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JohnnyYou » 15 Oct 2025, 3:20 am » wrote: I don't know how to provide proof to you.

I was not a fan of Joe at all.  I voted in the Republican Primary in 2020..I can't remember who for but it was not for Trump.

Ahh,, I skipped the primary in 2020 and worked as I recall now.

I had a meme that 2024 was The Sequel: Shyt Show 2.  We suck at electing good leadership. I did throw every Nikki Haley lever at MAGA in the 2024 primary along with 10% of Maryland Republicans.

I may register democrat to vote against Wes Moore getting  a second term as Governor.  You can thank me later.

Diversity of thought matters.  Trump Cult madness is like autism from too much Tylenol.   Try the Damnitol, it is a far more effective cure.

My party affiliation is just what primary I vote in. After that it is a Ted Nugent Free For All. The primaries are closed.. If I could vote in the primaries as an In Da Pants Dent I would. They can in California now with rank choice voting.
I call **** on your theory.
Did "diversity of thought" matter to you when Biden directed his corrupt DOJ to harass and threaten Trump supporters and then arrest hundreds of them on Jan. 6th after planting hundreds of FBI agents in the pro-Trump crowd and instigate them to riot and break "into the Capitol" as Ray Epps did?  Did you utter even a word of objection when Biden tried to install a "Ministry of Truth" to stop his opponents from criticizing him or supporting Trump?

THAT'S why your claim is ****!  And it NEVER changes when a Democrat is in power, and you know it!
 
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JohnnyYou » 12 Oct 2025, 11:06 am » wrote: Doesn't take much but a few glimpses to know the cholesterol is catching up with him.   Where did the Doctor get the degree?  Walmart?

Don't let Trump's doctor near me.  I'll have Stage 4 Cancer and be fit as a fiddle. Breaking the Hippocratic Oath can result in Death.

It's like Alaina Habba The Lawyer..  She'll plead your parking ticket down to a life sentence.
So you're critical of the doctor?

But said nothing about Biden's health and the people that covered for him?
 
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Zeets2 » 16 Oct 2025, 9:53 am » wrote: I call **** on your theory.
Did "diversity of thought" matter to you when Biden directed his corrupt DOJ to harass and threaten Trump supporters and then arrest hundreds of them on Jan. 6th after planting hundreds of FBI agents in the pro-Trump crowd and instigate them to riot and break "into the Capitol" as Ray Epps did?  Did you utter even a word of objection when Biden tried to install a "Ministry of Truth" to stop his opponents from criticizing him or supporting Trump?

THAT'S why your claim is ****!  And it NEVER changes when a Democrat is in power, and you know it!
No, I did not fall for the dumbshyt you did.

Corrupt DOJ?   Scam Bondi is weaponizing the DOJ no end..  Y'all are coordinating law to weaponize Christianity saying if we say anything bad about the religion we can end up in jail.

This is the first I heard of Biden'ss Ministry of Truth.. Y'all could use one.

While it is not possible for an AI to "utter" an objection, the debate over the Disinformation Governance Board initiated by the Biden administration in 2022 generated significant criticism. Many critics, including Republican lawmakers and civil liberties groups, voiced concerns that the board could potentially censor free speech and be used for political purposes. 
The purpose of the Disinformation Governance Board
  • According to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), the board was an internal working group created to coordinate and standardize its existing efforts to counter disinformation from foreign states, human smugglers, and other adversaries. It claimed the board would uphold constitutional rights and would not censor or police speech.
  • The board's specific areas of focus included disinformation related to human migration and threats from Russia against U.S. infrastructure. 
Key criticisms and concerns
  • "Ministry of Truth" accusations: Critics, including House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, likened the board to the "Ministry of Truth" from George Orwell's novel 1984, suggesting it was a tool for government censorship and propaganda.
  • Concerns over political bias: The appointment of Nina Jankowicz to lead the board drew particular scrutiny. Her past public statements, including expressing skepticism about the Hunter Biden laptop story, raised concerns about political bias among Republicans.
  • Lack of clear mission: The board was announced without a clear definition of its purpose, which led to confusion and allowed critics to fill the void with their own interpretations. Civil liberties groups, such as the Electronic Frontier Foundation, also expressed concerns over the lack of transparency. 
The board's dissolution
  • Due to the backlash, the DHS "paused" the board's activities just three weeks after it was announced.
  • Nina Jankowicz resigned, citing harassment and threats.
  • An advisory council reviewed the board, and in August 2022, DHS officially terminated it, stating that the controversy had become a "significant distraction". 
 
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JohnnyYou » 16 Oct 2025, 10:17 am » wrote: No, I did not fall for the dumbshyt you did.

Corrupt DOJ?   Scam Bondi is weaponizing the DOJ no end..  Y'all are coordinating law to weaponize Christianity saying if we say anything bad about the religion we can end up in jail.

This is the first I heard of Biden'ss Ministry of Truth.. Y'all could use one.

While it is not possible for an AI to "utter" an objection, the debate over the Disinformation Governance Board initiated by the Biden administration in 2022 generated significant criticism. Many critics, including Republican lawmakers and civil liberties groups, voiced concerns that the board could potentially censor free speech and be used for political purposes. 
The purpose of the Disinformation Governance Board
  • According to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), the board was an internal working group created to coordinate and standardize its existing efforts to counter disinformation from foreign states, human smugglers, and other adversaries. It claimed the board would uphold constitutional rights and would not censor or police speech.
  • The board's specific areas of focus included disinformation related to human migration and threats from Russia against U.S. infrastructure. 
Key criticisms and concerns
  • "Ministry of Truth" accusations: Critics, including House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, likened the board to the "Ministry of Truth" from George Orwell's novel 1984, suggesting it was a tool for government censorship and propaganda.
  • Concerns over political bias: The appointment of Nina Jankowicz to lead the board drew particular scrutiny. Her past public statements, including expressing skepticism about the Hunter Biden laptop story, raised concerns about political bias among Republicans.
  • Lack of clear mission: The board was announced without a clear definition of its purpose, which led to confusion and allowed critics to fill the void with their own interpretations. Civil liberties groups, such as the Electronic Frontier Foundation, also expressed concerns over the lack of transparency. 
The board's dissolution
  • Due to the backlash, the DHS "paused" the board's activities just three weeks after it was announced.
  • Nina Jankowicz resigned, citing harassment and threats.
  • An advisory council reviewed the board, and in August 2022, DHS officially terminated it, stating that the controversy had become a "significant distraction". 
Care to show any proof of your **** that Bondi has said someone can end up in jail for criticizing Christianity?
Obviously, you have no problem promoting and fomenting Democrat lies whenever you hear them, do you?
 
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JohnnyYou » 12 Oct 2025, 11:06 am » wrote: Doesn't take much but a few glimpses to know the cholesterol is catching up with him.   Where did the Doctor get the degree?  Walmart?

Don't let Trump's doctor near me.  I'll have Stage 4 Cancer and be fit as a fiddle. Breaking the Hippocratic Oath can result in Death.

It's like Alaina Habba The Lawyer..  She'll plead your parking ticket down to a life sentence.
Anything you can say on that topic is completely moot considering who the Dems threw into the arena. Biden, a completely brain-dead individual who ended up being riddled with cancer essentially the moment he was pushed out of his position. You voted for that, so you forfeit the ability to ever mention health again. **** off. 
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SouthernFried » 16 Oct 2025, 10:38 am » wrote: Anything you can say on that topic is completely moot considering who the Dems threw into the arena. Biden, a completely brain-dead individual who ended up being riddled with cancer essentially the moment he was pushed out of his position. You voted for that, so you forfeit the ability to ever mention health again. **** off.
You couldn't Vote For Joe, I couldn't vote for Trump.

The only difference is you think Trump is A1+ Rated.

I said often, no matter who wins 2024, America loses.

I was not happy with either choice. And I sure hope we get better at chooosing leadership.
 
 
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Zeets2 » 16 Oct 2025, 10:36 am » wrote: Care to show any proof of your **** that Bondi has said someone can end up in jail for criticizing Christianity?
Obviously, you have no problem promoting and fomenting Democrat lies whenever you hear them, do you?
NPSM-7

Integration of Church and State.. God Help Us.

whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/countering-domestic-terrorism-and-organized-political-violence/

There are common recurrent motivations and indicia uniting this pattern of violent and terroristic activities under the umbrella of self-described “anti-fascism.”  These movements portray foundational American principles (e.g., support for law enforcement and border control) as “fascist” to justify and encourage acts of violent revolution.  This “anti-fascist” lie has become the organizing rallying cry used by domestic terrorists to wage a violent assault against democratic institutions, constitutional rights, and fundamental American liberties.  Common threads animating this violent conduct include anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, and anti-Christianity; support for the overthrow of the United States Government; extremism on migration, race, and gender; and hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family, religion, and morality.  As described in the Order of September 22, 2025 (Designating Antifa as a Domestic Terrorist Organization), the groups and entities that perpetuate this extremism have created a movement that embraces and elevates violence to achieve policy outcomes, including justifying additional assassinations.  For example, Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin engraved the bullets used in the murder with so-called “anti-fascist” rhetoric.  

There is nothing traditional about Trump. It's what you voted for. Trump can use NPSM-7 to arrest the 58% of the Population that opposes him.
 
 
 
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ROG62 » 12 Oct 2025, 7:21 am » wrote: In a memo to the White House, his physician, Dr. Sean Barbabella, stated that Trump “remains in exceptional health, exhibiting strong cardiovascular, pulmonary, neurological, and physical performance.”

 Barbabella said the 79-year-old president’s cardiac age is “approximately 14 years younger than his chronological age” and that he continues to carry out his demanding daily schedule without restriction.

 Trump also received preventive health screenings and immunizations at the evaluation, including the annual influenza vaccine and a COVID-19 booster, in preparation for his upcoming international travel, according to the memo.

 His medical evaluation involved advanced imaging, laboratory testing, and preventive health assessments designed to ensure the president’s optimal cardiovascular health.

“His active lifestyle continues to contribute significantly to his well-being. President Trump’s days include participation in multiple meetings, public appearances, press availability, and frequent victories in golf events,” Barbabella stated in an April 13 memo, noting that Trump is “fully fit to execute the duties of the commander-in-chief and head of state.”

https://www.ntd.com/white-house-doctor- ... dium=email

'nuf said...
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JohnnyYou » 16 Oct 2025, 11:05 am » wrote: NPSM-7

Integration of Church and State.. God Help Us.

whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/countering-domestic-terrorism-and-organized-political-violence/

There are common recurrent motivations and indicia uniting this pattern of violent and terroristic activities under the umbrella of self-described “anti-fascism.”  These movements portray foundational American principles (e.g., support for law enforcement and border control) as “fascist” to justify and encourage acts of violent revolution.  This “anti-fascist” lie has become the organizing rallying cry used by domestic terrorists to wage a violent assault against democratic institutions, constitutional rights, and fundamental American liberties.  Common threads animating this violent conduct include anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, and anti-Christianity; support for the overthrow of the United States Government; extremism on migration, race, and gender; and hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family, religion, and morality.  As described in the Order of September 22, 2025 (Designating Antifa as a Domestic Terrorist Organization), the groups and entities that perpetuate this extremism have created a movement that embraces and elevates violence to achieve policy outcomes, including justifying additional assassinations.  For example, Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin engraved the bullets used in the murder with so-called “anti-fascist” rhetoric.  

There is nothing traditional about Trump. It's what you voted for. Trump can use NPSM-7 to arrest the 58% of the Population that opposes him.
Did these DEFINING TERMS miss your scrutiny?:
"Common threads animating this violent conduct"

That proves that simply criticizing Christianity IS NOT subjecting people to arrest, even though that's the lie you'd like to perpetuate against the president you have such an insane hatred for!

What IS subject to this law is the incitement of VIOLENT CONDUCT, such as the kind of threats that are being made daily by liberals like you calling for people to overthrow the Trump government, speech advocating people to shoot or otherwise attack people invoking their first amendment rights to support those in opposition to left-wing policies, or incite riots against the police, ICE, or the National Guard who are doing the jobs they've been authorized to do by state or federal law!

And if you can't see the difference, it makes you a fool on par with most lying and ignorant liberals! 
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Zeets2 » 16 Oct 2025, 11:41 am » wrote: Did these DEFINING TERMS miss your scrutiny?:
"Common threads animating this violent conduct"

That proves that simply criticizing Christianity IS NOT subjecting people to arrest, even though that's the lie you'd like to perpetuate against the president you have such an insane hatred for!

What IS subject to this law is the incitement of VIOLENT CONDUCT, such as the kind of threats that are being made daily by liberals like you calling for people to overthrow the Trump government, speech advocating people to shoot or otherwise attack people invoking their first amendment rights to support those in opposition to left-wing policies, or incite riots against the police, ICE, or the National Guard who are doing the jobs they've been authorized to do by state or federal law!

And if you can't see the difference, it makes you a fool on par with most lying and ignorant liberals!
That's the problem witth NPSM-7 and the Ministry of Truth you introduced me to today.  They are open to interpretation and not based on Rule of Law.

 Tell me you don't deny that Trump is good at twisting laws to his needs. He is much better than Clinton's definition of IS.
 
 
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JohnnyYou » 16 Oct 2025, 11:45 am » wrote: That's the problem witth NPSM-7 and the Ministry of Truth you introduced me to today.  They are open to interpretation and not based on Rule of Law.

 Tell me you don't deny that Trump is good at twisting laws to his needs. He is much better than Clinton's definition of IS.
Trump will use the existing laws to his best advantage, just as Biden, Obama, Clinton, and every other liberal in power has done in the past!  And our freedom of speech DOES NOT AND NEVER HAS permitted an incite to violence as liberals like you have done every day of the Trump administration!

What Trump WON'T do is make such idiotic statements as Bubba did, claiming "we were alone, but I really never felt we were alone", or "oral sex isn't really sex", or "I smoked pot but didn't inhale".  And you can't claim that all Biden did was to "twist" immigration law when he plainly ignored it entirely!
 
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Zeets2 » 16 Oct 2025, 12:39 pm » wrote: Trump will use the existing laws to his best advantage, just as Biden, Obama, Clinton, and every other liberal in power has done in the past!  And our freedom of speech DOES NOT AND NEVER HAS permitted an incite to violence as liberals like you have done every day of the Trump administration!

What Trump WON'T do is make such idiotic statements as Bubba did, claiming "we were alone, but I really never felt we were alone", or "oral sex isn't really sex", or "I smoked pot but didn't inhale".  And you can't claim that all Biden did was to "twist" immigration law when he plainly ignored it entirely!
Shut the **** up, moron.

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Zeets2 » 16 Oct 2025, 12:39 pm » wrote: Trump will use the existing laws to his best advantage, just as Biden, Obama, Clinton, and every other liberal in power has done in the past!  And our freedom of speech DOES NOT AND NEVER HAS permitted an incite to violence as liberals like you have done every day of the Trump administration!

What Trump WON'T do is make such idiotic statements as Bubba did, claiming "we were alone, but I really never felt we were alone", or "oral sex isn't really sex", or "I smoked pot but didn't inhale".  And you can't claim that all Biden did was to "twist" immigration law when he plainly ignored it entirely!
"HANG MIKE PENCE"...  "HANG MIKE PENCE"...  "HANG MIKE PENCE"...  "HANG MIKE PENCE"...  

I remember the Gallows well. MAGA was literaly prepared to commit murder. Publically. Of the Vice President.  Tell me again you don't incite violence.  You can call an opponnent vermin, scum, the enemy within.  You don't think that gets someone scared and angry?

If I set a gallows up, it would be the MAGA wagon to the Project 2025 Gulag.  If you do you get a Beg your Pardon. Maybe even a Medal of Freedom. Thugs are heroes in Trump world.

 
 
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JohnnyYou » 16 Oct 2025, 1:16 pm » wrote: "HANG MIKE PENCE"...  "HANG MIKE PENCE"...  "HANG MIKE PENCE"...  "HANG MIKE PENCE"...  

I remember the Gallows well. MAGA was literaly prepared to commit murder. Publically. Of the Vice President.  Tell me again you don't incite violence.  You can call an opponnent vermin, scum, the enemy within.  You don't think that gets someone scared and angry?

If I set a gallows up, it would be the MAGA wagon to the Project 2025 Gulag.  If you do you get a Beg your Pardon. Maybe even a Medal of Freedom. Thugs are heroes in Trump world.
And I suppose you can prove that it was the Trump supporters and NOT the hundreds of anti-Trump paid protesters that started that chant on Jan. 6th, now that we KNOW FOR A FACT that Biden's DOJ had over 200 FBI affiliates in the crowd?

Any of those terms you listed could certainly make someone scared or angry, and that is NOT the criteria used in the new edict because they ARE NOT INTENDED to incite violence, but merely expressing a personal opinion.  And they ARE NOT the equivalent of so many left wing epithets that are being used to attack Trump, his ICE agents, the police, or the National Guard, and you know it!  Those who are posting threats online every day are urging other anti-Trump haters to commit violence claiming they should be shot or killed as Trump and Charlie Kirk were, and those fomenting such hatred ARE NOT permitted to do so despite the first amendment, just as you cannot incite a riot in a theater full of people by shouting "fire", so stop your phony gaslighting!
 
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Zeets2 » 16 Oct 2025, 2:52 pm » wrote: And I suppose you can prove that it was the Trump supporters and NOT the hundreds of anti-Trump paid protesters that started that chant on Jan. 6th, now that we KNOW FOR A FACT that Biden's DOJ had over 200 FBI affiliates in the crowd?

Any of those terms you listed could certainly make someone scared or angry, and that is NOT the criteria used in the new edict because they ARE NOT INTENDED to incite violence, but merely expressing a personal opinion.  And they ARE NOT the equivalent of so many left wing epithets that are being used to attack Trump, his ICE agents, the police, or the National Guard, and you know it!  Those who are posting threats online every day are urging other anti-Trump haters to commit violence claiming they should be shot or killed as Trump and Charlie Kirk were, and those fomenting such hatred ARE NOT permitted to do so despite the first amendment, just as you cannot incite a riot in a theater full of people by shouting "fire", so stop your phony gaslighting!
No I can't prove that all those hundreds of people chanting Hang Mike Pence weren't plants from Trump's FBI at the time. He was POTUS.  Did he lose that much control of the government?  It might have been his FBI agents who started the chanting now that you mention it. I guess he got better at hiring better scrotum suckers this time around.

I guess the FBI maintains a supply of Gallows just for the purpose of inciting peaceful Insurrections tours.

God Damn you are dumb **** Zeets. Are you as old and demented as Trump and Biden? Your brain seems phucked up.

 
 
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Trump's words are NOTHING compared to the threats against HIM by left-wing assholes like you, Eggplant!  Even a dolt like you is permitted to state your opinion as Trump did when a person claims he raped her without having a shred of evidence, a witness, or attesting to the time and date or even the year she claims it took place!  Doesn't Trump clearly state that the names he called her are his own opinion?

So **** YOU TOO, DICKHEAD!  If you don't like the facts that I beat you over the head with every time, then put me on ignore, loser!
 
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JohnnyYou » 16 Oct 2025, 2:56 pm » wrote: No I can't prove that all those hundreds of people chaning Hang Mike Pence weren't plants from Trump's FBI at the time. He was POTUS.  Did he lose that much control of the government?  It might have been his FBI agents who started the chanting now that you mention it. I guess he got better at hiring better scrotum suckers this time around.

I guess the FBI maintains a supply of Gallows just for the purpose of inciting peaceful Insurrections tours.

God Damn you are dumb **** Zeets. Are you as old and demented as Trump and Biden? Your brain seems phucked up.
So why did Biden have over 200 of his paid flunkies infiltrate the crowd and tell them to "go into the Capitol, INTO THE CAPITOL" as Ray Epps did, if not to incite them to riot, you lying scumbag?  Pelosi and the DNC used that demonstration specifically to try to pin a new crime on Trump and keep him from exposing the fraud in the 2020 election, as well as to keep him from running again in 2024, but both attempts failed and you can't stand that fact!
 
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Zeets2 » 16 Oct 2025, 3:05 pm » wrote: So why did Biden have over 200 of his paid flunkies infiltrate the crowd and tell them to "go into the Capitol, INTO THE CAPITOL" as Ray Epps did, if not to incite them to riot, you lying scumbag?  Pelosi and the DNC used that demonstration specifically to try to pin a new crime on Trump and keep him from exposing the fraud in the 2020 election, as well as to keep him from running again in 2024, but both attempts failed and you can't stand that fact!
Get it through your skull:   Biden was NOT POTUS at the time.

You are telling me Joe had a cell of 200 paid flunkies to do this at the time? Orgaanized, with a plan to walk down to the capitol and fight fight fight?

K$sh Patel said the FBI agents that went there were after the Insurrection started.

You are in conspiracy la la land Zeets. The brainwashing has your mind painted like a black vegetable.


 
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Zeets2 » 16 Oct 2025, 2:59 pm » wrote: Trump's words are NOTHING compared to the threats against HIM by left-wing assholes like you, Eggplant!  
Zeet,

You're a **** idiot.

Pull your plug.
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