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Cannonpointer » 27 Aug 2025, 6:42 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2025, 6:42 pm

It is zero percent EV, ****.

It's not a plug in, loud gay fruit. You don't plug it in because it's not an EV.

EVs are plugged in - hybrids run on gas.

Yeah.  You know better than Toyota who sold the car and they're wrong to call it a Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicle as they do, I suppose, huh nitwit?

2013 Toyota Prius Plug-in Review – Video
Auto Guide by Colum Wood  October 13th, 2020
 
Arriving late to the plug-in party and overshadowed by more statistically impressive cars like the Chevrolet Volt, the plug-in Prius hasn’t garnered much attention. That’s likely that reason it hasn’t sold particularly well.
FAST FACTS
1. The Prius PHEV is rated at 87 MPGe (miles per gallon equivalent) in EV mode and 49 mpg in regular hybrid mode.
2. Charge time takes 1.5 hours with a quick charger or 3 hours with a conventional household outlet.
3. The plug-in Prius boasts a 15 mile emissions-free range.
4. Pricing starts at $32,000.

 

Cannonpointer » 28 Aug 2025, 8:56 am » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2025, 8:56 am

You won't catch me badmouthing the Tundra - or any Toyota. 

But ya can't compare a truck to a sedan. They have different purposes.

yeah...trucks = comfort

hot rod roller skates = misery

Zeets2 » 28 Aug 2025, 10:01 am » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2025, 10:01 am

Yeah.  You know better than Toyota who sold the car and they're wrong to call it a Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicle as they do, I suppose, huh nitwit?

Jaggov, I know what an EV is.

EVs plug in. Hybrids don't.

You claimed that my 2013 hybrid was an EV. It wasn't.

You can run all the sleazy distraction games you want, little girl. My hybrid was still not an EV. 

Take the L, ***. Walk it off, and give Coach 110% next time. 
 
 

nefarious101 » 28 Aug 2025, 10:02 am » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2025, 10:02 am

yeah...trucks = comfort

hot rod roller skates = misery

I wouldn't call my Impreza a hot rod. 

It's a hatch back, making it easy to carry chicken feed and such. The seats lay down to let me carry lumber or small machines. 

But I will grant it is not as comfortable for long drives as a decent pickup truck.

Better than an old Mazda/Ford Ranger. But not exactly an F250 SD King Cab. 
 

Cannonpointer » 27 Aug 2025, 6:38 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Aug 2025, 6:38 pm

No

No.

No. You made it up. My 2013 was never advertized that way. Your mom was.  

Mine had no plug.

But whether it plugs in makes a difference. It's not an EV if it doesn't plug in.

Attempting to deny that fact is ridiculous and serves no purpose whatsoever.
Except to stave off your humiliation.

What, you mean you bought a $32,000 PLUG-IN car AND THEY DIDN'T GIVE YOU  A  PLUG FOR IT?!??      
I'll bet the dealer and the entire sales staff had a great laugh around the water cooler, talking about the idiot they just sold a car to who didn't get the plug for it!

2013 Toyota Prius Plug-in Review
By U.S. News Best Cars Staff  April 10, 2015

2013 Toyota Prius Plug-in OverviewThe 2013 Toyota Prius Plug-in is powered by a four-cylinder engine and two electric motors, which are paired with an automatic transmission. On a fully charged battery, the Prius Plug-in can travel up to 11 miles on electric power alone. It gets 95 mpg-equivalent in electric mode, and 51/49 mpg city/highway in gas/electric mode. 

Toyota Prius Plug-in Rankings

The 2013 Toyota Prius Plug-in's #5 ranking is based on its score within the 2013 Compact Cars category. Currently the Toyota Prius Plug-in has a score of 8.4 out of 10, which is based on our evaluation of 22 pieces of research and data elements using various sources.

I guess you also know better than the Dept. of Energy, who also call it a Plug-in Hybrid ELECTRIC VEHICLE, huh genius?:

https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files ... usPHEV.pdf
2013 Toyota Prius PHEV Accelerated Testing - September 2014

Four model year 2013 Toyota Prius plug-in hybrid electric vehicles (PHEVs) entered Accelerated Testing - one during March 2013 and the other three during April 2013 in a fleet in Arizona.

I'd sure feel even more stupid than usual today if I were you!      
 

Cannonpointer » 28 Aug 2025, 10:08 am » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2025, 10:08 am

Jaggov, I know what an EV is.

EVs plug in. Hybrids don't.

You claimed that my 2013 hybrid was an EV. It wasn't.

You can run all the sleazy distraction games you want, little girl. My hybrid was still not an EV. 

Take the L, ***. Walk it off, and give Coach 110% next time.

So you're trying to convince me that a car sold as a 2013 Toyota Prius Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicle IS NOT an Electric Vehicle and DOES NOT Plug in?
AND YOU BOUGHT IT ANYWAY?!!??!    

Do you even realize how stupid you sound?

Zeets2 » 28 Aug 2025, 10:49 am » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2025, 10:49 am

So you're trying to convince me that a car sold as a 2013 Toyota Prius Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicle IS NOT an Electric Vehicle and DOES NOT Plug in?
AND YOU BOUGHT IT ANYWAY?!!??!    

Do you even realize how stupid you sound?

It was an option in 2013, CP is a cheap bastard!

Yes, you can get a 2013 Prius without a plug-in option, as the standard 2013 Prius is a regular hybrid vehicle that doesn't require plugging in to charge its battery. Only the 2013 Prius Plug-In was designed to be plugged in for increased electric-only range, while the standard model's battery is recharged by the gasoline engine and regenerative braking as you drive
 

Zeets2 » 28 Aug 2025, 10:38 am » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2025, 10:38 am

What, you mean you bought a $32,000 PLUG-IN car AND THEY DIDN'T GIVE YOU  A  PLUG FOR IT?!??      
I'll bet the dealer and the entire sales staff had a great laugh around the water cooler, talking about the idiot they just sold a car to who didn't get the plug for it!

I guess you also know better than the Dept. of Energy, who also call it a Plug-in Hybrid ELECTRIC VEHICLE, huh genius?:

I'd sure feel even more stupid than usual today if I were you!    

I didn't have a plug in car, queer.

I had a gas powered car.

Keep deflecting - don't own up. 

I enjoy watching you squirm. 
 

Zeets2 » 28 Aug 2025, 10:49 am » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2025, 10:49 am

So you're trying to convince me that a car sold as a 2013 Toyota Prius Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicle IS NOT an Electric Vehicle and DOES NOT Plug in?
AND YOU BOUGHT IT ANYWAY?!!??!    

Do you even realize how stupid you sound?

it was not sold that way clown. It's a hybrid - not an EV.

Read it,queer:

AI Overview

No, the standard 2013 Prius Hybrid is not a full EV; it is a gasoline-electric hybrid with limited ability to run on electricity alone. However, if you're referring to the 2013 Prius Plug-in Hybrid, that version can operate as a plug-in hybrid, offering a much longer all-electric range (up to 15 miles) by charging from a household outlet.

I never said I had a plug in. You made that up. 

Plug-in sales were less than 10% of Prius sales inthe 2013 model, fruitcake. Also, they ran on gas - not electric. The fact that you could plug them in and get a whopping FIFTEEN MILES that way is irrelevant, you squirrel chasing little queer.

Just admit you **** up and walk it off, queen. 

 
 

Cannonpointer » 28 Aug 2025, 11:09 am » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2025, 11:09 am

it was not sold that way clown. It's a hybrid - not an EV.

Read it,queer:

AI Overview

No, the standard 2013 Prius Hybrid is not a full EV; it is a gasoline-electric hybrid with limited ability to run on electricity alone. However, if you're referring to the 2013 Prius Plug-in Hybrid, that version can operate as a plug-in hybrid, offering a much longer all-electric range (up to 15 miles) by charging from a household outlet.

I never said I had a plug in. You made that up. 

Plug-in sales were less than 10% of Prius sales inthe 2013 model, fruitcake. Also, they ran on gas - not electric. The fact that you could plug them in and get a whopping FIFTEEN MILES that way is irrelevant, you squirrel chasing little queer.

Just admit you **** up and walk it off, queen.

OK dickhead, I READ it!  DID YOU?!?
What does a "not a FULL EV"  with "limited ability to run on electricity alone" mean to you, nitwit?

Here you are for days now trying to prove that your car is not an electric vehicle, while every response you provide SHOWS THAT IT CAN AND DOES run on electricity alone!  And yet you want to try to claim that it can't be called an electric vehicle!

So just admit you **** up yet again and walk it off, queen!
 

Fuelman » 28 Aug 2025, 10:55 am » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2025, 10:55 am

It was an option in 2013, CP is a cheap bastard!

Yes, you can get a 2013 Prius without a plug-in option, as the standard 2013 Prius is a regular hybrid vehicle that doesn't require plugging in to charge its battery. Only the 2013 Prius Plug-In was designed to be plugged in for increased electric-only range, while the standard model's battery is recharged by the gasoline engine and regenerative braking as you drive

And that's fine!
The claim that CP the Idiot makes is that his car WHICH HAS TWO ELECTRIC MOTORS cannot be called a hybrid electric vehicle, as it's advertised.
 

Zeets2 » 28 Aug 2025, 11:35 am » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2025, 11:35 am

And that's fine!
The claim that CP the Idiot makes is that his car WHICH HAS TWO ELECTRIC MOTORS cannot be called a hybrid electric vehicle, as it's advertised.

Oh, I'd have to see his original statement. Calling his car anything other than Suzie will probably get you the Bernie Sanders finger.


No, the standard Toyota Prius in 2013 was not considered an electric vehicle (EV). It was a conventional hybrid electric vehicle (HEV), meaning it used a combination of an electric motor and a gasoline engine. Here are the key differences between the standard 2013 Prius and a true EV:
 Power source: A 2013 standard Prius primarily used its gasoline engine for propulsion, with the electric motor assisting to improve fuel efficiency. A true EV, by definition, is powered exclusively by a large battery pack and has no internal combustion engine.
 Battery charging: The standard Prius's small battery was recharged automatically by the gasoline engine and regenerative braking—it could not be plugged in to charge. A true EV, conversely, must be plugged into an external power source to recharge its battery.
 "EV Mode": While the 2013 Prius had an "EV Mode" button, it only allowed the car to operate on electric power for a very limited distance at low speeds before the gasoline engine would kick back on. This is fundamentally different from a true EV, which can travel for hundreds of miles on a single charge. 
 A plug-in version was availableFor the 2013 model year, Toyota did offer a "Prius Plug-in Hybrid" (PHEV). This model had a larger battery and an external charging port, allowing it to drive for about 11 miles on electric power alone. Even this vehicle, however, was not a pure EV because its gasoline engine was still needed for longer trips after the battery was depleted. 
 

Zeets2 » 28 Aug 2025, 11:31 am » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2025, 11:31 am

OK dickhead, I READ it!  DID YOU?!?
What does a "not a FULL EV"  with "limited ability to run on electricity alone" mean to you, nitwit?

It means no plug in, stupid.

It means it has a battery that it can run on for a few miles - AND THAT BATTERY IS CHARGED BY THE GAS MOTOR.

Zeets2 » 28 Aug 2025, 11:31 am » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2025, 11:31 am

Here you are for days now trying to prove that your car is not an electric vehicle,

No.

My car is not an EV.

YOU are trying to prove that it IS, and you are making an absolute clown out of yourself.

Zeets2 » 28 Aug 2025, 11:31 am » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2025, 11:31 am

while every response you provide SHOWS THAT IT CAN AND DOES run on electricity alone!  And yet you want to try to claim that it can't be called an electric vehicle!

Having an EV mode and being an EV are different things, queenie.

My car can "be called" ANYTHING. It just isn't a plug in, no matter what you say, and it does not run off the electric grid, as you claimed when this stupid **** broke out.

So just admit you **** up yet again and walk it off, queen!
 

Cannonpointer » 28 Aug 2025, 12:09 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2025, 12:09 pm

It means no plug in, stupid.

It means it has a battery that it can run on for a few miles - AND THAT BATTERY IS CHARGED BY THE GAS MOTOR.

No.

My car is not an EV.

YOU are trying to prove that it IS, and you are making an absolute clown out of yourself.

Having an EV mode and being an EV are different things, queenie.

My car can "be called" ANYTHING. It just isn't a plug in, no matter what you say, and it does not run off the electric grid, as you claimed when this stupid **** broke out.

So just admit you **** up yet again and walk it off, queen!

Hey stupid!
WHAT KIND OF POWER DOES YOUR EV MODE PROVIDE?
You think it runs it's EV mode on your brain farts, nitwit?

A car WITH TWO ELECTRIC MOTORS CAN CERTAINLY BE CALLED AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE, you dunce!
And a dope like you can call it a boat if you like!  That doesn't make it so!
 

Zeets2 » 28 Aug 2025, 12:30 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2025, 12:30 pm

Hey stupid!
WHAT KIND OF POWER DOES YOUR EV MODE PROVIDE?

My gas engine generates electric power and stores it in the hybrid battery.

DID YOU REALLY NOT KNOW THIS, you retarded ****?

Zeets2 » 28 Aug 2025, 12:30 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2025, 12:30 pm

You think it runs it's EV mode on your brain farts, nitwit?

My gas engine generates electric power and stores it in the hybrid battery.

DID YOU REALLY NOT KNOW THIS, you retarded ****?

Zeets2 » 28 Aug 2025, 12:30 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2025, 12:30 pm

A car WITH TWO ELECTRIC MOTORS CAN CERTAINLY BE CALLED AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE, you dunce!
And a dope like you can call it a boat if you like!  That doesn't make it so!

My gas engine generates electric power and stores it in the hybrid battery.

NO PLUG IN LIKE YOU CLAIMED.

DID YOU REALLY NOT KNOW THIS, you retarded ****?
 

Fuelman » 28 Aug 2025, 12:05 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2025, 12:05 pm

Oh, I'd have to see his original statement. Calling his car anything other than Suzie will probably get you the Bernie Sanders finger.

No, the standard Toyota Prius in 2013 was not considered an electric vehicle (EV). It was a conventional hybrid electric vehicle (HEV), meaning it used a combination of an electric motor and a gasoline engine. Here are the key differences between the standard 2013 Prius and a true EV:
 Power source: A 2013 standard Prius primarily used its gasoline engine for propulsion, with the electric motor assisting to improve fuel efficiency. A true EV, by definition, is powered exclusively by a large battery pack and has no internal combustion engine.
 Battery charging: The standard Prius's small battery was recharged automatically by the gasoline engine and regenerative braking—it could not be plugged in to charge. A true EV, conversely, must be plugged into an external power source to recharge its battery.
 "EV Mode": While the 2013 Prius had an "EV Mode" button, it only allowed the car to operate on electric power for a very limited distance at low speeds before the gasoline engine would kick back on. This is fundamentally different from a true EV, which can travel for hundreds of miles on a single charge. 
 A plug-in version was available For the 2013 model year, Toyota did offer a "Prius Plug-in Hybrid" (PHEV). This model had a larger battery and an external charging port, allowing it to drive for about 11 miles on electric power alone. Even this vehicle, however, was not a pure EV because its gasoline engine was still needed for longer trips after the battery was depleted.

From your quote above:
 It was a conventional hybrid electric vehicle (HEV), meaning it used a combination of an electric motor and a gasoline engine.
"EV Mode": While the 2013 Prius had an "EV Mode" button, it only allowed the car to operate on electric power for a very limited distance at low speeds

No one is saying there aren't many different versions of hybrid cars.  But if you're trying to claim that a car that CAN run solely on electricity from it's battery can't be called an EV, that's just absurd!  And I don't give a **** if you think it can't be called a "pure EV" or not!

Cannonpointer » 28 Aug 2025, 12:36 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2025, 12:36 pm

My gas engine generates electric power and stores it in the hybrid battery.

DID YOU REALLY NOT KNOW THIS, you retarded ****?

My gas engine generates electric power and stores it in the hybrid battery.

DID YOU REALLY NOT KNOW THIS, you retarded ****?

My gas engine generates electric power and stores it in the hybrid battery.

NO PLUG IN LIKE YOU CLAIMED.

DID YOU REALLY NOT KNOW THIS, you retarded ****?

electric power
Three times here you admit that your overpriced plastic car IS BUILT TO BE ABLE TO RUN ON ELECTRICITY!
And yet you continue to claim that it can't be called an electric vehicle!       

Zeets2 » 28 Aug 2025, 12:43 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2025, 12:43 pm

electric power
Three times here you admit that your overpriced plastic car IS BUILT TO BE ABLE TO RUN ON ELECTRICITY!
And yet you continue to claim that it can't be called an electric vehicle!    

AI Overview
No, the standard 2013 Toyota Prius is not a full Electric Vehicle (EV); it is a gasoline-electric hybrid that uses both a gasoline engine and an electric motor. There was also a 2013 Prius Plug-in Hybrid model that could be plugged in to extend its all-electric range, but it also still relied on a gasoline engine. Both models could use an EV mode for short-distance, low-speed electric-only driving, but they could not operate as a pure EV for extended periods or long distances. 
2013 Prius (Standard Hybrid)
 
 Now, walk it off, bitch. Give Coach 110% next time. 
 

Zeets2 » 28 Aug 2025, 12:38 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2025, 12:38 pm

No one is saying there aren't many different versions of hybrid cars.  But if you're trying to claim that a car that CAN run solely on electricity from it's battery can't be called an EV, that's just absurd!  And I don't give a **** if you think it can't be called a "pure EV" or not!

It appears you are both right depending on how you look at it. Splitting hairs on this one.

While the term EV can refer to any vehicle that uses electricity for propulsion, it most commonly refers to Battery Electric Vehicles (BEVs) and sometimes includes Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicles (PHEVs). 
 

Cannonpointer » 28 Aug 2025, 1:00 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Aug 2025, 1:00 pm

AI Overview
No, the standard 2013 Toyota Prius is not a full Electric Vehicle (EV); it is a gasoline-electric hybrid that uses both a gasoline engine and an electric motor. There was also a 2013 Prius Plug-in Hybrid model that could be plugged in to extend its all-electric range, but it also still relied on a gasoline engine. Both models could use an EV mode for short-distance, low-speed electric-only driving, but they could not operate as a pure EV for extended periods or long distances. 
2013 Prius (Standard Hybrid)
 
 Now, walk it off, bitch. Give Coach 110% next time.

Both models could use an EV mode for short-distance
Gee, look at that!  A car that you admit has an EV MODE that you think you CAN'T call an electric vehicle!  Don't you realize how stupid you sound?
Who'd have thunk it?

And where are the rules that say that in order to call a car an EV, it MUST be a "full" electric vehicle, you dunce?  
I mean besides inside your otherwise empty head?

Don't you get a headache from continually banging your noggin on a brick wall?
How many times in a week do I have to kick your dumb *** all over the lot before you learn to shut the **** up?