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Zeets2 » 03 Oct 2025, 3:35 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Oct 2025, 3:35 pm

That's the way it looks right now, but 13 months is an eternity in politics, and there's still plenty of time for them to blow it if they're not careful.  But Trump is their ace in the hole, and I don't believe he'll EVER back down, and Congress can't pass a thing without his signature.

No more being careful. Trump knows that's no way to beat the dems. 

Get in their faces and never stop!!!  The dems are on the ropes...never let them win.
 

roadkill » 03 Oct 2025, 3:55 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Oct 2025, 3:55 pm

No more being careful. Trump knows that's no way to beat the dems. 

Get in their faces and never stop!!!  The dems are on the ropes...never let them win.

Oh boy.. how much popcorn do you eat?

The Generals  take an oath to the Constitution.. not the orange dickhead.
 

roadkill » 03 Oct 2025, 9:30 am » wrote: ↑

03 Oct 2025, 9:30 am

Dingbat alert...

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vlKh-vO_k4A

*SIGHS*
 

Zeets2 » 03 Oct 2025, 10:55 am » wrote: ↑

03 Oct 2025, 10:55 am

How come you're SO incapable of addressing the point on each of those videos?

Is it so difficult for you to come right out and state the fact that you FAVOR giving free healthcare to illegals as your Democrat reps are demanding?
Come on, Johnny!  MAN UP, and tell us you approve of that **** while health insurance costs are continuing to skyrocket for taxpaying Americans!

THAT is what the Schumer shutdown is all about, and Republicans will not budge on that issue as the country becomes aware of that singular fact, and the shutdown will continue till hell freezes over because I guarantee that once all voters become aware of that fact, THEY WILL MAKE SCHUMER AND DEMOCRATS PAY at the ballot box next year!

Your words.. not mine..

Illegals get no Federal Assistance.  The Debit Cards are Russian Hoax

roadkill » 03 Oct 2025, 8:40 am » wrote: ↑

03 Oct 2025, 8:40 am

Now it's the dems AND their media.     Trump hooked em, and now he's cleaning them.      

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5moNU-09nQ

If you think they flipped before wait until they see this...

I love the way Trump is trolling them but it's getting out hand, ok, it's Trump and he doesn't do decorum but he is still the president..

 

https://youtu.be/E-Tus_ch_aA
 

Jantje_Smit » 04 Oct 2025, 3:23 am » wrote: ↑

04 Oct 2025, 3:23 am

If you think they flipped before wait until they see this...

I love the way Trump is trolling them but it's getting out hand, ok, it's Trump and he doesn't do decorum but he is still the president..

 

youtu.be/E-Tus_ch_aA

4 Days.. AWOL...

Jantje_Smit » 04 Oct 2025, 3:23 am » wrote: ↑

04 Oct 2025, 3:23 am

If you think they flipped before wait until they see this...

I love the way Trump is trolling them but it's getting out hand, ok, it's Trump and he doesn't do decorum but he is still the president..

 

https://youtu.be/E-Tus_ch_aA

Cool...we used to do that song in the old days.        

roadkill » 04 Oct 2025, 3:29 am » wrote: ↑

04 Oct 2025, 3:29 am

Cool...we used to do that song in the old days.   

You sure can burn out the days and burn out the night. Is there no tax on tips at the Kremlin?

Between you is grey area..
 

JohnnyYou » 04 Oct 2025, 3:25 am » wrote: ↑

04 Oct 2025, 3:25 am

4 Days.. AWOL...

Eh, Trump isn't AWOL just because he doesn't appear in public for a few days, he's busy trolling you depressed libs..

 


 

JohnnyYou » 03 Oct 2025, 5:46 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Oct 2025, 5:46 pm

Your words.. not mine..

Illegals get no Federal Assistance.  The Debit Cards are Russian Hoax

Both claims are total ****!
The Fed gives the Medicaid and Medicare money to each state and THEY in turn pay it out to illegals, so don't try to dispel those facts by hiding behind semantics!  Is a hospital allowed to turn away any illegal who needs treatment? NO, THEY ARE NOT!

Care to deny these FACTS, Johnny?:

Government shutdown puts hospital funding in peril
Maya Goldman  Axios Oct. 2, 2025

Hospitals in rural and underserved areas could lose out on billions of dollars in federal funding if the government shutdown drags on.

 

NYC to spend millions on new round of pre-paid debit cards for migrants
By The Center Square July 3, 2024

 

Fact Check: Yes, Blue States Are Using Medicaid Dollars to Cover Illegal Immigrants
Oct 1, 2025 by Nate Ashworth
Democrats often repeat the claim that illegal immigrants cannot receive Medicaid or any public health insurance. They point to federal law, which excludes the undocumented from full Medicaid benefits, and present that as the end of the story.

But that claim is not true. In practice, Democrat-led states have built programs that mirror Medicaid, and they are using budget tricks and funding maneuvers that ultimately channel federal taxpayer dollars into covering illegal immigrants.

 

MASS INVASION: Illegal Aliens Are Being Given PRE-LOADED DEBIT CARDS and OTHER PERKS, DEPOSITED Into US Cities and Communities ALL ACROSS THE NATION at ALARMING RATE
Wealth Authority

‘Steel Truth’ host Ann Vandersteel reportedly said. “This is what our customs and border patrol have become. “We spoke to somebody today that works in the business here locally. And she told us that, in fact, not only are these people coming into the processing center, but they’re given $200 debit cards and a free plane ticket to anywhere they want to go in the country. After Democrats lost a fight in Congress to hand out taxpayer-funded stimulus checks regardless of citizenship or status, Biden’s cronies found another scheme to fund the lifestyles of illegals. Border patrol officers who capture migrants in the desert and remote areas must bring them back for processing. During the interview, they are provided health care, food, debit cards, plane tickets, hotel accommodations, and a shiny Social Security number. That Social Security number now entitles non-citizens to receive stimulus money, welfare, and every conceivable entitlement to live in America free of charge.

 

Biden Admin. Sends Millions to Religious Nonprofits Facilitating Mass Illegal Migration
By Todd Bensman  January 30, 2024 UN-provided debit cards issued to immigrants in Reynosa, Mexico, in 2021.

AUSTIN, Texas — As the Center for Immigration Studies recently reported, a United Nations-led “Regional Refugee and Migrant Response Plan” calls for more than 200 nonprofit groups to dole out $1.6 billion in cash debit cards, food, clothing, medical treatment, shelter, and even “humanitarian transportation” during 2024 to millions of US-bound immigrants in 17 Latin American nations and Mexico.

Are you really that unaware of the fungibility of money or how it's doled out through government channels Johnny?

 
 

Zeets2 » 03 Oct 2025, 3:35 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Oct 2025, 3:35 pm

That's the way it looks right now, but 13 months is an eternity in politics, and there's still plenty of time for them to blow it if they're not careful.  But Trump is their ace in the hole, and I don't believe he'll EVER back down, and Congress can't pass a thing without his signature.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCjkrc1HJeo
 

JohnnyYou » 03 Oct 2025, 5:46 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Oct 2025, 5:46 pm

Your words.. not mine..

Illegals get no Federal Assistance.  The Debit Cards are Russian Hoax

An idiot is worse than a moron, though you have both bases covered.....add some drug abuse on top for good measure.

RebelGator » 05 Oct 2025, 5:05 am » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2025, 5:05 am

An idiot is worse than a moron, though you have both bases covered.....add some drug abuse on top for good measure.

Johnny's girlfriend...

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tirspt_Syiw
 

RebelGator » 05 Oct 2025, 5:05 am » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2025, 5:05 am

An idiot is worse than a moron, though you have both bases covered.....add some drug abuse on top for good measure.

Walkin' on the Sun and choking on Trump's Cum


It ain't no joke, I'd like to buy the world a toke
And teach the world to sing in perfect harmony
And teach the world to snuff the fires and the liars
Hey, I know it's just a song, but it's spice for the recipe
This is a love attack, I know it went out, but it's back
It's just like any fad, it retracts before impact
And just like fashion it's a passion for the with-it and hip
If you got the goods, they'll come and buy it
Just to stay in the clique
So don't delay, act now, supplies are running out
Allow if you're still alive, six to eight years to arrive
And if you follow there may be a tomorrow
But if the offer's shunned
You might as well be choking on Trump's cum
Twenty-five years ago, they spoke out and they broke out
Of recession and oppression and together they toked
And they folked out with guitars around a bonfire
Just singin' and clappin', man, what the hell happened?
Then some were spellbound, some were hellbound
Some, they fell down and some got back up
And fought back against the meltdown
And their kids were hippie chicks, all hypocrites
Because fashion is smashing the true meaning of it
So don't delay, act now, supplies are running out
Allow if you're still alive, six to eight years to arrive
And if you follow, there may be a tomorrow
But if the offer's shunned
You might as well be choking on Trump's cum
It ain't no joke when a mama's handkerchief is soaked
With her tears because her baby's life has been revoked
The bond is broke up, so choke up and focus on the close up
Mr. Wizard can't perform no god-like hocus-pocus
So don't sit back, kick back and watch the world get bushwhacked
News at ten, your neighborhood is under attack
Put away the crack before the crack puts you away
You need to be there when your baby's old enough to relate
So don't delay, act now, supplies are running out
Allow if you're still alive, six to eight years to arrive
And if you follow, there may be a tomorrow
But if the offer's shunned
You might as well be choking on Trump's cum
You might as well be choking on Trump's cum
You might as well be choking on Trump's cum
You might as well be choking on Trump's cum
You might as well be choking on Trump's cum

JohnnyYou » 03 Oct 2025, 5:46 pm » wrote: ↑

03 Oct 2025, 5:46 pm

Illegals get no Federal Assistance.  The Debit Cards are Russian Hoax

Are you really that ignorant and don't know that the FED pays the vast majority of Medicaid or that it hasn't paid BILLIONS in funding for illegals?:

Medicaid spent $16.2B on emergency care for undocumented immigrants, CBO says
MSN by Andrea Arlett Nabor Herrera
The Congressional Budget Office, a non-partisan entity, has revealed that Medicaid allocated $16.2 billion for emergency medical services to undocumented immigrants over the initial 3 years of the Biden administration. This expenditure, funded by both federal and state taxpayers, highlights a significant increase in spending compared to the previous administration

Deny FEMA paid billions to illegals?  Isn't FEMA the FEDERAL Emergency Management Agency?  Here's what Mayorkis directed spending for in 2024, after claiming FEMA was out of money to help US disaster victims:

FEMA Tapped Out for Hurricane Recovery as GOP Points to $1B Spent on Migrants
Newsweek Oct 03, 2024 
 HSS Secretary Mayorkas said there is not enough money for the Federal Emergency Management Agency to meet the needs of communities affected by Hurricane Helene, which has killed more than 160 people. The funding shortfall has come under scrutiny at a time when at least $640 million in FEMA funding is being spent on assisting communities across the country dealing with an influx of migrants. The Shelter and Services Program provides funding to non-federal agencies to spend on services for non-U.S. citizens.

 

FEMA says it’s halting payments for migrant housing in NY after Musk blasts money for hotels
AP By  REBECCA SANTANA Feb 10, 2025
Musk, as head of the DOGE has consolidated control over much of the federal government and is working to cut costs, posted that his team “just discovered that FEMA sent $59M LAST WEEK to luxury hotels in NYC to house illegal migrants.” 

Now, add to those facts to the knowledge that ALL HOSPITALS MUST TREAT ILLEGALS BY LAW, and hospitals ALL receive federal funds through Medicare?

Still believe US taxpayers are not paying billions to give free debit cards to illegals simply because it's been directed by the UN (for which we fund with $13 BILLION per year) and not directly from our fed?:
Here's the proof:

Don’t believe the lies: The UN is paying illegals using US taxpayer cash
By Todd Bensman NY Post Jan. 22, 2024

A migrant holding up debit card given him by the UN

The UN’s just released the 2024 “Inter-Agency Coordination Platform for Refugees and Migrants from Venezuela”, a planning and budget document for handing out $1.6 billion in 17 Latin America countries. It confirms the UN, is indeed giving debit cards to illegal migrants — funded, in large part by US taxpayers.

Care to retract the ignorance you uttered before, or will you just run away from another bitch slapping as most liberals here do?

 
 

Zeets2 » 05 Oct 2025, 11:29 am » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2025, 11:29 am

Are you really that ignorant and don't know that the FED pays the vast majority of Medicaid or that it hasn't paid BILLIONS in funding for illegals?:



Still believe US taxpayers are not paying billions to give free debit cards to illegals simply because it's been directed by the UN (for which we fund with $13 BILLION per year) and not directly from our fed?:
Here's the proof:

Care to retract the ignorance you uttered before, or will you just run away from another bitch slapping as most liberals here do?

All righty then it looks a few billion eeked through.  

Pertaining to the vote for the shutdown,  I hear democrats saying they are not holding up the CR for funding for health care for illegal undocumented immigrants.  How one would even get paid health care with out some kind of document is beyond belief.  The evil drug gang farm hands and meat butchers were paying taxes with green cards before you wrecked all that shyt. Except in Nebraska..  They didn't care for decades and made more profit paying illegals under the table toshovel shyt.  It's super **** farmers in to bankruptcy.

Your debit card argument checks out..

Yes,  no spam  agencies provide financial assistance to eligible immigrants and refugees, and this often includes providing funds through debit or cash cards. This aid, called "cash-based interventions" (CBIs), allows vulnerable people to buy essential goods and services locally, which is more cost-effective and gives them more dignity and choice. 
UN agencies that provide cash assistance

• UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR): This agency provides multi-purpose cash assistance to the most vulnerable refugees and asylum-seekers to help them cover basic needs like food, rent, and healthcare. The aid is often distributed via loaded debit cards or directly to a bank or mobile account.
• no spam : IOM also uses cash-based interventions to provide humanitarian assistance to vulnerable migrants and displaced people. In 2023 alone, the IOM provided cash aid to nearly 4 million people across 112 countries.
• World Food Programme (WFP): The WFP uses electronic food vouchers, often delivered as debit or e-cards, in places where food is available in local markets but is unaffordable for vulnerable people. This allows families to purchase food from local shops. 

How the system works

• Eligibility and assessment: To receive assistance, individuals must be identified as vulnerable through an assessment conducted by UNHCR, IOM, or their partner organizations. In some countries, factors like household size, disability, or single parenthood may determine eligibility.
• Funding and distribution: UN cash assistance is funded by international donors, including member states. The funds are disbursed in various ways, such as:
  • Prepaid debit or cash cards: The cards are loaded with funds, giving recipients the flexibility to make purchases.
  • Mobile money: In remote areas, funds can be sent via text message for withdrawal at a local agent.
  • Existing banking systems: In areas with financial infrastructure, funds may be deposited directly into a bank account.
• Purpose and restrictions: The cash assistance is intended to be a transitional safety net to help cover immediate basic needs. The amount and duration of the aid are limited and can vary by country. Some programs, like New York City's debit card program for migrants, have specific restrictions on what can be purchased with the cards. 

 

JohnnyYou » 05 Oct 2025, 11:39 am » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2025, 11:39 am

All righty then it looks a few billion eeked through.  

Pertaining to the vote for the shutdown,  I hear democrats saying they are not holding up the CR for funding for health care for illegal undocumented immigrants.  How one would even get paid health care with out some kind of document is beyond belief.  The evil drug gang farm hands and meat butchers were paying taxes with green cards before you wrecked all that shyt. Except in Nebraska..  They didn't care for decades and made more profit paying illegals under the table toshovel shyt.  It's super **** farmers in to bankruptcy.

Your debit card argument checks out..
 

OF COURSE they can't admit that, you fool!  Even Democrats aren't dumb enough to know that doing so would doom their nominees in next year's election!
But here's the facts on what they want Republicans to agree to before they will allow the government to be reopened:

Senate Democrats are demanding $1.5 trillion in spending increases to end the shutdown and:

• Revoke $50 billion in rural health care funding
• Restore Biden-era free healthcare for illegal aliens
• Expand taxpayer-funded Medicaid to unemployed, able-bodied individuals without dependents under 14 years old
• Eliminate Republican-passed fraud protections for taxpayer benefits like Medicaid and SNAP 

So will you now also admit that giving in to Schumer would gut the current laws the Democrats signed on to in Trump's last budget deal?
It is NOT up to Republicans to rescue Obama from his lies or about the obvious failures of Obamacare!  
Democrats GOT the "universal healthcare plan" they wanted WITHOUT A SINGLE REPUBLICAN VOTE, and now they want Republicans to save it with trillions more spending?
  
WELL, TOO **** BAD!!!

Just wait till Trump starts cutting a few thousand Democrat federal workers' jobs this week, as he's entitled to do right now!
Think you've heard liberals wailing and whining before?   HA!!!

You ain't heard NOTHING yet!

 

Zeets2 » 05 Oct 2025, 12:21 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2025, 12:21 pm

OF COURSE they can't admit that, you fool!  Even Democrats aren't dumb enough to know that doing so would doom their nominees in next year's election!
But here's the facts on what they want Republicans to agree to before they will allow the government to be reopened:

So will you now also admit that giving in to Schumer would gut the current laws the Democrats signed on to in Trump's last budget deal?
It is NOT up to Republicans to rescue Obama from his lies or about the obvious failures of Obamacare!  
Democrats GOT the "universal healthcare plan" they wanted WITHOUT A SINGLE REPUBLICAN VOTE, and now they want Republicans to save it with trillions more spending?
  
WELL, TOO **** BAD!!!

Just wait till Trump starts cutting a few thousand Democrat federal workers' jobs this week, as he's entitled to do right now!
Think you've heard liberals wailing and whining before?   HA!!!

You ain't heard NOTHING yet!

Yeah and no jobs or economics reports.. They're closed.  MD and Virginia are going ot have a crap load of people without jobs.  I bet not all of them are democrats. I don't claim to understand how this all going to ripple out, but I can tell you there will be impacts. You think they'll be good.  I see bad shyt happening all the time.  Especially every time I go in the grocery store.

I forgive you.. you know not what you do.  You are full of hate and discontent.
 

JohnnyYou » 05 Oct 2025, 4:54 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Oct 2025, 4:54 pm

Yeah and no jobs or economics reports.. They're closed.  MD and Virginia are going ot have a crap load of people without jobs.  I bet not all of them are democrats. I don't claim to understand how this all going to ripple out, but I can tell you there will be impacts. You think they'll be good.  I see bad shyt happening all the time.  Especially every time I go in the grocery store.

I forgive you.. you know not what you do.  You are full of hate and discontent.

So NOW, you're suddenly worried about rising prices in a grocery store, but not a **** peep out of you when Biden drove inflation up to 9.1% which crushed the economy and sent gas and grocery prices through the roof?  Sorry fool, but your words have ZERO credibility based on your completely partisan ****!  And that includes your ridiculous assessment of my own level of hate and discontent when it's leftists like YOU who have been fomenting such hatred towards Trump, towards, ICE, and to our own laws and the Constitution!

Why don't you come right out and admit that it's YOUR LEFT-WING PARTY that LOVES illegals, HATES the police, LOVES to see attacks on ICE, HATES anyone like Charlie Kirk who expresses an opinion contrary to your own, LOVES to give taxpayer money to those who are not entitled to it, HATES deporting illegal criminals, LOVES to see drag queens teaching our children under their "pride" flags, HATES to acknowledge the fact that transgenders are mentally disturbed, LOVES to see biological men infiltrating women's sports, their bathrooms, locker rooms, and showers, and HATES the fact that our border is now closed to illegals!

But you won't, because that exposes the reality of your own hate-filled agenda, while flailing around miserably in an attempt to tar Republicans with the brush you've been using for the last decade!