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jerrab » 17 Oct 2025, 1:15 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Oct 2025, 1:15 pm

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No Kings" Protests: 
These are grassroots movements focused on promoting democratic principles and holding government officials accountable, often referencing a statement by an organizer that "America was founded on democracy—not monarchy".

Moist elitist in this country don't get punished. Presidents, politicians, the ultra-wealthy and powerful. I was actually shocked that Epstein went to jail. I couldn't believe it. Not because I thought he didn't deserve it, but because of how powerful he was. It's just rare that happens. However, there are probably some underpinnings from the deep state that caused all that. I don't think it was strictly due to our legal system. If it was, he would have gotten off with only paying a fine to the victims or something similar.

jerrab » 20 Oct 2025, 11:34 am » wrote: ↑

20 Oct 2025, 11:34 am

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Trump has argued that he cannot be prosecuted for actions taken during his presidency. He suggests that the Constitution granted American presidents similar powers and immunities to the British king, a claim disputed by historical and legal experts.

Trump is president for over 3 more years 

Vegas » 20 Oct 2025, 12:02 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Oct 2025, 12:02 pm

Moist elitist in this country don't get punished. Presidents, politicians, the ultra-wealthy and powerful. I was actually shocked that Epstein went to jail. I couldn't believe it. Not because I thought he didn't deserve it, but because of how powerful he was. It's just rare that happens. However, there are probably some underpinnings from the deep state that caused all that. I don't think it was strictly due to our legal system. If it was, he would have gotten off with only paying a fine to the victims or something similar.

yes, and where did he die?

Zeets2 » 20 Oct 2025, 9:26 am » wrote: ↑

20 Oct 2025, 9:26 am

Oh, and Biden and Obama DIDN'T load the courts with their own left-wing supporters, including the 3 far-left liberal idiots on the Supreme Court that have been in the minority for almost every recent SC vote?  How come THAT didn't bother you in the slightest, Jerra?

That idiotic demonstration was a joke, and holding it now was the primary reason that Schumer and the Democrats wanted to keep the government shutdown going so the thousands of out of work federal workers (who are mostly ignorant, Trump-hating Democrats) would be free to go out and join the protest since they were furloughed.

So how did all those paid demonstrators succeed in affecting anything Trump has done or is doing, when even the liberal media on CNN and MSNBC have ignored it today?

Sure looks like was a massive waste of time and money, don't you agree?

did they make  it so obama can't be indicted? that would bother me.
 
 

Zeets2 » 20 Oct 2025, 11:01 am » wrote: ↑

20 Oct 2025, 11:01 am

The point being that the Schumer shutdown was held out in order to get more Democrat federal workers pissed off enough to join in what they knew would be a useless demonstration.

So tell us, jerra.  Exactly what was accomplished, besides having MAGA watch far-left commie organizations waste their money and laugh at such futility and seeing their own irrelevance?

https://youtu.be/G-SVdQmbWx8?si=KILTxVkNI0r8cW11

Zeets2 » 20 Oct 2025, 9:26 am » wrote: ↑

20 Oct 2025, 9:26 am

Oh, and Biden and Obama DIDN'T load the courts with their own left-wing supporters, including the 3 far-left liberal idiots on the Supreme Court that have been in the minority for almost every recent SC vote?  How come THAT didn't bother you in the slightest, Jerra?

That idiotic demonstration was a joke, and holding it now was the primary reason that Schumer and the Democrats wanted to keep the government shutdown going so the thousands of out of work federal workers (who are mostly ignorant, Trump-hating Democrats) would be free to go out and join the protest since they were furloughed.

So how did all those paid demonstrators succeed in affecting anything Trump has done or is doing, when even the liberal media on CNN and MSNBC have ignored it today?

Sure looks like was a massive waste of time and money, don't you agree?

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• Trump's Argument: Trump has argued that he cannot be prosecuted for actions taken during his presidency. He suggests that the Constitution granted American presidents similar powers and immunities to the British king, a claim disputed by historical and legal experts.
• Supreme Court's Ruling: The Supreme Court recently ruled on Trump's immunity claim in Trump v. United States. The court concluded that a former president has absolute immunity for actions within their "exclusive sphere of constitutional authority" and presumptive immunity for other "official actions".

jerrab » 20 Oct 2025, 12:32 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Oct 2025, 12:32 pm

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• Trump's Argument: Trump has argued that he cannot be prosecuted for actions taken during his presidency. He suggests that the Constitution granted American presidents similar powers and immunities to the British king, a claim disputed by historical and legal experts.
• Supreme Court's Ruling: The Supreme Court recently ruled on Trump's immunity claim in Trump v. United States. The court concluded that a former president has absolute immunity for actions within their "exclusive sphere of constitutional authority" and presumptive immunity for other "official actions".

So I repeat, how has the amount of time and money spent on a demonstration that produced NOTHING for your left-wing cause been worth it, especially since the Supreme Court has already ruled on the points you posted?

Did you really expect that it would affect anything Trump or his entire administration would do, or cost him any support among his MAGA constituents?

Or would you agree as I believe that it was a complete failure and a waste of time that achieved nothing?
 

Zeets2 » 20 Oct 2025, 12:54 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Oct 2025, 12:54 pm

So I repeat, how has the amount of time and money spent on a demonstration that produced NOTHING for your left-wing cause been worth it, especially since the Supreme Court has already ruled on the points you posted?

Did you really expect that it would affect anything Trump or his entire administration would do, or cost him any support among his MAGA constituents?

Or would you agree as I believe that it was a complete failure and a waste of time that achieved nothing?

did I ever say that trump would lose support from his maga crowd? you would follow him through quicksand.

Zeets2 » 20 Oct 2025, 12:54 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Oct 2025, 12:54 pm

So I repeat, how has the amount of time and money spent on a demonstration that produced NOTHING for your left-wing cause been worth it, especially since the Supreme Court has already ruled on the points you posted?

Did you really expect that it would affect anything Trump or his entire administration would do, or cost him any support among his MAGA constituents?

Or would you agree as I believe that it was a complete failure and a waste of time that achieved nothing?

it was a success whether you admit it or not.


https://www.nokings.org/

jerrab » 20 Oct 2025, 12:27 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Oct 2025, 12:27 pm

https://youtu.be/G-SVdQmbWx8?si=KILTxVkNI0r8cW11

Again, do you think having some liberal idiot deny that Antifa is a terrorist organization will stop Bondi or Trump from finding ways to defund Soros and the group of communist and socialist Trump haters from supporting them?

Have you learned NOTHING in the first 9 months of the second Trump presidency?
 

jerrab » 20 Oct 2025, 12:59 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Oct 2025, 12:59 pm

it was a success whether you admit it or not.

https://www.nokings.org/

By what metric do you figure that?
To be called a success, don't you agree that it would have had to change or even slightly adjust SOMETHING the participants were hoping to achieve?

So how can you consider something a success when all it could possibly merit is a participation trophy?    
Are you SO desperate for a liberal win that it's made you happier today?
Was THAT your only goal?
 

Zeets2 » 20 Oct 2025, 12:59 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Oct 2025, 12:59 pm

Again, do you think having some liberal idiot deny that Antifa is a terrorist organization will stop Bondi or Trump from finding ways to defund Soros and the group of communist and socialist Trump haters from supporting them?

Have you learned NOTHING in the first 9 months of the second Trump presidency?

soros did not fund the rallies and it is not antifa. you did not watch the video.

 

jerrab » 20 Oct 2025, 12:59 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Oct 2025, 12:59 pm

it was a success whether you admit it or not.

https://www.nokings.org/

do the protestors look antifa, really?

Zeets2 » 20 Oct 2025, 1:04 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Oct 2025, 1:04 pm

By what metric do you figure that?
To be called a success, don't you agree that it would have had to change or even slightly adjust SOMETHING the participants were hoping to achieve?

So how can you consider something a success when all it could possibly merit is a participation trophy?    
Are you SO desperate for a liberal win that it's made you happier today?
Was THAT your only goal?

the goal is to show what trump really is and that people see what he really is.

jerrab » 20 Oct 2025, 12:58 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Oct 2025, 12:58 pm

did I ever say that trump would lose support from his maga crowd? you would follow him through quicksand.

How was this exercise in futility in any way about ME?
I'm merely grasping at straws trying to figure out what YOU'RE so happy about it when it's so obvious that you accomplished NOTHING after practically having an orgasm over it!

So where's the beef?    
 

jerrab » 20 Oct 2025, 1:07 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Oct 2025, 1:07 pm

the goal is to show what trump really is and that people see what he really is.

OK, I'll bite, so how did the demonstration show that Trump is a king, since that stupidity is what you choose to believe?
 

More love and tolerance from the "NO KINGS" people

North Carolina accountant opens fire on MAGA supporter who had a Trump sign in his yard
 

Zeets2 » 20 Oct 2025, 1:11 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Oct 2025, 1:11 pm

OK, I'll bite, so how did the demonstration show that Trump is a king, since that stupidity is what you choose to believe?

I take it you are not stupid, you are trying to alter reality.

here is an explanation by someone who went to a rally.
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“It seems to me, (Trump is) taking our government, our democracy, and dismantling it piece by piece, slowly, but surely, if we sit by and don’t do anything about it,” Cole said.The event was one of more than 2,700 “No Kings” rallies held across the country on Saturday, protesting what organizers describe as President Donald Trump’s “authoritarian” agenda. That’s hundreds more events than were planned for the first go-round in June, when about 5 million people across the country took to the streets to protest Trump’s administration as he held a military parade in Washington.Nearly 7 million people showed up for Saturday’s rallies – including more than 100,000 people in New York, organizers and officials said. Along with larger events in major cities, small pockets of “No Kings” protesters cropped up along busy thoroughfares, in small town squares and at municipal parks in red and blue states alike.
 

Zeets2 » 20 Oct 2025, 1:04 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Oct 2025, 1:04 pm

By what metric do you figure that?
To be called a success, don't you agree that it would have had to change or even slightly adjust SOMETHING the participants were hoping to achieve?

So how can you consider something a success when all it could possibly merit is a participation trophy?    
Are you SO desperate for a liberal win that it's made you happier today?
Was THAT your only goal?

good grief. 

rallies do not change things automatically.

who ever told you that?

jerrab » 20 Oct 2025, 1:05 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Oct 2025, 1:05 pm

soros did not fund the rallies and it is not antifa. you did not watch the video.

I watched a couple of minutes and clicked off when the lies and **** began.
That was all I needed to confirm the truth that you want to try and deny, starting with how Soros funded it:

Time to educate you once again, apparently:

Decoded: The Real Story Behind No Kings—Funding, Scandals & Political Coordination
Legal Insider Oct 18, 2025

THE FUNDING SOURCES: Following the Money 1. George Soros & Open Society Foundations
  VERIFIED

The Facts:

• George Soros’ Open Society Foundations awarded a $3 million grant in 2023 to Indivisible, the primary organization behind the “No Kings” protests
• In total, the Open Society Foundations have awarded $7.61 million in grants to Indivisible between the group’s founding in 2017 and 2023
• This makes OSF one of the largest consistent funders of Indivisible’s operations

What Soros Says About It: “We support a wide range of independent organizations that work to deepen civic engagement through peaceful democratic participation, a hallmark of any vibrant society and a right protected by the Constitution,” a spokesperson for the Open Society Foundations told Fox News

Next, are you going to try to deny that Antifa infiltrated many of the demonstrations?
Let me nip that **** in the bud before you make any more statements confirming how gullible you really are:

THE RUMOR: “Antifa Will Infiltrate the Protests and Cause Violence”
PARTIALLY TRUE

What Federal Officials Said:

• According to the Los Angeles Police Department, 38 individuals were arrested in connection with the No Kings protests in June. Charges ranged from vandalism to assault on police officers. Despite no direct link to the “No Kings” leadership, federal officials alleged antifa was responsible for embedding into the demonstration, leading to violence

 

Antifa Orders Members to Infiltrate 'No Kings' Protests to Unleash 'True Antifascism'Alicia Powe  October 20, 2025

The radical left is at it again.

Antifa, the domestic terrorism outfit, is stirring the pot near the ICE facility in Portland, distributing flyers urging militants to infiltrate Saturday’s "No Kings" march.

"Calling all PNW anarchists and antifascists. October 18th to revive a black bloc contingent and restore a diversity of tactics in PDX," the flyers, emblazoned with an anarchist "A" and Chaos Star, declare.