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ROG62 » 11 Oct 2025, 8:18 am » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2025, 8:18 am

She's an attorney, not a waitress at the local Waffle House...you don't make mistakes like that...

The situation is complex. The paragraph explaining the second home rider "characterizes the agreement rather than quoting it, an odd choice in this context," defense attorney and former federal prosecutor Ken White wrote on BlueSky. "Also note that the indictment claims she rented the property but not that she entered into an agreement that REQUIRED her to rent the property, which seems to be what is prohibited by the paraphrased language."

"Prosecutors don't even bother to allege she ever entered into such an arrangement," Lawfare's Molly Roberts agrees, citing copies of documents released earlier this year. "All they allege is that she rented out the property, and that she didn't personally use it. That behavior, the rider doesn't prohibit."

ROG62 » 11 Oct 2025, 8:21 am » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2025, 8:21 am

If it was "legally changed and documented", there wouldn't be an issue, right? It depends upon the timing...I guess..

retribution 
 

RebelGator » 11 Oct 2025, 8:23 am » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2025, 8:23 am

Baboons make for poor attorneys.

there seems to be some truth in that...between her and fanni, they seem to have that market cornered...
 

Roshambo » 11 Oct 2025, 8:24 am » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2025, 8:24 am

The situation is complex. The paragraph explaining the second home rider "characterizes the agreement rather than quoting it, an odd choice in this context," defense attorney and former federal prosecutor Ken White wrote on BlueSky. "Also note that the indictment claims she rented the property but not that she entered into an agreement that REQUIRED her to rent the property, which seems to be what is prohibited by the paraphrased language."

"Prosecutors don't even bother to allege she ever entered into such an arrangement," Lawfare's Molly Roberts agrees, citing copies of documents released earlier this year. "All they allege is that she rented out the property, and that she didn't personally use it. That behavior, the rider doesn't prohibit."

Blue sky? 
 

JohnnyYou » 11 Oct 2025, 3:04 am » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2025, 3:04 am

Made up furry tale

NO... it's NOT !!  AND... in her own words... "NO ONE is ABOVE the LAW" !!

JohnnyYou » 11 Oct 2025, 3:01 am » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2025, 3:01 am

Did you think you would win?

Humanity and Time are not on your side.

tie her up in court make her spend her money on legal fees karma is a bitch 

Roshambo » 10 Oct 2025, 3:29 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Oct 2025, 3:29 pm

 She previously said she made an error while filling out a form related to the home purchase but fixed it.

SHE is a practicing attorney and the AG of New York City...  for her to claim an error, or misunderstanding, seem IDIOTIC to me...UNLESS she is the STUPIDEST AG in America, and  in which case, SHE SHOULD NOT have indicted Donald Trump for MUCH LESS, and tried to sue him for MUCH MORE !

In the end, THIS is about JUSTICE... more than anything else !

ROG62 » 11 Oct 2025, 8:28 am » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2025, 8:28 am

Blue sky?

If a mortgage application contains an occupancy rider and later specifies the penalties for violating that rider as detailed in the contract, it fundamentally pertains to civil contract law. Even within the framework of a civil case, a fraud allegation is intrinsically fragile and remarkably challenging to prove, even when utilizing the preponderance of evidence standard. It is crucial to possess evidence at the time she signed it that illustrates her intention to not adhere to the terms. 

https://i.postimg.cc/CKdKfj2c/bafkreier ... c26efi.jpg

ConservativeWave » 11 Oct 2025, 9:49 am » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2025, 9:49 am

SHE is a practicing attorney and the AG of New York City...  for her to claim an error, or misunderstanding, seem IDIOTIC to me...UNLESS she is the STUPIDEST AG in America, and  in which case, SHE SHOULD NOT have indicted Donald Trump for MUCH LESS, and tried to sue him for MUCH MORE !

In the end, THIS is about JUSTICE... more than anything else !

 
 
 

It appears just a little bit of fraud goes unpunished.

Also unusual in James’s case is the amount of money she is said to have benefited from because of the fraud. Typically, investigators in the inspector general’s office at the Federal Housing Finance Agency, which handles mortgage fraud investigations, pursue cases where there are substantial losses to Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac, government-sponsored enterprises that support the housing market by guaranteeing mortgages.

Even the most junior prosecutor in a US attorney’s office would turn down a case with a loss amount that low, said Jacqueline Kelly, a former federal prosecutor in New York who is now a partner at Boies Schiller Flexner.

Roshambo » 10 Oct 2025, 3:29 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Oct 2025, 3:29 pm

 She previously said she made an error while filling out a form related to the home purchase but fixed it.

before or after she got the loans?

EDC4ALL! » 11 Oct 2025, 10:06 am » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2025, 10:06 am

before or after she got the loans?

Makes no difference, this is a civil matter.
 

Fuelman » 11 Oct 2025, 10:05 am » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2025, 10:05 am

It appears just a little bit of fraud goes unpunished.

Also unusual in James’s case is the amount of money she is said to have benefited from because of the fraud. Typically, investigators in the inspector general’s office at the Federal Housing Finance Agency, which handles mortgage fraud investigations, pursue cases where there are substantial losses to Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac, government-sponsored enterprises that support the housing market by guaranteeing mortgages.

Even the most junior prosecutor in a US attorney’s office would turn down a case with a loss amount that low, said Jacqueline Kelly, a former federal prosecutor in New York who is now a partner at Boies Schiller Flexner.

Civil contract law. I expected better from you.

Fuelman » 11 Oct 2025, 10:05 am » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2025, 10:05 am

Even the most junior prosecutor in a US attorney’s office would turn down a case with a loss amount that low, said Jacqueline Kelly, a former federal prosecutor in New York who is now a partner at Boies Schiller Flexner.

The bitch had no trouble prosecuting Trump where there was no loss involved......if it weren't for double standards, Democrats would have no standards at all.

Roshambo » 11 Oct 2025, 9:51 am » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2025, 9:51 am

If a mortgage application contains an occupancy rider and later specifies the penalties for violating that rider as detailed in the contract, it fundamentally pertains to civil contract law. Even within the framework of a civil case, a fraud allegation is intrinsically fragile and remarkably challenging to prove, even when utilizing the preponderance of evidence standard. It is crucial to possess evidence at the time she signed it that illustrates her intention to not adhere to the terms. 

https://i.postimg.cc/CKdKfj2c/bafkreier ... c26efi.jpg

 

source for doc?
 

ConservativeWave » 11 Oct 2025, 9:49 am » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2025, 9:49 am

SHE is a practicing attorney and the AG of New York City...  for her to claim an error, or misunderstanding, seem IDIOTIC to me...UNLESS she is the STUPIDEST AG in America, and  in which case, SHE SHOULD NOT have indicted Donald Trump for MUCH LESS, and tried to sue him for MUCH MORE !

In the end, THIS is about JUSTICE... more than anything else !

well, there is Keith Ellison...
 

Roshambo » 11 Oct 2025, 9:51 am » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2025, 9:51 am

If a mortgage application contains an occupancy rider and later specifies the penalties for violating that rider as detailed in the contract, it fundamentally pertains to civil contract law. Even within the framework of a civil case, a fraud allegation is intrinsically fragile and remarkably challenging to prove, even when utilizing the preponderance of evidence standard. It is crucial to possess evidence at the time she signed it that illustrates her intention to not adhere to the terms. 

https://i.postimg.cc/CKdKfj2c/bafkreier ... c26efi.jpg

 

It's not a "civil" case as she's been charged criminally...

Criminal Charges

• Indictment: James has been indicted on two federal charges:
  • Bank Fraud: Allegedly misled a bank to obtain favorable loan terms.
  • False Statements: Accused of making false claims regarding the use of a property she financed.

 
 

Fuelman » 11 Oct 2025, 10:05 am » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2025, 10:05 am

It appears just a little bit of fraud goes unpunished.

Also unusual in James’s case is the amount of money she is said to have benefited from because of the fraud. Typically, investigators in the inspector general’s office at the Federal Housing Finance Agency, which handles mortgage fraud investigations, pursue cases where there are substantial losses to Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac, government-sponsored enterprises that support the housing market by guaranteeing mortgages.

Even the most junior prosecutor in a US attorney’s office would turn down a case with a loss amount that low, said Jacqueline Kelly, a former federal prosecutor in New York who is now a partner at Boies Schiller Flexner.

*SHAKES FIST*
 

ROG62 » 11 Oct 2025, 10:12 am » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2025, 10:12 am

source for doc?

https://x.com/rockmom/status/1976706728008786002

This is Lawfare

https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/th ... itia-james
 

ROG62 » 11 Oct 2025, 10:17 am » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2025, 10:17 am

It's not a "civil" case as she's been charged criminally...

Criminal Charges

• Indictment: James has been indicted on two federal charges:
  • Bank Fraud: Allegedly misled a bank to obtain favorable loan terms.
  • False Statements: Accused of making false claims regarding the use of a property she financed.

Let us allow this situation to unfold. 
 

ROG62 » 11 Oct 2025, 10:18 am » wrote: ↑

11 Oct 2025, 10:18 am

*SHAKES FIST*

Most law abiding citizens would agree!