place $300 billion annually over the next five years.   That money would be invested into stocks, bonds and other investments, and Cassidy said it would be held “in escrow for 70 years.”  “Any dividends being paid, for example, flow back into the investment fund. As that occurs, we also repeal the law requiring that benefits be cut to match income,” Cassidy told The Hill. The Treasury Department would be responsible for making up the payments for those 75 years, at which point the fund would pay back the Treasury Department and use its remaining funds to supplement Social Security payments, according to the senators.  Cassidy argued the plan would not add to the national debt, which currently stands at well more than $30 trillion.  “The reason is that if you have money in an escrow account, you could always just empty the escrow account and pay off the Treasuries required to do the initial funding,” he said. “And so, even though we’re borrowing that money, it does not increase our nation’s indebtedness and the investment income will exceed the interest that accumulates on the money borrowed.” Cassidy estimated the plan could “generate at least 70 percent of the borrowing required to pay the benefits over the next seven decades.”
 

Fuelman » 08 Aug 2025, 1:03 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Aug 2025, 1:03 pm

One of the ideas going around.    Guess there is an extra $300 billion laying about!

https://thehill.com/business/budget/543 ... rity-plan/

bipartisan duo in the Senate has been garnering attention for a pitch aimed at shoring up the solvency of Social Security. The idea, pushed by Sens. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) and Tim Kaine (D-Va.), calls for investing $1.5 trillion over the next five years into an investment fund that would then be given 70 years to grow.   “It is something to save Social Security, and to save the benefits flowing to the people, frankly, will either already depend on them or will depend upon them going forward,” Cassidy told The Hill last month. Here’s what lawmakers — and some experts — have said so far. How it worksWhile the senators have yet to release text for the plan, Cassidy said the government would create an investment fund separate from the existing Social Security trust funds, into which the government would place $300 billion annually over the next five years.   That money would be invested into stocks, bonds and other investments, and Cassidy said it would be held “in escrow for 70 years.”  “Any dividends being paid, for example, flow back into the investment fund. As that occurs, we also repeal the law requiring that benefits be cut to match income,” Cassidy told The Hill. The Treasury Department would be responsible for making up the payments for those 75 years, at which point the fund would pay back the Treasury Department and use its remaining funds to supplement Social Security payments, according to the senators.  Cassidy argued the plan would not add to the national debt, which currently stands at well more than $30 trillion.  “The reason is that if you have money in an escrow account, you could always just empty the escrow account and pay off the Treasuries required to do the initial funding,” he said. “And so, even though we’re borrowing that money, it does not increase our nation’s indebtedness and the investment income will exceed the interest that accumulates on the money borrowed.” Cassidy estimated the plan could “generate at least 70 percent of the borrowing required to pay the benefits over the next seven decades.”

That sounds like happy horse ****. Like they're giving wall street another tranche to steal. 
 

ROG62 » 07 Aug 2025, 5:57 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Aug 2025, 5:57 pm

For personal purposes? No...for business? Yes along with all of the gray area in between.... :ninja:  
 

Tropics and twilight; one is a horizontal equator between 8 seasonal shifts a year between 2 solstices and 2 equinoxes and the other is the grey separations of vertical dawn and dusk event horizons between midnight and noon 2 days a week passing intellectually same rotation of the planet.

Oops the deep dark secret humanity keeps from all ancestral lineages daily alive here now. The core of absolute power of suggestion suggesting genetics cannot be eternally separating each heart beating forward since conception, here now.

*31stArrival » 09 Aug 2025, 6:34 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 6:34 am

Tropics and twilight; one is a horizontal equator between 8 seasonal shifts a year between 2 solstices and 2 equinoxes and the other is the grey separations of vertical dawn and dusk event horizons between midnight and noon 2 days a week passing intellectually same rotation of the planet.

the deep dark secret humanity keeps from all ancestral lineages daily alive here now. The core of absolute power of suggestion suggesting genetics cannot be eternally separating each heart beating forward since conception, here now.

At least you aren't a flat earther.  If you where we be folded up into some dumb azz orgigami by now.

Earth can't be flat.  The Cats would have knocked everything off it by now.  Good thing we are eating them up because Earth might be flat by 2028.
 

Johnny You » 09 Aug 2025, 6:47 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 6:47 am

At least you aren't a flat earther.  If you where we be folded up into some dumb azz orgigami by now.

Earth can't be flat.  The Cats would have knocked everything off it by now.  Good thing we are eating them up because Earth might be flat by 2028.
 

8 hemispheres of reasonable doubt and your mind only defines life in 4 dimensions. That isn't my fault my brain navigates life equally alive as adapting in plain sight one sole displaced at a time in series parallel positions daily here.

Honesty is the best policy to treat others as one wishes everyone would respect evolving as just adapting to the moment here regardless which heart is your own and for every heart there is a single brain that evolved from the nucleus of its fertilized cell same chromosome combination since conception.

Never duplicated results you keep saying character is more than content of one's time inhabiting space so far. False pride in self deception combine by people wishing life was more than their sole position left alive daily here. Source of greed, corruption, chaos, confusion, misdirection, because everyone doubts all they been since added to a specific ancestral lineage and generation gap of current events.

Vernacular tribalism over genetic time displaced. You won't describe the original sin your own ancestry supports 24/7. Not my fault, I corrected my social who I think I should have been performance in 1983 behavior and nobody else has. I have been ridiculed 24/7 ever rotation of the planet by my own family, friends, work, recreation, social theaters of reality and I still remain civil with no desire to eliminate anyone that doesn't accept life for all it does in plain sight.

I describe actual evolving sequences. that is it. I do not direct everyone to believe anything I say, just ask they navigate space actually evolving as eternally separated now.

Karma takes care of those that won't. Balance comes from perpetual changing results never duplicated again.

*31stArrival » 09 Aug 2025, 6:58 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 6:58 am

8 hemispheres of reasonable doubt and your mind only defines life in 4 dimensions. That isn't my fault my brain navigates life equally alive as adapting in plain sight one sole displaced at a time in series parallel positions daily here.

Honesty is the best policy to treat others as one wishes everyone would respect evolving as just adapting to the moment here regardless which heart is your own and for every heart there is a single brain that evolved from the nucleus of its fertilized cell same chromosome combination since conception.

Never duplicated results you keep saying character is more than content of one's time inhabiting space so far. False pride in self deception combine by people wishing life was more than their sole position left alive daily here. Source of greed, corruption, chaos, confusion, misdirection, because everyone doubts all they been since added to a specific ancestral lineage and generation gap of current events.

Vernacular tribalism over genetic time displaced. You won't describe the original sin your own ancestry supports 24/7. Not my fault, I corrected my in 1983 behavior and nobody else has.

Pay attention to your wife before she goes Fully Nun for you and @murdock   starts screwing her.
 

Johnny You » 09 Aug 2025, 7:01 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 7:01 am

Pay attention to your wife before she goes Fully Nun for you and @murdock   starts screwing her.
 

I love my wife unconditionally. She loves me because I accept her even though she rather believe in what humanity gave her to live by cradle to grave. Optics, facts, possibilities her intellectual mind is greater than the time she was alive since conception.

I don't have to force anyone to accept life in plain sight. But everyone with reasonable doubt won't tolerate my understanding of living eternally separated now.

I control my instinctive rage by choice to accept all I have been since a fertilized cell. You won't, most people haven't tried because rule of law in every alternate reality eliminates anyone that does. Jesus was just a sole that accepted the natural process of adapting in plain sight. Nothing supernatural about him until Rome rewrote history(Mythological Paganism) when it became the first global church of Christianity still using mythology.

You paying attention to what the new Pope is doing within the church? I see it as another "sign" my silent Intellectual Armageddon experiment is working.

*31stArrival » 09 Aug 2025, 7:09 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 7:09 am

I love my wife unconditionally. She loves me because I accept her even though she rather believe in what humanity gave her to live by cradle to grave. Optics, facts, possibilities her intellectual mind is greater than the time she was alive since conception.

I don't have to force anyone to accept life in plain sight. But everyone with reasonable doubt won't tolerate my understanding of living eternally separated now.

I hear ya.. My wife doesn't like me either. Nobody does..  Byte Me..
 

Johnny You » 09 Aug 2025, 7:16 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 7:16 am

I hear ya.. My wife doesn't like me either. Nobody does..  Byte Me..
 

Love and hate are 2 polarities of one emotion, there are 6 others in the 8 hemispheres of life. There are 24 adjacent sides within this event horizon paradox. 6 degrees of separation, 8 corners of points of views by each pair of eyes navigating space daily here 2 parents, 4 grandparents each grandchild added one at a time.

Accountability of chromosomes within 8.2 billion humans daily here. My avatar adds another 2 generation gaps showing the universal constant of 30 previous ancestors manifesting 93.75% dominate chromosomes to each great great grandchild born daily here. Nobody else in recorded history has done what I did last 19 years.


The 3 perpendicular axses are vertical gaseous, horizontal liquid and mineral states of periodic element characteristics when combined into 4 dimensional inorganic universal positions perpetually balancing including this planet simultaneously expanding and contracting, rotating, revolving, being orbited by the moon, solar system spiraling in the galaxy, among the galaxies visible while rotation of the planet has the geographical half facing the universe outside this solar system as a body navigates life beyond its body's beating heart, now.

You don't respect what eternity is. I do. My wife believes in humanity, I know better.

*31stArrival » 09 Aug 2025, 7:18 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 7:18 am

Love and hate are 2 polarities of one emotion, there are 6 others in the 8 hemispheres of life. There are 24 adjacent sides within this event horizon paradox. 6 degrees of separation, 8 corners of points of views by each pair of eyes navigating space daily here 2 parents, 4 grandparents each grandchild added one at a time.

Accountability of chromosomes within 8.2 billion humans daily here. My avatar adds another 2 generation gaps showing the universal constant of 30 previous ancestors manifesting 93.75% dominate chromosomes to each great great grandchild born daily here. Nobody else in recorded history has done what I did last 19 years.
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The 3 perpendicular axses are vertical gaseous, horizontal liquid and mineral states of periodic element characteristics when combined into 4 dimensional inorganic universal positions perpetually balancing including this planet simultaneously expanding and contracting, rotating, revolving, being orbited by the moon, solar system spiraling in the galaxy, among the galaxies visible while rotation of the planet has the geographical half facing the universe outside this solar system as a body navigates life beyond its body's beating heart, now.

You don't respect what eternity is. I do. My wife believes in humanity, I know better.

Just ask Spock

youtube /watch?v=1eqYswiW4eo

Johnny You » 09 Aug 2025, 7:40 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 7:40 am

Just ask Spock

youtube /watch?v=1eqYswiW4eo

Science fiction doesn't explain the artificial missing link in evolution theory protecting the concept of space time continuum defined by 24/7 time management of the moment here.

Actual standard time of a rotation of the planet is 23 hours 56 minutes and 4 seconds.

Actual time a revolution around the star is a constant 365.2422 rotations.

Factual time management throughout history has leaderships commanding people to obey power of suggestion or else be eliminated from social outcomes cradle to grave regardless which generation gap achieved after birth.

Tyranny is making sure nobody changes their mind after nurtured to believe life isn't self evident time simply adapting in space now.

*31stArrival » 09 Aug 2025, 7:43 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 7:43 am

Science fiction doesn't explain the artificial missing link in evolution theory protecting the concept of space time continuum defined by 24/7 time management of the moment here.

Actual standard time of a rotation of the planet is 23 hours 56 minutes and 4 seconds.

Actual time a revolution around the star is a constant 365.2422 rotations.

Factual time management throughout history has leaderships commanding people to obey power of suggestion or else be eliminated from social outcomes cradle to grave regardless which generation gap achieved after birth.

Tyranny is making sure nobody changes their mind after nurtured to believe life isn't self evident time simply adapting in space now.

So is the Earth flat or not? If it is I hope it is try angular like a Dorito. Have you  ever had a threesome?
 

Johnny You » 09 Aug 2025, 8:56 am » wrote: ↑

09 Aug 2025, 8:56 am

So is the Earth flat or not? If it is I hope it is try angular like a Dorito. Have you  ever had a threesome?
 

level outside diameter of this specific planetary position universally present including everything here ever evolved within a generation gap of life never same details combined again. Water levels on the arc of the sphere gravity holds gaseous, liquids, mineral characteristics of combined atoms as molecular content in inorganic and ancestral positions universally uniquely here now. One at a time in series parallel displacement adapting to the moment where they(results) are geographically displaced geometrically part of the whole evolving process now.

the whole is equal to total sum of all its parts. Common event horizons sustains position established as balancing forward

Ever changing total sum currently changing form as original chromosomes since inception of ancestral lineages adding another generation gap one reproduction at a inhabiting space here.

Thermodynamic migration of eroded and decomposing results balancing what remains next so far. Not a mystery at all since it is a universal constant for each detail never same total sum individual results twice.

Balance is perpetual motion limited to content already inhabiting space. You pretend your brain isn't navigating space uniquely you. I accept all I ever have been is nothing more than equally timed apart so far.