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MR-7 » 08 Oct 2025, 7:12 am » wrote: ↑

08 Oct 2025, 7:12 am

What a great reply Shambo. A lot of thought for sure.  Keep up the good work.

fluffer

MR-7 » 08 Oct 2025, 7:00 am » wrote: ↑

08 Oct 2025, 7:00 am

While you were counting adjectives, Trump was counting pipelines reopened, jobs restored, and border miles secured. Some of us prefer results over rhetorical restraint. If you want a version with fewer adjectives, here you go:

Wall: Built.
Energy: Flowing.
Economy: Growing.
Enemies: Checking themselves.
Bureaucracy: Purged.
Crime: Dropping.
Veterans: Served.
Schools: Freed.
Leadership: Present.

No fluff. Just facts. Still too spicy?

Blackvegetable » 08 Oct 2025, 7:24 am » wrote: ↑

08 Oct 2025, 7:24 am

 

America’s energy is roaring back like it’s 2019 with a vengeance 
Pipelines reopened: Keystone XL is back on the table, and other stalled projects are being revived.
Drilling fast-tracked: Federal lands and offshore zones are seeing accelerated permitting and reduced environmental red tape.
Clean energy grants slashed: $7.6B in green subsidies were cut across 16 blue states, redirecting focus to fossil fuel infrastructure.
Export dominance: The U.S. is once again a net exporter of oil and gas, with LNG terminals expanding and global contracts flowing.
Gas prices: Down from their 2022 highs, stabilized by increased domestic production and reduced reliance on OPEC. 
 

MR-7 » 08 Oct 2025, 7:21 am » wrote: ↑

08 Oct 2025, 7:21 am

The BV Reply....
I don't have to prove a thing to you, Fondler.
viewtopic.php?p=2780680#p2780680

Was that addressed to you?

Roshambo » 08 Oct 2025, 7:28 am » wrote: ↑

08 Oct 2025, 7:28 am

fluffer

U R killing it Shambo. Please,   
 

MR-7 » 08 Oct 2025, 7:38 am » wrote: ↑

08 Oct 2025, 7:38 am

U R killing it Shambo. Please, 

Explain the rationale behind Trump's decision to allocate $20 billion to Argentina, a country that has undergone 22 bailouts since 1956.
Clarify why Trump is compelled to provide assistance to farmers once more. Do you identify as conservative? No bailouts.

 
 

Roshambo » 08 Oct 2025, 7:49 am » wrote: ↑

08 Oct 2025, 7:49 am

Explain the rationale behind Trump's decision to allocate $20 billion to Argentina, a country that has undergone 22 bailouts since 1956.
Clarify why Trump is compelled to provide assistance to farmers once more. Do you identify as conservative? No bailouts.

The proof is in...shambo is a hardcore leftist.


 

Blackvegetable » 08 Oct 2025, 6:52 am » wrote: ↑

08 Oct 2025, 6:52 am

So many adjectives....

So many tears from Stumpy.

roadkill » 08 Oct 2025, 7:52 am » wrote: ↑

08 Oct 2025, 7:52 am

The proof is in...shambo is a hardcore leftist.

Perhaps you forgot your stance on bailouts     

quote="roadkill" post_id=2264159 time=1678825314 user_id=1424]
This is why the left doesn't want Trump back in office.

"Fmr. Obama Treasury Official: ‘Large Corporations’ Who Banked with SVB Getting a Taxpayer ‘Bailout’ After Fed Failed to Oversee SVB"[/quote]

roadkill » 02 Jul 2022, 2:27 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Jul 2022, 2:27 pm

Cal is in the tank hoping for fed bailout...Biden will try it.   

 
 

Roshambo » 08 Oct 2025, 7:49 am » wrote: ↑

08 Oct 2025, 7:49 am

Explain the rationale behind Trump's decision to allocate $20 billion to Argentina, a country that has undergone 22 bailouts since 1956.
Clarify why Trump is compelled to provide assistance to farmers once more. Do you identify as conservative? No bailouts.

Trump’s move isn’t about saving Argentina—it’s about locking China out of South America. Argentina was cozying up to Beijing. Now? They’re tied to U.S. interests. Javier Milei is slashing government fat, killing socialist subsidies, and deregulating like a Reagan disciple.

Trump’s $20B isn’t a handout—it’s a bet on capitalism winning in Latin America. Argentina holds lithium, uranium, and oil—critical for U.S. energy independence and tech supply chains. Trump’s investment secures access before China does. Milei dropped export taxes post-bailout. That benefits U.S. companies operating in Argentina, not just locals.

Trump said: “We’ve made so much money on tariffs; we’re going to take a small portion of that money and help our farmers.” That’s self-funded support, not deficit spending. Without aid, thousands of farms would go bankrupt. That’s not just economic—it’s national security. Trump’s move keeps food production domestic and stable.

I hope this helps....
 

Perhaps it's impossible for you to be honest.  You grasp at anything to avoid transparency.   That's classic leftism.     
 

MR-7 » 08 Oct 2025, 7:59 am » wrote: ↑

08 Oct 2025, 7:59 am

Trump’s move isn’t about saving Argentina—it’s about locking China out of South America. Argentina was cozying up to Beijing. Now? They’re tied to U.S. interests. Javier Milei is slashing government fat, killing socialist subsidies, and deregulating like a Reagan disciple.

Trump’s $20B isn’t a handout—it’s a bet on capitalism winning in Latin America. Argentina holds lithium, uranium, and oil—critical for U.S. energy independence and tech supply chains. Trump’s investment secures access before China does. Milei dropped export taxes post-bailout. That benefits U.S. companies operating in Argentina, not just locals.

Trump said: “We’ve made so much money on tariffs; we’re going to take a small portion of that money and help our farmers.” That’s self-funded support, not deficit spending. Without aid, thousands of farms would go bankrupt. That’s not just economic—it’s national security. Trump’s move keeps food production domestic and stable.

I hope this helps....

Tell that to the US farmers Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent announced last week that the U.S. is negotiating a $20 billion potential credit line with Argentina's central bank to support the country's economy and prop up the peso.
 That news came right after Argentina suspended its export taxes on some grains, including soybeans, delivering a gut-punch to the U.S. soybean industry. The senators noted the move undercuts U.S. farmers in the international market, particularly soybean producers.

 China – which effectively boycotted purchases of U.S. soybeans over the summer and has no orders booked for the 2025-26 marketing year in protest of Trump’s trade war – immediately bought up several shiploads of soybeans from Argentina at the discounted rate, according to reports. 
 

Roshambo » 08 Oct 2025, 8:02 am » wrote: ↑

08 Oct 2025, 8:02 am

Tell that to the US farmers Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent announced last week that the U.S. is negotiating a $20 billion potential credit line with Argentina's central bank to support the country's economy and prop up the peso.
 That news came right after Argentina suspended its export taxes on some grains, including soybeans, delivering a gut-punch to the U.S. soybean industry. The senators noted the move undercuts U.S. farmers in the international market, particularly soybean producers.

 China – which effectively boycotted purchases of U.S. soybeans over the summer and has no orders booked for the 2025-26 marketing year in protest of Trump’s trade war – immediately bought up several shiploads of soybeans from Argentina at the discounted rate, according to reports.

The credit line isn’t a handout. It’s a swap line — a strategic move to stabilize Argentina’s economy and anchor it to the U.S. dollar, not the yuan.

By propping up Argentina’s central bank, Trump is locking China out of South America’s financial system. That’s long-term leverage, not short-term charity.

Milei’s government suspended grain export taxes to boost dollar reserves, not to spite U.S. farmers.
Trump didn’t dictate that move — and the U.S. credit line wasn’t contingent on it. The timing was unfortunate but not coordinated.

China stopped buying U.S. soybeans months ago due to retaliatory tariffs — not because of Argentina’s tax policy.

Argentina simply filled a vacuum China created. That’s market dynamics, not betrayal.

Treasury and USDA are preparing a $10–14 billion aid package for soybean, corn, wheat, and cotton farmers

Trump’s team is using tariff revenue to fund this — not deficit spending. That’s self-financed protection, not socialism.

R U a democrat?
 
 

MR-7 » 08 Oct 2025, 8:10 am » wrote: ↑

08 Oct 2025, 8:10 am

The credit line isn’t a handout. It’s a swap line — a strategic move to stabilize Argentina’s economy and anchor it to the U.S. dollar, not the yuan.

By propping up Argentina’s central bank, Trump is locking China out of South America’s financial system. That’s long-term leverage, not short-term charity.

Milei’s government suspended grain export taxes to boost dollar reserves, not to spite U.S. farmers.
Trump didn’t dictate that move — and the U.S. credit line wasn’t contingent on it. The timing was unfortunate but not coordinated.

China stopped buying U.S. soybeans months ago due to retaliatory tariffs — not because of Argentina’s tax policy.

Argentina simply filled a vacuum China created. That’s market dynamics, not betrayal.

Treasury and USDA are preparing a $10–14 billion aid package for soybean, corn, wheat, and cotton farmers

Trump’s team is using tariff revenue to fund this — not deficit spending. That’s self-financed protection, not socialism.

R U a democrat?

I hold conservative views. I do not support any bailouts, particularly for a nation that has received financial assistance 22 times since 1956.

 

roadkill » 08 Oct 2025, 7:54 am » wrote: ↑

08 Oct 2025, 7:54 am

So many tears from Stumpy.

Slow motion train wreck, PedoRoad.....again...

Roshambo » 08 Oct 2025, 8:13 am » wrote: ↑

08 Oct 2025, 8:13 am

I hold conservative views. I do not support any bailouts, particularly for a nation that has received financial assistance 22 times since 1956.

I voted for TRUMP. Who did you vote for?
 

MR-7 » 08 Oct 2025, 8:19 am » wrote: ↑

08 Oct 2025, 8:19 am

I voted for TRUMP. Who did you vote for?

Trump
Trump
Trump
 

Roshambo » 08 Oct 2025, 8:23 am » wrote: ↑

08 Oct 2025, 8:23 am

Trump
Trump
Trump

Excellent! 
 

Blackvegetable » 08 Oct 2025, 7:24 am » wrote: ↑

08 Oct 2025, 7:24 am

A random screen shot? WTF?

Roshambo » 08 Oct 2025, 8:02 am » wrote: ↑

08 Oct 2025, 8:02 am

Tell that to the US farmers Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent announced last week that the U.S. is negotiating a $20 billion potential credit line with Argentina's central bank to support the country's economy and prop up the peso.
 That news came right after Argentina suspended its export taxes on some grains, including soybeans, delivering a gut-punch to the U.S. soybean industry. The senators noted the move undercuts U.S. farmers in the international market, particularly soybean producers.

 China – which effectively boycotted purchases of U.S. soybeans over the summer and has no orders booked for the 2025-26 marketing year in protest of Trump’s trade war – immediately bought up several shiploads of soybeans from Argentina at the discounted rate, according to reports.

Trump 45 made a deal with china to buy soybeans to which they agreed...then didn't buy any...so why should your post matter now?
 
 

ROG62 » 08 Oct 2025, 8:33 am » wrote: ↑

08 Oct 2025, 8:33 am

A random screen shot? WTF?

Exactly....you can't even find it on an "image search".....desperate, very desperate.