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RebelGator » 05 Aug 2025, 6:53 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 6:53 pm

Around 13,000,000 times what you pay, get on rKelly's pity wagon.

This has nothing to do with me...

Grifty - decades of next to nothing

Mitten - 14%.

You're a **** idiot.
 

Blackvegetable » 05 Aug 2025, 6:54 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 6:54 pm

This has nothing to do with me...

Grifty - decades of next to nothing

Mitten - 14%.

You're a **** idiot.

And you're a liar.

DeezerShoove » 05 Aug 2025, 5:41 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 5:41 pm

And lots of folks NEVER reach the limit one time in their lifetime.
I always wondered about the ethics/moral dilemma of not paying rich people what they have contributed over their lifespan into SS.
If it's going broke and we're paying for illegitimate disabilities/hardship pay/etc anyway, why not set a limit for payouts to people who really don't need a measly few thousand per month?

that could be one fix. no sense in giving millionaires 3000 a month. capping social security at 300.000 for singles and 500.000 for couples would be fair.   coupled with a  small increase for social security

RebelGator » 05 Aug 2025, 6:59 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 6:59 pm

And you're a liar.

Post my lie....

jerrab » 05 Aug 2025, 7:15 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 7:15 pm

that could be one fix. no sense in giving millionaires 3000 a month. capping social security at 300.000 for singles and 500.000 for couples would be fair.   coupled with a  small increase for social security

But it IS a dilemma because there's a principle of fair play being violated...
...even if some poor folks get to eat.

Slippery slope.
 

Blackvegetable » 05 Aug 2025, 6:47 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 6:47 pm

Trump?

Don't be silly....he's immune from accountability.

He is the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ now doncha know
 

RebelGator » 05 Aug 2025, 3:52 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 3:52 pm

Why would we need cuts in benefits..... we're only $38 Trillion in debt?

Where is all that money? What is it doing?

The illuminati don't have no parties.. They just look at the pile of value and say "What a Great Day"

There are some who argue the debt is meaningless.  We can just claim bankruptcy as it is an acceptable financial mechanism thanks to unpresidented precedents like Trump.

Currency in itself is worthless.  Value is all that has any intangiable matter to it. If it slows down entropy and the eternal transformation to grey gas it has value. But a giant uniform cloud of grey gas oddly seems very ordered to me. The web of interstellar structures looks like there is a shytload of chaos out there somewhere and we are in there like swimwear,  

It dawns on me that currency is an ironic iconic word for money.   It don't do nothing if it is stagnant and does nothing.  I think of dollars as electrons sometimes.  We need to crank up the amperes.  A Lot of it is flowing into corrupt batteries under the  Trump admin. I am sure the cost per deportee has taken off like a Space X Heavy Lift.  Prepare thyself for Fireworks on the Carribean..  Arggghhh  Matey!

There is discussion the Milky Way is in a stellar void.  If Frank Zappa was alive he would probably name his kid that. It's gonna be stamped on my Social Security Check when I get there.

 
 

DeezerShoove » 05 Aug 2025, 9:12 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 9:12 pm

But it IS a dilemma because there's a principle of fair play being violated...
...even if some poor folks get to eat.

Slippery slope.

then increasing the amount that is taxed is the answer. but that may not happen. the republican plan is to reduce benefits which would cause hardship for many and raise the retirement age which will be disastrous.

 
 

Blackvegetable » 05 Aug 2025, 6:47 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Aug 2025, 6:47 pm

Trump?

Don't be silly....he's immune from accountability.

because he only wants his henchmen in office.

anyone who does not to what he wants he threatens.

many republicans did not want to pass the bbb and trump and mike johnson threatened them.

jerrab » 06 Aug 2025, 9:34 am » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 9:34 am

because he only wants his henchmen in office.

anyone who does not to what he wants he threatens.

many republicans did not want to pass the bbb and trump and mike johnson threatened them.

Threatened them with the Ire of Stupid....

jerra » wrote:

01 Feb 1970, 11:21 pm

The current budget proposed by the Republican Study Committee, which represents 80 percent of House Republicans, calls for $1.5 trillion in cuts to Social Security benefits over the next 10 years.  It would reduce benefits for seniors and raise the retirement age to 69, which would especially hurt low-income retirees.

 

Now lets look at the truth of the matter.  The below is linked off of your first link and is the actual summary.  You have been influenced to misrepresent theist of it. Isretirement age looked?  Yup.  And looking at auxiliary benefits for HIGH EARNERS?  Yup.  Will anyone at or near retirement be affected?  NOPE.

Section 8 - Make Social Security Solvent Again Spending on Social Security will grow tremendously between FY 2023 and 2034, from nearly from $1.5 trillion to $2.5 trillion.
The RSC Budget is committed to preventing 23 percent across the board cuts in benefits that will hit every Social Security recipient in 2033. Unlike the Biden budget, which does nothing to prevent these cuts, the RSC Budget would phase in common-sense, bipartisan reforms that have been narrowly tailored to affect no senior in or near retirement. These reforms would collectively stave off Biden’s 23 percent cuts to Social Security benefits and eventually make the retirement trust fund sustainably solvent. These include modest and delayed changes to the Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) benefit formula, the retirement age, auxiliary benefits for high income earners, and gradually moving towards a flat benefit. President Biden supported similar reforms during his tenure as Senator and none of these changes would affect anyone in or near retirement.

https://hern.house.gov/uploadedfiles/rs ... nal325.pdf

Bottom of page 4.

Nothing to see here.  Just a poor soul that was led astray.

TwoIfByTea » 06 Aug 2025, 3:15 am » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 3:15 am

He is the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ now doncha know

it has been mentioned on the news.

jerrab » 06 Aug 2025, 9:20 am » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 9:20 am

then increasing the amount that is taxed is the answer. but that may not happen. the republican plan is to reduce benefits which would cause hardship for many and raise the retirement age which will be disastrous.

You don't think taxing people causes a hardship?
 

*Huey » 06 Aug 2025, 9:37 am » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 9:37 am

Now lets look at the truth of the matter.  The below is linked off of your first link and is the actual summary.  You have been influenced to misrepresent theist of it. Isretirement age looked?  Yup.  And looking at auxiliary benefits for HIGH EARNERS?  Yup.  Will anyone at or near retirement be affected?  NOPE.

Section 8 - Make Social Security Solvent Again Spending on Social Security will grow tremendously between FY 2023 and 2034, from nearly from $1.5 trillion to $2.5 trillion.
The RSC Budget is committed to preventing 23 percent across the board cuts in benefits that will hit every Social Security recipient in 2033. Unlike the Biden budget, which does nothing to prevent these cuts, the RSC Budget would phase in common-sense, bipartisan reforms that have been narrowly tailored to affect no senior in or near retirement. These reforms would collectively stave off Biden’s 23 percent cuts to Social Security benefits and eventually make the retirement trust fund sustainably solvent. These include modest and delayed changes to the Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) benefit formula, the retirement age, auxiliary benefits for high income earners, and gradually moving towards a flat benefit. President Biden supported similar reforms during his tenure as Senator and none of these changes would affect anyone in or near retirement.

https://hern.house.gov/uploadedfiles/rs ... nal325.pdf

Bottom of page 4.

Nothing to see here.  Just a poor soul that was led astray.

simply increasing the amount paid to social security would save it.

pure and simple.

jerra » wrote:

01 Feb 1970, 11:26 pm

*Huey » 06 Aug 2025, 9:37 am » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 9:37 am

Now lets look at the truth of the matter.  The below is linked off of your first link and is the actual summary.  You have been influenced to misrepresent theist of it. Isretirement age looked?  Yup.  And looking at auxiliary benefits for HIGH EARNERS?  Yup.  Will anyone at or near retirement be affected?  NOPE.

Section 8 - Make Social Security Solvent Again Spending on Social Security will grow tremendously between FY 2023 and 2034, from nearly from $1.5 trillion to $2.5 trillion.
The RSC Budget is committed to preventing 23 percent across the board cuts in benefits that will hit every Social Security recipient in 2033. Unlike the Biden budget, which does nothing to prevent these cuts, the RSC Budget would phase in common-sense, bipartisan reforms that have been narrowly tailored to affect no senior in or near retirement. These reforms would collectively stave off Biden’s 23 percent cuts to Social Security benefits and eventually make the retirement trust fund sustainably solvent. These include modest and delayed changes to the Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) benefit formula, the retirement age, auxiliary benefits for high income earners, and gradually moving towards a flat benefit. President Biden supported similar reforms during his tenure as Senator and none of these changes would affect anyone in or near retirement.

https://hern.house.gov/uploadedfiles/rs ... nal325.pdf

Bottom of page 4.

Nothing to see here.  Just a poor soul that was led astray.

simply increasing the amount paid to social security would save it.

pure and simple.

 

Yo should have suggested that to Biden when he was cutting it OR when he was a senator supporting this plan.

pure and simple.


Look, you were misinformed.  Get over it.


 

RebelGator » 06 Aug 2025, 10:33 am » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 10:33 am

You don't think taxing people causes a hardship?

pray tell, what hardship will happen to people making over 300,000 a year?

jerrab » 06 Aug 2025, 10:49 am » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 10:49 am

pray tell, what hardship will happen to people making over 300,000 a year?

Their money is confiscated, it's not your's, so keep your filthy, greedy fingers off of it.

*Huey » 06 Aug 2025, 10:39 am » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 10:39 am

Yo should have suggested that to Biden when he was cutting it OR when he was a senator supporting this plan.

pure and simple.

Look, you were misinformed.  Get over it.

• you are misinformed.
•  
• ----------------------------------------------------
•  
• Proposed Plan: Biden's plan, originally outlined during his 2020 presidential campaign, proposed applying Social Security payroll taxes on earnings above $400,000 annually.
• "Donut Hole": Under this plan, there would be a gap where earnings immediately above the annual taxable maximum (which was $168,600 in 2024 and is $176,100 in 2025) up to $400,000 would continue to be exempt from Social Security taxes.
• Future Impact: Over time, because the annual taxable maximum wage is adjusted to keep pace with average wage growth, this "donut hole" between the cap and $400,000 would eventually close, making all earnings subject to Social Security taxes.
• Congressional Action (Social Security Fairness Act): Separately, President Biden signed the Social Security Fairness Act into law on January 5, 2025. This law repealed the Windfall Elimination Provision (WEP) and the Government Pension Offset (GPO), which had reduced or eliminated Social Security benefits for individuals who also received pensions from jobs not covered by Social Security (such as some public employees). This action resulted in increased Social Security benefits for millions of public workers and their families. 

In summary, while the Social Security taxable wage cap increased to $176,100 for 2025 as part of the normal annual adjustment, Biden's proposal has centered on adding Social Security taxes for earnings above a higher threshold ($400,000) rather than solely focusing on raising the standard wage base limit for all income. The Social Security Fairness Act addressed a different aspect of Social Security benefits for specific groups of beneficiaries. 

RebelGator » 06 Aug 2025, 10:54 am » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 10:54 am

Their money is confiscated, it's not your's, so keep your filthy, greedy fingers off of it.

boo hoo 

RebelGator » 06 Aug 2025, 10:54 am » wrote: ↑

06 Aug 2025, 10:54 am

Their money is confiscated, it's not your's, so keep your filthy, greedy fingers off of it.

admitting no hardship