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Kirk frequently claimed that college was a scam. He encouraged people not to go. I agree somewhat. There are definitely degrees that have no business being actual degrees...such as 19th century Russian Studies. Many degrees offered leave students hanging out to dry...no job with insurmountable debt. 

However, he quotes a lot of stats. He cites many researchers/scientists ranging from social sciences to the physical sciences. But those researchers went to college/universities. 

Question: Did he think all degrees were a scam? I never figured that out.

Vegas » 25 Sep 2025, 9:49 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2025, 9:49 am

Kirk frequently claimed that college was a scam. He encouraged people not to go. I agree somewhat. There are definitely degrees that have no business being actual degrees...such as 19th century Russian Studies. Many degrees offered leave students hanging out to dry...no job with insurmountable debt. 

However, he quotes a lot of stats. He cites many researchers/scientists ranging from social sciences to the physical sciences. But those researchers went to college/universities. 

Question: Did he think all degrees were a scam? I never figured that out.

                 
 

ROG62 » 25 Sep 2025, 10:21 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2025, 10:21 am

               

You ok?

Vegas » 25 Sep 2025, 9:49 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2025, 9:49 am

Kirk frequently claimed that college was a scam. He encouraged people not to go. I agree somewhat. There are definitely degrees that have no business being actual degrees...such as 19th century Russian Studies. Many degrees offered leave students hanging out to dry...no job with insurmountable debt. 

However, he quotes a lot of stats. He cites many researchers/scientists ranging from social sciences to the physical sciences. But those researchers went to college/universities. 

Question: Did he think all degrees were a scam? I never figured that out.

There are/were literally 100's of Charlie's videos on YouTube, I think he can answer better than I can.

RebelGator » 25 Sep 2025, 10:30 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2025, 10:30 am

There are/were literally 100's of Charlie's videos on YouTube, I think he can answer better than I can.

I tried. The closest I found is a girl who asked him about AI degrees. Kirk never really answered it. He danced around the question. 

Vegas » 25 Sep 2025, 9:49 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2025, 9:49 am

Kirk frequently claimed that college was a scam. He encouraged people not to go. I agree somewhat. There are definitely degrees that have no business being actual degrees...such as 19th century Russian Studies. Many degrees offered leave students hanging out to dry...no job with insurmountable debt. 

However, he quotes a lot of stats. He cites many researchers/scientists ranging from social sciences to the physical sciences. But those researchers went to college/universities. 

Question: Did he think all degrees were a scam? I never figured that out.

 

I do recall a video or two where he was talking about it and asked the crowd how many people were forced to take classes that had nothing to do with their major. 

Here is an interesting article on the topic

https://fortune.com/2025/09/22/charlie- ... al-skills/

Huey » 25 Sep 2025, 10:39 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2025, 10:39 am

I do recall a video or two where he was talking about it and asked the crowd how many people were forced to take classes that had nothing to do with their major. 

Here is an interesting article on the topic

https://fortune.com/2025/09/22/charlie- ... al-skills/

Your article quoted Charlie saying this, which answers my question. Thank you, sir.

“I would say, very bluntly, that maybe if you want to become a doctor or a lawyer or an accountant or an engineer — which, by the way, is a huge minority of people that go to colleges — maybe you should go to college but pick the right one,” Kirk continued. “But the vast majority of kids, the vast majority of kids that go to college, shouldn’t be there at all.”

You see @Blackvegetable  . When you actually read something, instead of strikethroughing, you will observe that your questions are answered. If you do, you will stop embarrassing yourself. 

Vegas » 25 Sep 2025, 9:49 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2025, 9:49 am

Kirk frequently claimed that college was a scam. He encouraged people not to go. I agree somewhat. There are definitely degrees that have no business being actual degrees...such as 19th century Russian Studies. Many degrees offered leave students hanging out to dry...no job with insurmountable debt. 

However, he quotes a lot of stats. He cites many researchers/scientists ranging from social sciences to the physical sciences. But those researchers went to college/universities. 

Question: Did he think all degrees were a scam? I never figured that out.

Of course not. 
He does make a good point though, $1.8 trillion in school loan debt tells a story of how college isn't for everyone.
I owned my first home before my highschool buddies graduated. 

Check out this video from this search, charlie kirk on degrees worth it https://share.google/J7MeXYv9x7qgYMpCz

Check out this video from this search, charlie kirk on degrees worth it https://share.google/ChwnJBjI9FWSEvANb
 

Fuelman » 25 Sep 2025, 11:02 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2025, 11:02 am

Of course not. 
He does make a good point though, $1.8 trillion in school loan debt tells a story of how college isn't for everyone.
I owned my first home before my highschool buddies graduated. 

Check out this video from this search, charlie kirk on degrees worth it https://share.google/J7MeXYv9x7qgYMpCz

Check out this video from this search, charlie kirk on degrees worth it https://share.google/ChwnJBjI9FWSEvANb

I agree with 90% of what is saying. Colleges/universities scam people. I was just wondering his view about STEM degrees , such as engineering or med school. I wouldn't want a team building a bridge or homes knowing that their skill level is from watching a bunch of Youtube videos or Kahn Academy.

Vegas » 25 Sep 2025, 9:49 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2025, 9:49 am

Kirk frequently claimed that college was a scam. He encouraged people not to go. I agree somewhat. There are definitely degrees that have no business being actual degrees...such as 19th century Russian Studies. Many degrees offered leave students hanging out to dry...no job with insurmountable debt. 

However, he quotes a lot of stats. He cites many researchers/scientists ranging from social sciences to the physical sciences. But those researchers went to college/universities. 

Question: Did he think all degrees were a scam? I never figured that out.

College is a scam unless yer a non-leftist adult.  One common thread that runs through grade school, high school, and college.

They're all daycare centers for the left.

Vegas » 25 Sep 2025, 11:10 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2025, 11:10 am

I agree with 90% of what is saying. Colleges/universities scam people. I was just wondering his view about STEM degrees , such as engineering or med school. I wouldn't want a team building a bridge or homes knowing that their skill level is from watching a bunch of Youtube videos or Kahn Academy.

LOL....you'd want college graduate building a bridge?

RebelGator » 25 Sep 2025, 11:53 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2025, 11:53 am

LOL....you'd want college graduate building a bridge?

Ummmmm....yes. Do you want someone who only watch Youtube vids to build one?

Vegas » 25 Sep 2025, 11:57 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2025, 11:57 am

Ummmmm....yes. Do you want someone who only watch Youtube vids to build one?

No, I would want someone  experienced in building bridges....your college graduate joins a company and learns how to build a bridge.

RebelGator » 25 Sep 2025, 12:00 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2025, 12:00 pm

No, I would want someone  experienced in building bridges....your college graduate joins a company and learns how to build a bridge.

Well no ****. I didn't think that I would need to say that the grads would be working for a company. That is self-evident. 

Vegas » 25 Sep 2025, 10:22 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2025, 10:22 am

You ok?

Barely...good thing I wasn't drinking...




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Vegas » 25 Sep 2025, 9:49 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2025, 9:49 am

Kirk frequently claimed that college was a scam. He encouraged people not to go. I agree somewhat. There are definitely degrees that have no business being actual degrees...such as 19th century Russian Studies. Many degrees offered leave students hanging out to dry...no job with insurmountable debt. 

However, he quotes a lot of stats. He cites many researchers/scientists ranging from social sciences to the physical sciences. But those researchers went to college/universities. 

Question: Did he think all degrees were a scam? I never figured that out.

What is the purpose of a college degree?

Is it to become educated... then employable?
Or just to become educated?

DeezerShoove » 25 Sep 2025, 1:01 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2025, 1:01 pm

What is the purpose of a college degree?

Is it to become educated... then employable?
Or just to become educated?

Employable only. I'd hardly call most of them educated. 

Vegas » 25 Sep 2025, 12:13 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2025, 12:13 pm

Well no ****. I didn't think that I would need to say that the grads would be working for a company. That is self-evident.

That piece of paper in his hand didn't train or teach him how to build a bridge.....which was my point.

 

Vegas » 25 Sep 2025, 10:45 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2025, 10:45 am

Your article quoted Charlie saying this, which answers my question. Thank you, sir.

You see @Blackvegetable  . When you actually read something, instead of strikethroughing, you will observe that your questions are answered. If you do, you will stop embarrassing yourself.

Neither of you have degrees, right?


 

Blackvegetable » 25 Sep 2025, 3:19 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2025, 3:19 pm

Neither of you have degrees, right?

None of your damn business.