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jerrab » 30 Sep 2025, 3:30 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Sep 2025, 3:30 pm

-----------------------------------------Trump nominated Judge Cannon, a former federal prosecutor in the Southern District of Florida, in 2020. She was confirmed, with the support of 12 Democratic senators, by a vote of 56-21. In August 2022, Cannon was randomly assigned as the judge in Trump v. United States, a civil suit filed by Trump after a search warrant was executed and documents were seized from his Mar-a-Lago property. Trump requested that the court appoint a special master to review the seized materials and temporarily pause the Department of Justice investigation, and Cannon granted the request on legal rationale that many found highly questionable, and which the Eleventh Circuit later roundly rejected. The Department of Justice then requested that Cannon partially stay her order while they appealed it to the Eleventh Circuit, a request that she denied a few days later. Two weeks later, a panel of three judges on the Eleventh Circuit, two of whom were also nominated by President Trump, granted the emergency stay and ruled that Cannon not only abused her discretion in denying the stay but also incorrectly interpreted an “indispensable factor” such that she wrongly decided to exercise equitable jurisdiction over the case. Later, the Eleventh Circuit panel fully overturned her decision and ruled that the district court did not have the jurisdiction to consider Trump’s request, writing:

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The law is clear. We cannot write a rule that allows any subject of a search warrant to block government investigations after the execution of the warrant. Nor can we write a rule that allows only former presidents to do so. Either approach would be a radical reordering of our case law limiting the federal courts’ involvement in criminal investigations. And both would violate bedrock separation-of-powers limitations. 

https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/wh ... dge-cannon
 

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For justice to function and be trusted, judges must be fair and impartial to ensure decisions are based solely on the law and facts of a case, rather than on prejudice, personal interest, or political pressure.

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///////////////////////Judges must be fair and impartial, meaning they should decide cases without bias or prejudice, and they are required to recuse themselves (step aside) from cases where their impartiality could reasonably be questioned. This duty to recuse is a fundamental principle of due process and judicial ethics, ensuring a fair trial for all parties involved in a legal proceeding////////////////////////

jerrab » 30 Sep 2025, 1:41 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Sep 2025, 1:41 pm

the whacked out handwriting would be easy to spot.

If he had ever seen it, you mean.

You havepresented no evidence whatsoever that trump had ever seen that handwriting.
 

Cannonpointer » 30 Sep 2025, 6:42 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Sep 2025, 6:42 pm

If he had ever seen it, you mean.

You havepresented no evidence whatsoever that trump had ever seen that handwriting.

I am going with Rhubarb Jam with the Comey Toast

Blackvegetable » 30 Sep 2025, 9:37 am » wrote: ↑

30 Sep 2025, 9:37 am

You won't be so amused when you try to pay your rent with meme coins.

rent?  What rent?  I live with my parents 

Cannonpointer » 30 Sep 2025, 6:42 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Sep 2025, 6:42 pm

If he had ever seen it, you mean.

You havepresented no evidence whatsoever that trump had ever seen that handwriting.

https://www.adamsdrafting.com/lawyers-s ... ts-part-2/

An unusual aspect of settlement agreements is that sometimes they contain, under the notation APPROVED AS TO FORM AND CONTENT, signature blocks for legal counsel to the parties. It seems odd to have attorneys formally approve a settlement agreement. It’s the parties who are agreeing to settle—they don’t need, and shouldn’t seek, attorney approval. If the aim is to show that the parties had the advice of attorneys, it would make more sense to have the parties state as much in the settlement agreement.
 

Cannonpointer » 30 Sep 2025, 6:42 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Sep 2025, 6:42 pm

If he had ever seen it, you mean.

You havepresented no evidence whatsoever that trump had ever seen that handwriting.

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• Conflict of Interest Screening: 
  The law firm performs this essential step to ensure there are no ethical conflicts of interest in representing the new client. 
• Retainer Agreement/Engagement Letter: 
  Once the conflict check is clear, this formal agreement is signed by both the client and the lawyer. It outlines: 
  • Scope of Representation: What the attorney will and will not do for the client. 
  • Fees and Expenses: A detailed explanation of how the lawyer will be paid, including the fee structure and anticipated costs. 
  • Responsibilities: Each party's obligations and duties during the representation. 

roadkill » 29 Sep 2025, 9:14 am » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2025, 9:14 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfunazLSZcE

They'll do and have been doing to U.s citizens without repercussions and have been doing so for years now. 

Hank » 01 Oct 2025, 5:29 am » wrote: ↑

01 Oct 2025, 5:29 am

They'll do and have been doing to U.s citizens without repercussions and have been doing so for years now.

Comey is going to walk out like Kyle Rittenhouse into a Waffle House with a Bazooka.  

He is so hated by bith sides they just want him to go away.  It was just a useful perversion of diversion 5 days before the statute on limitations ran out.

There is a single prosecutor on the case..  She is flubbing it like flipper at a dolphin  brothel.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1AA4TRjjW8
 

roadkill » 01 Oct 2025, 9:03 am » wrote: ↑

01 Oct 2025, 9:03 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1AA4TRjjW8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74VAaPPbxxQ
 

Cannonpointer » 30 Sep 2025, 6:42 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Sep 2025, 6:42 pm

If he had ever seen it, you mean.

You havepresented no evidence whatsoever that trump had ever seen that handwriting.

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No, a client does not sign for their lawyer when signing up with a law firm; rather, the client signs the retainer agreement or fee agreement to hire the lawyer, while the lawyer's role is to review, sign, and manage legal documents on the client's behalf, after the client has provided consent for their representation. The client's signature on the retainer agreement formally establishes the attorney-client relationship and signifies their hiring of the lawyer---------------------

jerrab » 29 Sep 2025, 2:05 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2025, 2:05 pm

yep, trumped up charges, not a pun.

Prove your claim or shut your crack whore mouth.

jerrab » 29 Sep 2025, 3:33 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Sep 2025, 3:33 pm

name the cases.

**** you ****.

jerrab » 30 Sep 2025, 9:43 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Sep 2025, 9:43 pm

https://www.adamsdrafting.com/lawyers-s ... ts-part-2/

An unusual aspect of settlement agreements is that sometimes they contain, under the notation APPROVED AS TO FORM AND CONTENT, signature blocks for legal counsel to the parties. It seems odd to have attorneys formally approve a settlement agreement. It’s the parties who are agreeing to settle—they don’t need, and shouldn’t seek, attorney approval. If the aim is to show that the parties had the advice of attorneys, it would make more sense to have the parties state as much in the settlement agreement.

How much do you suppose ANY man's practiced signature resembles his handwriting?

Just think about if, FFS. I have seen men take five minutes to sign a thing, considering their signatures monuments to their public image and investing effort to demonstrate that conviction. Even folks who are not signature obsessed - and many are - will have a signature that is practiced and not at all comprable to their day-to-day penmanship. 

And what makes you assume that Trump ever bothered to GLANCE at his attorney's signature (IF signature there were), much less study the **** thing so that he would always know this particular attorney's scrivening?

The entire complaint is preposterous. EVEN IF YOU DISBELIEVE TRUMP regarding his recognition of the handwriting, it is STILL fair play to grant the doubt. The idea of making such a molehill the mountain you are willing to die on, ESPECIALLY given Trump's far more egregious sins that are NOT similarly in question, reeks of derangement and horribly skewed priorities. It would literally make a funny script - someone walking past a hundred felonies, kicking the evidence out of their path, to quibble over an extremely questionable misdemeanor. I think Saturday Night Live could use you on their writing team. 

jerrab » 30 Sep 2025, 9:47 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Sep 2025, 9:47 pm

Cannonpointer » 30 Sep 2025, 6:42 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Sep 2025, 6:42 pm

If he had ever seen it, you mean.

You havepresented no evidence whatsoever that trump had ever seen that handwriting.

• --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
•  
• Conflict of Interest Screening: 
  The law firm performs this essential step to ensure there are no ethical conflicts of interest in representing the new client. 
• Retainer Agreement/Engagement Letter: 
  Once the conflict check is clear, this formal agreement is signed by both the client and the lawyer. It outlines: 
  • Scope of Representation: What the attorney will and will not do for the client. 
  • Fees and Expenses: A detailed explanation of how the lawyer will be paid, including the fee structure and anticipated costs. 
  • Responsibilities: Each party's obligations and duties during the representation. 

And?

This has what if any relevance to the post you responded to?

jerrab » 01 Oct 2025, 3:32 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Oct 2025, 3:32 pm

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No, a client does not sign for their lawyer when signing up with a law firm; rather, the client signs the retainer agreement or fee agreement to hire the lawyer, while the lawyer's role is to review, sign, and manage legal documents on the client's behalf, after the client has provided consent for their representation. The client's signature on the retainer agreement formally establishes the attorney-client relationship and signifies their hiring of the lawyer---------------------

How much time does the law require a client to study the attorney's signature, and what expertise will studying the signature give the client in recognizing the attorney's handwriting?

Can a client be qualified by the court and confirmed as an "expert witness" on an attorney's handwriting, based on having studied the attorney's signature for whatever time the law requires?

How long has the law requiring clients to study their attorney's signatures been in effect? Was it passed by republicans ro democrats?
 

Cannonpointer » 01 Oct 2025, 7:47 pm » wrote: ↑

01 Oct 2025, 7:47 pm

How much time does the law require a client to study the attorney's signature, and what expertise will studying the signature give the client in recognizing the attorney's handwriting?

Can a client be qualified by the court and confirmed as an "expert witness" on an attorney's handwriting, based on having studied the attorney's signature for whatever time the law requires?

How long has the law requiring clients to study their attorney's signatures been in effect? Was it passed by republicans ro democrats?

Cycle times are drastically reduced by implementation of facism.  

Trump can photoshop MS13 on a Kilmar's knuckles and ship them to Estwani in 46 heartbeats.