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the republican plan to screw americans.
the republican plan to screw americans.
By jerra b
5 Aug 2025 2:28 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
6 Aug 2025 4:30 pm
Fuelman » 06 Aug 2025, 3:24 pm » wrote: ↑ With 110,000 employees, he pays plenty into SS.
Him personally? He probably pays self employment payroll taxes, to what degree I have no idea.
Edited for more accuracy.
that is company income not his.
6 Aug 2025 6:02 pm
Looks all perfectly legal to me. He may possibly pay zilch in SS taxes on his income.
Elon Musk's reported income varies significantly year to year, and a large portion of his wealth comes from stock options rather than a traditional salary. In 2021, he stated he would pay over $11 billion in taxes, which was tied to the exercise of stock options and subsequent sale of Tesla shares. However, his reported income can fluctuate greatly and he has been criticized for paying little to no federal income tax in some years despite significant wealth increases. Here's a more detailed breakdown:No Salary:Musk doesn't receive a cash salary or bonus from Tesla, but rather makes money through stock options. Stock Options:These options allow him to purchase Tesla shares at a predetermined price, and when he exercises those options (buys the shares), it can generate a large taxable income. Varying Taxable Income:In some years, like 2021, he exercised a large number of options and sold some shares, leading to a large taxable income and a correspondingly large tax bill. Potential for Low or Zero Tax:In other years, particularly when he's not exercising options or selling shares, his reported taxable income can be much lower or even zero, even with substantial increases in his overall wealth. Tax Avoidance Claims:
6 Aug 2025 9:08 pm
doubtful...
JuCo 5 percenter...72
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6 Aug 2025 9:11 pm
Blackvegetable » 05 Aug 2025, 6:49 pm » wrote: ↑ What were Grifty and The Mitten paying in federal income tax, Bootspittle?
JuCo 5 percenter...72
“Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA
"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom
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"Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
6 Aug 2025 9:15 pm
just another MSM misinformation rube...*Huey » 06 Aug 2025, 9:37 am » wrote: ↑ Now lets look at the truth of the matter. The below is linked off of your first link and is the actual summary. You have been influenced to misrepresent theist of it. Isretirement age looked? Yup. And looking at auxiliary benefits for HIGH EARNERS? Yup. Will anyone at or near retirement be affected? NOPE.
Section 8 - Make Social Security Solvent Again Spending on Social Security will grow tremendously between FY 2023 and 2034, from nearly from $1.5 trillion to $2.5 trillion.
The RSC Budget is committed to preventing 23 percent across the board cuts in benefits that will hit every Social Security recipient in 2033. Unlike the Biden budget, which does nothing to prevent these cuts, the RSC Budget would phase in common-sense, bipartisan reforms that have been narrowly tailored to affect no senior in or near retirement. These reforms would collectively stave off Biden’s 23 percent cuts to Social Security benefits and eventually make the retirement trust fund sustainably solvent. These include modest and delayed changes to the Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) benefit formula, the retirement age, auxiliary benefits for high income earners, and gradually moving towards a flat benefit. President Biden supported similar reforms during his tenure as Senator and none of these changes would affect anyone in or near retirement.
https://hern.house.gov/uploadedfiles/rs ... nal325.pdf
Bottom of page 4.
Nothing to see here. Just a poor soul that was led astray.
JuCo 5 percenter...72
“Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA
"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
6 Aug 2025 9:22 pm
the full 15%Fuelman » 06 Aug 2025, 3:24 pm » wrote: ↑ With 110,000 employees, he pays plenty into SS.
Him personally? He probably pays self employment payroll taxes, to what degree I have no idea.
Edited for more accuracy.
JuCo 5 percenter...72
“Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA
"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Libruls are often fascists on vacation..." 
6 Aug 2025 11:13 pm
Soc Sec is not going broke because it has to. It is going broke because they want it to.DeezerShoove » 05 Aug 2025, 4:06 pm » wrote: ↑ Isn't this just the prediction coming true?
Social Security is going broke...
Gee, where have I heard that before?
It's been so long that I forgot.
Must be Trump's fault.
It could be fixed any of a dozen ways - means testing, raising the cap, another percentage point in collections, a **** BAIL OUT, under the pretense that America's seniors are as worthy as the banks that were built on their **** labor. There are lots of ways to save the system - failure is only inevitable because failure is the PLAN, Has been since reagan.
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An opinion you won't defend is not your own
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When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
6 Aug 2025 11:15 pm
Before you slaves use the debt to put Soc Sec on the block, get off israel's dick.RebelGator » 05 Aug 2025, 3:52 pm » wrote: ↑ Why would we need cuts in benefits..... we're only $38 Trillion in debt?
Why should our seniors lose what they paid for while we are still funding socialism in israel, you **** America-second traitor?
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
6 Aug 2025 11:19 pm
That goo-faced little queer is fine with betraying seniors out of benefits they paid for all their lives, so long as israelis can still give their people free college, free health care, and support for their socialist kibbutzes on our borrowed money.Mrkelly » 05 Aug 2025, 5:21 pm » wrote: ↑RebelGator » 05 Aug 2025, 3:52 pm » wrote: ↑ Why would we need cuts in benefits..... we're only $38 Trillion in debt?cut payments in social security, raise the retirement age
but give people that make over $50, 000, 000 a year a tax break
yup … that’s how you fix it
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
6 Aug 2025 11:21 pm
Not paying the wealthy is just as immoral as not paying the poor - except for the part where the poor starve from it.DeezerShoove » 05 Aug 2025, 5:41 pm » wrote: ↑ And lots of folks NEVER reach the limit one time in their lifetime.
I always wondered about the ethics/moral dilemma of not paying rich people what they have contributed over their lifespan into SS.
If it's going broke and we're paying for illegitimate disabilities/hardship pay/etc anyway, why not set a limit for payouts to people who really don't need a measly few thousand per month?
At THAT point, it becomes the lesser evil. That said, I don't think we have to cut benefits for the rich OR the poor. There are other tweaks - and then there is a bailout. America's seniors are WAY too big to fail.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
6 Aug 2025 11:23 pm
So it ISN'T just jew cock - it's rich cock, too.RebelGator » 05 Aug 2025, 6:46 pm » wrote: ↑ Sure, they get a tax break..... instead of paying $10 million a year, they get to pay $7.5 million a year.
What do you pay?
Who knew? The kid's palate has a broader range than I suspected.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
6 Aug 2025 11:23 pm
That *** could shoot someone on fifth avenue.Blackvegetable » 05 Aug 2025, 6:47 pm » wrote: ↑ Trump?
Don't be silly....he's immune from accountability.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
6 Aug 2025 11:24 pm
So it boils down to shopworn midwittery.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
6 Aug 2025 11:25 pm
He is a liar, and you are a moron.
He could find Jesus and stop being a liar.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
6 Aug 2025 11:27 pm
You are quite correct -there is a principle being violated, and it is completely unfair. And it is a dilemma, for people of principle.DeezerShoove » 05 Aug 2025, 9:12 pm » wrote: ↑ But it IS a dilemma because there's a principle of fair play being violated...
...even if some poor folks get to eat.
Slippery slope.
I'm sticking with bail out. America's seniors are too big to fail.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
6 Aug 2025 11:32 pm
Raising the age is better than cutting benefits - and easier to justify. When SS started, 65 was the retirement age and the average life span was a few months shy of 62. This means the majority did not live long enough to collect it.That is no longer the case.jerrab » 06 Aug 2025, 9:20 am » wrote: ↑ then increasing the amount that is taxed is the answer. but that may not happen. the republican plan is to reduce benefits which would cause hardship for many and raise the retirement age which will be disastrous.
Mind you, I am not advocating - just bifurcating.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
6 Aug 2025 11:36 pm
Says the guy who supports sending billions to israel. With zero awareness of irony.RebelGator » 06 Aug 2025, 10:54 am » wrote: ↑ Their money is confiscated, it's not your's, so keep your filthy, greedy fingers off of it.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
6 Aug 2025 11:40 pm
If they are wage earners, yes. No doubt. But that donut hole protects those it would most severely impact.Fuelman » 06 Aug 2025, 11:29 am » wrote: ↑ Adding Social Security taxes to the Federal tax rate at those levels make it pretty punitive, up to 40%. Now pay all the other taxes on top of that.
Maybe not a hardship but would definitely suck for that group.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
6 Aug 2025 11:40 pm
HE looked like an idiot, you bigot! Respect his pronouns!
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
6 Aug 2025 11:43 pm
There is no denying this. It's wrong.MR-7 » 06 Aug 2025, 1:04 pm » wrote: ↑ Raise or Eliminate the Social Security Tax Cap
turns Social Security into a welfare-style program rather than an earned-benefit system. The cap exists because benefits are also capped—removing it without adjusting benefits proportionally undermines the program’s contributory nature.
Not as wrong as **** impoverished seniors out of their benefits, but still wrong.
I say bail out. America's seniors are too big to fail.
Would you be okay with reducing our aid to israel by ten percent - not because it would make much difference, but just because it would put Americans first?
I mean, for every dollar we take away from gramma and papa, can we just please take ten cents away from the objects of Trump's greatest affectionand devotion? Would you be okay with that?
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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