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The US Enjoys A Trade Surplus With Brazil, But Your Coffee Is Gonna Cost You Much More...Why, Children of MAGA?
The US Enjoys A Trade Surplus With Brazil, But Your Coffee Is Gonna Cost You Much More...Why, Children of MAGA?
By Blackvegetable
18 Aug 2025 5:16 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
19 Aug 2025 6:09 am
If you don't have the onions for the job, don't yap...RebelGator » 19 Aug 2025, 6:06 am » wrote: ↑ If you're too stupid to realize it, an explanation isn't going to help.
19 Aug 2025 6:12 am
**** you ya child molesting lying *** dick sucker. Shove the onions back up your mothers crack. I hides the tuna smell!
19 Aug 2025 7:06 am
Come, now. For politics you forgot all you had learnt of biology, and began peddling authoritiy fallacies as science.
A broken clock gets it right once a day.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
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If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
19 Aug 2025 7:07 am
It refuted your premise that he relied for his argument on right wing media duh.
He showed you a source that you respect saying what he had claimed.
Just walk it off, son. Everyone will be better for it.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
19 Aug 2025 7:17 am
I never liked the smell of coffee let alone the taste. I am not a consumer of any form. it doesn't matter to me. Just like what I understand doesn't matter to people of character role playing life isn't self evident time adapting in plain sight.Blackvegetable » Yesterday, 5:16 am » wrote: ↑ Has FOX told you?
It makes no sense, right?
C'mon, Idiots....find the courage to admit it...
Social consensus says I have to obey the will of the people never accepting life in plain sight or else.
19 Aug 2025 8:17 am
Stupid, please...Cannonpointer » 19 Aug 2025, 7:07 am » wrote: ↑ It refuted your premise that he relied for his argument on right wing media duh.
He showed you a source that you respect saying what he had claimed.
Just walk it off, son. Everyone will be better for it.
19 Aug 2025 8:53 am
Cannonpointer » 18 Aug 2025, 11:58 pm » wrote: ↑ It protects zero jobs, rights zero wrongs, punishes American consumers, alerts the world our tariffs are bullying tactics that are unrelated to trade issues, makes putting your eggs in our basket dangerous and unpredictable, and strengthens the case of those who criticize America as an over-weaning global bully. Tariffing nations on a whim incentivises businesses and industries which have historically lined up to do business with us to develop new markets and new trade relationships.The hobgoblin of global trade and finance is unpredictability. A bit of theater, some high dudgeon threats to bring people into line - these are a tolerable nuisance. But brutal tariffs out of nowhere on nations we have a surplus with at the expense of our own consumers just makes other countries shake their heads. I was HAPPY to pay more to bring American jobs home. I did not sign up for, and will not accept gladly, paying more without those benefits being achieved from my sacrifice. That's just not what I voted for. These are not the tariffs that I cheered for.
American consumers signed up to pay tariffs that were designed to bring jobs back to the United States from places that rely on slave labor. And we will be paying those tariffs - and that will be a burden. This particular tariff, like the tariffs on Mexico's agriculture, achieves none of the sanguinary benefits of the tariffs we were promised, while still requiring the sacrifices that I voted to make for good cause.
I have been an advocate of protectionist tariffs since the old board. I have never waivered on that issue - while others posting here were calling me a comnist for taking that principled stand. But the tariffs on Mexico's and Brazil's agriculture do not add a single job to American shores, while they will further inflate the already inflated cost of our groceries.
That's my reason.
As a layperson, I can only see what was a "**** me, I'm America" type open invitation to the world.
So trying to close down the whole thing as a first step may be a bit painful but perhaps not permanent.
Obviously the tariffs have a on/off switch. We've seen that already.
That's my admittedly naive yet hopeful view. Maybe it shakes some of the bugs out of the woodwork.
Temporarily "brutal" to everyone to show the real targets we ain't ****' around...
The Art of the Deal.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
19 Aug 2025 9:01 am
Blackvegetable » 18 Aug 2025, 5:16 am » wrote: ↑ Has FOX told you?
It makes no sense, right?
C'mon, Idiots....find the courage to admit it...
I would ask you to make a case as to why you believe it makes no sense (hence, defend your OP), but we both know how you are with questions. So it would be pointless.
1. Continue to refuse to defend his own OP, while drilling everyone else with questions/demands.
Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post:
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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...
From which you are running...
19 Aug 2025 9:18 am
Blackvegetable » Yesterday, 5:16 am » wrote: ↑ Has FOX told you?
It makes no sense, right?
C'mon, Idiots....find the courage to admit it...
No, the New York Times did. You ignore it. Here ya go again:
Instead, Mr. Trump is targeting Brazil largely for political reasons — the prosecution of Jair Bolsonaro, his ally, who is accused of plotting a coup after he lost the last presidential election.
Mr. Trump has called the case a “witch hunt.’’ He is also targeting a Brazilian Supreme Court justice he believes is unfairly censoring conservative voices online.
Yet the tariffs were softened by hundreds of exceptions, including on some of Brazil’s most important exports to the American market, which could make the effect on Brazil’s economy less severe.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/31/worl ... -lula.html
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19 Aug 2025 9:56 am
So where is Starbucks getting THEIR coffee beans, genius? In their backyard?Cannonpointer » Today, 12:08 am » wrote: ↑ Trump is not tariffing Starbucks Pumpkin Spice Oatmeal Macchiato Frappes.
He IS tariffing that can of Kirkland Colombian coffee you mentioned, though. 10%. It's going to cost you more next time you buy it.
You can expect it to go up by well over the tariff amount, as the tariffs are paid by the importer BEFORE the stores get it, and the importer will require a profit on that expenditure. Also, the stiffer Brazilian tariffs will ripple through the market, allowing those purveying coffees from other countries to add a bit of markup.
That is how business works - retailers are going to charge what the market will allow. And with 35% of our coffee being tariffed at 50%, prices across the board can be expected to spike hard.
You can google it if you doubt me - though you're going to want to read past the headline if you feel a sudden ill-begotten urge to "refute" me.
The tariff on Brazil is currently at 50%. In Colombia, the tariff is 10%.
Now, pretend you're a business owner who was previously buying your coffee beans from Brazil before the tariffs, but now their price is 40% higher than Colombia because of the Trump tariff. Do you switch suppliers or do you stupidly continue buying your coffee beans at the much higher price from Brazil? And what do you think Brazil will do when they lose a huge percentage of their coffee bean sales as the US stops buying from them and increases their purchases from Colombia?
You really are an incredibly ignorant buffoon, aren't you?
19 Aug 2025 10:32 am
DeezerShoove » 19 Aug 2025, 8:53 am » wrote: ↑ As a layperson, I can only see what was a "**** me, I'm America" type open invitation to the world.
So trying to close down the whole thing as a first step may be a bit painful but perhaps not permanent.
Obviously the tariffs have a on/off switch. We've seen that already.
That's my admittedly naive yet hopeful view. Maybe it shakes some of the bugs out of the woodwork.
Temporarily "brutal" to everyone to show the real targets we ain't ****' around...
The Art of the Deal.
, I can only see what was a "**** me, I'm America" type open invitation to the world.
Faith, Stands and Deep Thoughts...So trying to close down the whole thing as a first step may be a bit painful but perhaps not permanent.
Maybe...Maybe it shakes some of the bugs out of the woodwork.Temporarily "brutal" to everyone to show the real targets we ain't ****' around... The Art of the Deal.
**** maroon.
19 Aug 2025 10:37 am
Why is BV so afraid of this post:
Somebody is hiding behind PG again. Below is a direct answer to his question from a source he uses quite often:
No, the New York Times did. You ignore it. Here ya go again:
Instead, Mr. Trump is targeting Brazil largely for political reasons — the prosecution of Jair Bolsonaro, his ally, who is accused of plotting a coup after he lost the last presidential election.
Mr. Trump has called the case a “witch hunt.’’ He is also targeting a Brazilian Supreme Court justice he believes is unfairly censoring conservative voices online.
Yet the tariffs were softened by hundreds of exceptions, including on some of Brazil’s most important exports to the American market, which could make the effect on Brazil’s economy less severe.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/31/worl ... -lula.html
Somebody is hiding behind PG again. Below is a direct answer to his question from a source he uses quite often:
No, the New York Times did. You ignore it. Here ya go again:
Instead, Mr. Trump is targeting Brazil largely for political reasons — the prosecution of Jair Bolsonaro, his ally, who is accused of plotting a coup after he lost the last presidential election.
Mr. Trump has called the case a “witch hunt.’’ He is also targeting a Brazilian Supreme Court justice he believes is unfairly censoring conservative voices online.
Yet the tariffs were softened by hundreds of exceptions, including on some of Brazil’s most important exports to the American market, which could make the effect on Brazil’s economy less severe.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/31/worl ... -lula.html
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19 Aug 2025 10:37 am
Let me try to dumb this down even further...
What vital US interest is served by punishing Americans because Brazil is prosecuting one of its citizens?
What vital US interest is served by punishing Americans because Brazil is prosecuting one of its citizens?
19 Aug 2025 10:37 am
Blackvegetable » less than a minute ago » wrote: ↑ Let me try to dumb this down even further...
What vital US interest is served by punishing Americans because Brazil is prosecuting one of its citizens?
How many reframes is this now?
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19 Aug 2025 10:43 am
"Why" what?
Why does Trump want to demand more fair trade from the rest of the world after we've been taken advantage of for decades?
Why does Trump want to balance our massive trade deficit?
Why do we need the hundreds of billions of dollars of new revenue when our National Debt is over $30 trillion?
Most reasonably intelligent people can figure out the answers to those questions easily enough!
The question is, "Why can't YOU?"
19 Aug 2025 10:46 am
Zeet,Zeets2 » 19 Aug 2025, 10:43 am » wrote: ↑ "Why" what?
Why does Trump want to demand more fair trade from the rest of the world after we've been taken advantage of for decades?
Why does Trump want to balance our massive trade deficit?
Why do we need the hundreds of billions of dollars of new revenue when our National Debt is over $30 trillion?
Most reasonably intelligent people can figure out the answers to those questions easily enough!
The question is, "Why can't YOU?"
We enjoy a trade SURPLUS with Brazil.
**** idiot.
19 Aug 2025 10:51 am
Blackvegetable » 19 Aug 2025, 10:46 am » wrote: ↑ Zeet,
We enjoy a trade SURPLUS with Brazil.
**** idiot.
so….it ain’t about that
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19 Aug 2025 11:02 am
And who made the rules that say we can only raise tariffs on a country for economic reasons, you **** moron?Blackvegetable » 19 Aug 2025, 10:46 am » wrote: ↑ Zeet,
We enjoy a trade SURPLUS with Brazil.
**** idiot.
Isn't India and any other country that continue to buy Russian oil ALSO going to be targeted for a huge new Trump tariff if Putin continues his aggression in Ukraine?
Here, stupid. Try educating yourself for a change before uttering such ignorance:
Trump is wisely using the US massive economic superiority we enjoy to influence and put pressure on other countries like India and Brazil to do our bidding. And if and when they do succumb to our wishes, those tariffs can just as easily be reduced or disappear.Why Trump's tariffs on Brazil are more about political retaliation than trade
BBC 30 July 2025 Ione Wells
President Trump has framed these tariffs as retaliation over the prosecution of his ally, right-wing former Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro.Bolsonaro is facing trial over an alleged coup attempt after losing the 2022 presidential election, when his supporters stormed government buildings in Brasilia. The case includes claims of a plot to kill President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, who won the race.Bolsonaro denies the charges and Trump has slammed them as a "witch-hunt".
You don't like that?
WHO GIVES A ****?
19 Aug 2025 11:17 am
Why are we pressuring Brazil not to prosecute Bolsonaro, at the expense of the American consumer?Zeets2 » 19 Aug 2025, 11:02 am » wrote: ↑ And who made the rules that say we can only raise tariffs on a country for economic reasons, you **** moron?
Isn't India and any other country that continue to buy Russian oil ALSO going to be targeted for a huge new Trump tariff if Putin continues his aggression in Ukraine?
Here, stupid. Try educating yourself for a change before uttering such ignorance:
Trump is wisely using the US massive economic superiority we enjoy to influence and put pressure on other countries like India and Brazil to do our bidding. And if and when they do succumb to our wishes, those tariffs can just as easily be reduced or disappear.
You don't like that?
WHO GIVES A ****?
19 Aug 2025 12:26 pm
Finish the stupid on your plate, THEN order more.
By the way, it's rude to bring your own stupid. Classless.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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