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Cannonpointer » 15 Oct 2025, 8:34 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Oct 2025, 8:34 pm

The fact that you do not already know this just proves you're a tourist in this argument, you dabbling ***. 

Jewish "settlers" come in and murder Palestinian farmers and seize their homes and farms, and then they call the army to protect them from the enraged victims and their families. 

It's pretty **** unforgivable that a weak queer who runs his mouth on this topic doesn't even understand the underlying issues, you **** homo tourist.

Prove it.....when you're not perfecting your vocabulary. 
On a side note, you stand a better chance of being a motivational speaker at a Bar Mitzvah than I do being a queer.

Cannonpointer » 15 Oct 2025, 8:32 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Oct 2025, 8:32 pm

No, stupid. Learn to read. The current indigenos DID invade and DID murder the ones who were here. 

I can't vouch for those ones that were killed off by the current crop in either direction. If I hadda guess, I'd say they stole the land from someone else, too.

They invaded North America from Asia, killing what MIGHT have been the indigenous people, and might have been an earlier group of invaders.

learn to **** type something that conveys the message you're so miserably trying to get across..
 

RebelGator » 15 Oct 2025, 8:07 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Oct 2025, 8:07 pm

Watch out the vampire mouth is out and looking for a meal.  

all this subliminal **** every time someone posts something...how can one keep up?
 

Cannonpointer » 15 Oct 2025, 7:09 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Oct 2025, 7:09 pm

Like I said, you are dishonest. 

There was no "mistake." Hamas delivered as planned. 

The Palestinian Authority has done nothing of the kind. It could not be counted on - so israel forced Gaza to have different leadership that the west bank. And it picked the leadership FOR the Gazans - confident that people like you would support genocide on the premise that Gazans asked for it by "electing" Hamas.

That's quite the fantasy you believe in, no facts needed.

The International community that oversaw the election said it was a fair and democratic election. Pretty much everyone was surprised by the result and showed just how much Fatah was disliked by the Palestinians. If you have proof Israel rigged the election, cough it up.
 

RebelGator » 16 Oct 2025, 6:07 am » wrote: ↑

16 Oct 2025, 6:07 am

Cannonpointer » 15 Oct 2025, 8:34 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Oct 2025, 8:34 pm

The fact that you do not already know this just proves you're a tourist in this argument, you dabbling ***. 

Jewish "settlers" come in and murder Palestinian farmers and seize their homes and farms, and then they call the army to protect them from the enraged victims and their families. 

It's pretty **** unforgivable that a weak queer who runs his mouth on this topic doesn't even understand the underlying issues, you **** homo tourist.

Prove it.....

You stupid, lazy little queer.

AI Overview

As of mid-October 2025, Haaretz continues to report extensively on Israeli settlers, focusing on escalating violence in the West Bank, government support for settlement expansion, and the displacement of Palestinian communities. Recent articles detail attacks on Palestinian farmers, the burning of homes, the establishment of illegal outposts, and bureaucratic policies that advance de facto annexation.

Recent stories on settler violence

Attacks on olive harvesters: An October 11, 2025, report describes settlers burning cars and attacking Palestinian farmers during the olive harvest in the West Bank. Seven Palestinians were wounded in the incident, which the town's deputy mayor called the "most violent" in years.

Raid on Khallet al-Daba: In September 2025, Haaretz reported that roughly 30 settlers raided the village of Khallet al-Daba, injuring several residents, including children and the elderly. The raid is part of a pattern of demolitions and harassment in the Masafer Yatta region.

Coordinated arson attacks: An August 2025 article details a series of coordinated attacks where settlers simultaneously torched Palestinian cars in three different West Bank communities, endangering the occupants.

Targeting of activists and farmers: Settler harassment and violence against both Palestinians and Israeli left-wing activists were reported in August 2025. One account describes a shepherding community that was displaced after weeks of threats from settlers, followed by an erroneous eviction order from the military.

Stories on settlement expansion and official policy

Accelerated settlement growth: Haaretz has published multiple reports on how the Israeli government, particularly under Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, has advanced settlement expansion and annexationist policies under the cover of the war in Gaza.

Demolition enforcement disparity: In August 2025, an article highlighted that while the Israeli Civil Administration issues demolition orders against illegal outposts, political pressure ensures they are rarely enforced against settlers. Enforcement disproportionately targets Palestinian structures.

E1 construction plan: The paper reported in August 2025 on a plan to build thousands of new homes in the E1 area of the West Bank. According to a Haaretz editorial, this project would effectively "bury the idea of a Palestinian state" by severing the northern and southern parts of the West Bank.

ROG62 » 16 Oct 2025, 7:47 am » wrote: ↑

16 Oct 2025, 7:47 am

They invaded North America from Asia, killing what MIGHT have been the indigenous people, and might have been an earlier group of invaders.
 

That's what I said. 

Thank you for learning to read.
 

Fuelman » 16 Oct 2025, 10:45 am » wrote: ↑

16 Oct 2025, 10:45 am

That's quite the fantasy you believe in, no facts needed.

The International community that oversaw the election said it was a fair and democratic election. Pretty much everyone was surprised by the result and showed just how much Fatah was disliked by the Palestinians. If you have proof Israel rigged the election, cough it up.

Haaretz and the Times of Israel have published stories about it - which I have shared on this board. 

They bounce off your prejudiced head. You deeply desire to see the matter a certain way and are impervious to evidence. 

Here is a hastily googled story from the Times of Israel. https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years ... our-faces/

More hasty googling:

Reports in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz have detailed Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's policy of allowing Qatari cash to be funneled to Hamas in the Gaza Strip for years prior to the October 7, 2023 attack. While not an act of direct support, critics allege that this policy strengthened Hamas and served Netanyahu's political strategy of preventing a unified Palestinian state. 
Haaretz and other reports on the policy

• A "divide and rule" strategy: Haaretz has been among several news outlets reporting that Netanyahu's long-term strategy involved allowing money to go to Hamas in Gaza while undermining the more moderate Palestinian Authority in the West Bank. This "divide and conquer" approach was intended to prevent a two-state solution, by enabling him to claim there was no unified Palestinian partner for peace talks.
•  
• Netanyahu's own past statements: In 2019, Netanyahu reportedly told a Likud party conference that "Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas".
•  
• Money transfers via Qatar: Reports from Haaretz and others revealed that Israel not only tolerated but actively facilitated millions of dollars in cash transfers from Qatar to Gaza, which were coordinated with Hamas. In March 2025, Haaretz detailed how a confidant of Netanyahu's, businessman Shlomi Fogel, helped expedite these transfers at Hamas's request.
•  
• Intelligence warnings ignored: The New York Times reported that Netanyahu rejected a 2016 plan from his then-Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman for a preemptive strike against Hamas. Instead, he favored a policy of "containment" and "buying quiet". 

Netanyahu's denials and explanations

After the October 7, 2023 attack, Netanyahu defended the policy and denied strengthening Hamas, claiming the funds were intended to prevent a "humanitarian collapse" in Gaza. 
Criticism from former officials

• Former National Security Adviser: Eyal Hulata, who served as National Security Adviser until 2023, said Netanyahu's policy was to "buy quiet and pretend the problem isn't there, we can wait it out and it will fade away".
•  
• Right-wing partner's view: Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, a far-right politician, also candidly articulated this strategy in 2015, calling the Palestinian Authority a "burden" and Hamas an "asset". 

 
 

Cannonpointer » 16 Oct 2025, 7:41 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Oct 2025, 7:41 pm

That's what I said. 

Thank you for learning to read.

then don't be loosely calling me fruity in another post implying it REALLY happened...     *shakes fist*
 

Cannonpointer » 16 Oct 2025, 7:32 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Oct 2025, 7:32 pm

You stupid, lazy little queer.

AI Overview

As of mid-October 2025, Haaretz continues to report extensively on Israeli settlers, focusing on escalating violence in the West Bank, government support for settlement expansion, and the displacement of Palestinian communities. Recent articles detail attacks on Palestinian farmers, the burning of homes, the establishment of illegal outposts, and bureaucratic policies that advance de facto annexation.

Recent stories on settler violence

Attacks on olive harvesters: An October 11, 2025, report describes settlers burning cars and attacking Palestinian farmers during the olive harvest in the West Bank. Seven Palestinians were wounded in the incident, which the town's deputy mayor called the "most violent" in years.

Raid on Khallet al-Daba: In September 2025, Haaretz reported that roughly 30 settlers raided the village of Khallet al-Daba, injuring several residents, including children and the elderly. The raid is part of a pattern of demolitions and harassment in the Masafer Yatta region.

Coordinated arson attacks: An August 2025 article details a series of coordinated attacks where settlers simultaneously torched Palestinian cars in three different West Bank communities, endangering the occupants.

Targeting of activists and farmers: Settler harassment and violence against both Palestinians and Israeli left-wing activists were reported in August 2025. One account describes a shepherding community that was displaced after weeks of threats from settlers, followed by an erroneous eviction order from the military.

Stories on settlement expansion and official policy

Accelerated settlement growth: Haaretz has published multiple reports on how the Israeli government, particularly under Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, has advanced settlement expansion and annexationist policies under the cover of the war in Gaza.

Demolition enforcement disparity: In August 2025, an article highlighted that while the Israeli Civil Administration issues demolition orders against illegal outposts, political pressure ensures they are rarely enforced against settlers. Enforcement disproportionately targets Palestinian structures.

E1 construction plan: The paper reported in August 2025 on a plan to build thousands of new homes in the E1 area of the West Bank. According to a Haaretz editorial, this project would effectively "bury the idea of a Palestinian state" by severing the northern and southern parts of the West Bank.

I see you've bought hook, line, and sinker into Islamic propaganda, i also noted one of your atrocities was described as the "worst" in years.....seven people were injured from the report which you provided.....guess you missed the 1500 Israeli's that were burned, raped, and killed on 10/7 that led to the most recent war on terrorism. To set the record straight, I'm not Jewish, have only had interactions with 3 Jewish people in my life.....I found them to be good friends and good American's.....as an objective viewer and listener of events, I fall on the side of Democracy and reject the terrorist activities of Islamic fanatics. Jewish people are the most persecuted in history, more often than not by authoritarian and fascist regimes, unable to compete with them, so they kill them.

Cannonpointer » 16 Oct 2025, 7:54 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Oct 2025, 7:54 pm

Haaretz and the Times of Israel have published stories about it - which I have shared on this board. 

They bounce off your prejudiced head. You deeply desire to see the matter a certain way and are impervious to evidence. 

Here is a hastily googled story from the Times of Israel. https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years ... our-faces/

More hasty googling:

Reports in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz have detailed Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's policy of allowing Qatari cash to be funneled to Hamas in the Gaza Strip for years prior to the October 7, 2023 attack. While not an act of direct support, critics allege that this policy strengthened Hamas and served Netanyahu's political strategy of preventing a unified Palestinian state. 
Haaretz and other reports on the policy

• A "divide and rule" strategy: Haaretz has been among several news outlets reporting that Netanyahu's long-term strategy involved allowing money to go to Hamas in Gaza while undermining the more moderate Palestinian Authority in the West Bank. This "divide and conquer" approach was intended to prevent a two-state solution, by enabling him to claim there was no unified Palestinian partner for peace talks.
•  
• Netanyahu's own past statements: In 2019, Netanyahu reportedly told a Likud party conference that "Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas".
•  
• Money transfers via Qatar: Reports from Haaretz and others revealed that Israel not only tolerated but actively facilitated millions of dollars in cash transfers from Qatar to Gaza, which were coordinated with Hamas. In March 2025, Haaretz detailed how a confidant of Netanyahu's, businessman Shlomi Fogel, helped expedite these transfers at Hamas's request.
•  
• Intelligence warnings ignored: The New York Times reported that Netanyahu rejected a 2016 plan from his then-Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman for a preemptive strike against Hamas. Instead, he favored a policy of "containment" and "buying quiet". 

Netanyahu's denials and explanations

After the October 7, 2023 attack, Netanyahu defended the policy and denied strengthening Hamas, claiming the funds were intended to prevent a "humanitarian collapse" in Gaza. 
Criticism from former officials

• Former National Security Adviser: Eyal Hulata, who served as National Security Adviser until 2023, said Netanyahu's policy was to "buy quiet and pretend the problem isn't there, we can wait it out and it will fade away".
•  
• Right-wing partner's view: Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, a far-right politician, also candidly articulated this strategy in 2015, calling the Palestinian Authority a "burden" and Hamas an "asset". 

Yes, I have read the same. Nowhere does it say that rigged the election for Hamas to win. What it did show was there were far more extremist is Gaza than anyone thought.

Mistake or not, the end result is what matters, no 2 state solution which was the goal.
 

Cannonpointer » 16 Oct 2025, 7:32 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Oct 2025, 7:32 pm

You stupid, lazy little queer.

AI Overview

As of mid-October 2025, Haaretz continues to report extensively on Israeli settlers, focusing on escalating violence in the West Bank, government support for settlement expansion, and the displacement of Palestinian communities. Recent articles detail attacks on Palestinian farmers, the burning of homes, the establishment of illegal outposts, and bureaucratic policies that advance de facto annexation.

Recent stories on settler violence

Attacks on olive harvesters: An October 11, 2025, report describes settlers burning cars and attacking Palestinian farmers during the olive harvest in the West Bank. Seven Palestinians were wounded in the incident, which the town's deputy mayor called the "most violent" in years.

Raid on Khallet al-Daba: In September 2025, Haaretz reported that roughly 30 settlers raided the village of Khallet al-Daba, injuring several residents, including children and the elderly. The raid is part of a pattern of demolitions and harassment in the Masafer Yatta region.

Coordinated arson attacks: An August 2025 article details a series of coordinated attacks where settlers simultaneously torched Palestinian cars in three different West Bank communities, endangering the occupants.

Targeting of activists and farmers: Settler harassment and violence against both Palestinians and Israeli left-wing activists were reported in August 2025. One account describes a shepherding community that was displaced after weeks of threats from settlers, followed by an erroneous eviction order from the military.

Stories on settlement expansion and official policy

Accelerated settlement growth: Haaretz has published multiple reports on how the Israeli government, particularly under Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich, has advanced settlement expansion and annexationist policies under the cover of the war in Gaza.

Demolition enforcement disparity: In August 2025, an article highlighted that while the Israeli Civil Administration issues demolition orders against illegal outposts, political pressure ensures they are rarely enforced against settlers. Enforcement disproportionately targets Palestinian structures.

E1 construction plan: The paper reported in August 2025 on a plan to build thousands of new homes in the E1 area of the West Bank. According to a Haaretz editorial, this project would effectively "bury the idea of a Palestinian state" by severing the northern and southern parts of the West Bank.

If I were a Jew in Israel, I would be doing the exact same thing, pushing those lines back as far a possible.
 

RebelGator » 17 Oct 2025, 6:54 am » wrote: ↑

17 Oct 2025, 6:54 am

I see you've bought hook, line, and sinker into Islamic propaganda,

I quoted Haaretz and the Timnes of Israel. The people of Israel do not make these papers great again by paying for islamic propaganda, you simple minded sissy.

You are an idiot.
 

Fuelman » 17 Oct 2025, 8:51 am » wrote: ↑

17 Oct 2025, 8:51 am

Yes, I have read the same. Nowhere does it say that rigged the election for Hamas to win. What it did show was there were far more extremist is Gaza than anyone thought.

Mistake or not, the end result is what matters, no 2 state solution which was the goal.

You admit that israel's military and financial and espionage meddling in palestinian politics was to the end of thwarting a two state solution.

The two state solution is american policy.

They are not good allies - they are dishonest allies. They assure us they are working for a two state solution. 

We should stop paying them tolie to us. 
 

Fuelman » 17 Oct 2025, 9:02 am » wrote: ↑

17 Oct 2025, 9:02 am

If I were a Jew in Israel, I would be doing the exact same thing, pushing those lines back as far a possible.

It's stealing land from citizens based on race. 

You would participate in genocide, and you endorse genocide. Thanks for wieghing in. 
 

Cannonpointer » 17 Oct 2025, 9:35 am » wrote: ↑

17 Oct 2025, 9:35 am

You admit that israel's military and financial and espionage meddling in palestinian politics was to the end of thwarting a two state solution.

The two state solution is american policy.

They are not good allies - they are dishonest allies. They assure us they are working for a two state solution. 

We should stop paying them tolie to us.

Yes, that has been American Policy for decades until recently. Didn't work. Those douches at the UN are worthless, I'd defund them before Israel.

Hamas is writing the headlines of their own grave markers as we speak.
 

Cannonpointer » 17 Oct 2025, 9:36 am » wrote: ↑

17 Oct 2025, 9:36 am

It's stealing land from citizens based on race. 

You would participate in genocide, and you endorse genocide. Thanks for wieghing in.

I would prefer people just get along but in this case I believe it's more than just about land. There is no negotiating with Infitada.
 

Fuelman » 17 Oct 2025, 9:49 am » wrote: ↑

17 Oct 2025, 9:49 am

Yes, that has been American Policy for decades until recently. Didn't work. Those douches at the UN are worthless, I'd defund them before Israel.

Hamas is writing the headlines of their own grave markers as we speak.

Obey.
 

Fuelman » 17 Oct 2025, 10:04 am » wrote: ↑

17 Oct 2025, 10:04 am

I would prefer people just get along but in this case I believe it's more than just about land. There is no negotiating with Infitada.

There is no negotiating with israel. 

There is either sucking them off or the videos get published.