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Just thought I would drop some more education to the pro-Israeli crowd out there. Yeah, Israel definitely loves America. Unfortunately, it's not the kind of love that expresses loyalty. More like the kind of love a pimp has for his prostitutes. 

In short:
1. Espionage on American soil.
2. Uses our assistance for humanitarian aid for themselves.
3. Israel has helped our enemies.
4. The US gives billions to Israel for their military, then they use it to commit human rights violations.
5. Deliberately manipulate and cover up the oversights on how our funds to them are used. 

U.S. counterintelligence officials consistently rank Israeli espionage as among the most active on American soil, alongside larger countries such as China and Russia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_e ... hatgpt.com

 

Diversion / Misuse of U.S. Military Assistance

• The Government Accountability Office (GAO) found multiple cases of irregularities or misuse in U.S. foreign military assistance to Israel.
• These included lack of documentation and potential over-billing.

https://www.gao.gov/products/t-osi-94-9 ... hatgpt.com

Human Rights Oversight & Leahy Law Concerns

• U.S. law (the Leahy Law) bars assistance to foreign military units accused of gross human-rights violations.
• Reports show Israel is often given exceptions or delayed reviews.
  
  https://www.stimson.org/2023/law-and-po ... hatgpt.com

 

Strategic and Ethical Misalignment

• The U.S. gives billions in military aid and missile-defense funding.
• However, analysts argue the U.S. has limited leverage over how that aid is used, even when Israeli operations contradict U.S. diplomatic goals.
  
  
  https://www.congress.gov/crs_external_p ... hatgpt.com

 

Transparency Concerns During Recent Conflicts

• Human-rights groups and U.S. oversight offices have flagged a slow and inconsistent review process of Israeli military units.
• This raises questions about accountability and compliance with U.S. aid laws.

https://www.justsecurity.org/95584/nsm- ... hatgpt.com

Well?

Vegas » 02 Nov 2025, 11:41 am » wrote: ↑

02 Nov 2025, 11:41 am

Well?

You and I have exchanged ideas regarding this topic via Private Message. I commend you for initiating this thread. Unfortunately, there are numerous individuals on this platform who lack chutzpah.

 

In the upcoming videos, you will gain insights into Israel's espionage activities concerning the USA (despite the fact that we provide Israel with financial support) and the influence of AIPAC. In a sense, Ted is acknowledging that his allegiance lies with Israel rather than the USA.

https://youtu.be/YASYaPgDKLU

https://youtu.be/VS5rNm9MF5s
 

Vegas » 02 Nov 2025, 11:41 am » wrote: ↑

02 Nov 2025, 11:41 am

Well?

I would spy on Biden's Administration also until I got a friend in the White House.

Roshambo » 02 Nov 2025, 12:13 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Nov 2025, 12:13 pm

You and I have exchanged ideas regarding this topic via Private Message. I commend you for initiating this thread. Unfortunately, there are numerous individuals on this platform who lack chutzpah.

You also labor under the impression that Democrats are friends of America. 

RebelGator » 02 Nov 2025, 12:28 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Nov 2025, 12:28 pm

You also labor under the impression that Democrats are friends of America.

I am burdened by the reality that America provides support to Israel irrespective of the political party in power.
 
Take a stand! 
 

Roshambo » 02 Nov 2025, 12:33 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Nov 2025, 12:33 pm

I am burdened by the reality that America provides support to Israel irrespective of the political party in power.
 
Take a stand!

As we do for scores of other countries that offer nothing in return. 
 

RebelGator » 02 Nov 2025, 12:40 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Nov 2025, 12:40 pm

As we do for scores of other countries that offer nothing in return.

Cletus... that isn't MAGA    is it?
 

Vegas » 31 Oct 2025, 11:13 am » wrote: ↑

31 Oct 2025, 11:13 am

Just thought I would drop some more education to the pro-Israeli crowd out there. Yeah, Israel definitely loves America. Unfortunately, it's not the kind of love that expresses loyalty. More like the kind of love a pimp has for his prostitutes. 

In short:
1. Espionage on American soil.
2. Uses our assistance for humanitarian aid for themselves.
3. Israel has helped our enemies.
4. The US gives billions to Israel for their military, then they use it to commit human rights violations.
5. Deliberately manipulate and cover up the oversights on how our funds to them are used.

Let's not forget that Israel commits genocide.

https://youtu.be/DOzE966AlfY 
 

To whom do these elected officials owe their allegiance? Israel or the USA? It certainly cannot be both.

The Israel Lobby in Us Congress

https://www.trackaipac.com/congress
 

When Marjorie Taylor Greene voices her indignation, it ought to capture our focus. Does she not embody the MAGA movement to its fullest extent?

https://youtu.be/t0fB7MmrKDc
https://youtu.be/IGfOuOtwRFo

 
 

Vegas » 31 Oct 2025, 11:13 am » wrote: ↑

31 Oct 2025, 11:13 am

Just thought I would drop some more education to the pro-Israeli crowd out there. Yeah, Israel definitely loves America. Unfortunately, it's not the kind of love that expresses loyalty. More like the kind of love a pimp has for his prostitutes. 

In short:
1. Espionage on American soil.
2. Uses our assistance for humanitarian aid for themselves.
3. Israel has helped our enemies.
4. The US gives billions to Israel for their military, then they use it to commit human rights violations.
5. Deliberately manipulate and cover up the oversights on how our funds to them are used.

I concluded that it was appropriate at this time to contribute to this discussion. How can we remain silent when Israel has influence over Congress?

 https://youtu.be/PATo9xrK0OY
 

Roshambo » 02 Nov 2025, 3:12 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Nov 2025, 3:12 pm

Let's not forget that Israel commits genocide.

 

Apparently you wouldn't know genocide from herbicide.

RebelGator » 02 Nov 2025, 3:32 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Nov 2025, 3:32 pm

Apparently you wouldn't know genocide from herbicide.

I am aware of the need to apply herbicide to your family roots, which consists of weeds, scrub to be exact.
 
 
 

Roshambo » 02 Nov 2025, 3:12 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Nov 2025, 3:12 pm

Let's not forget that Israel commits genocide.

https://youtu.be/DOzE966AlfY

Oh my God. This is beyond evil.

Roshambo » 02 Nov 2025, 3:24 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Nov 2025, 3:24 pm

I concluded that it was appropriate at this time to contribute to this discussion. How can we remain silent when Israel has influence over Congress?

 https://youtu.be/PATo9xrK0OY

This has been going on for decades and we just sit back and allow it.

RebelGator » 02 Nov 2025, 3:32 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Nov 2025, 3:32 pm

Apparently you wouldn't know genocide from herbicide.

here is thing, Rebel. Something tells me that you could be front and center of these atrocities and you still would say "But they deserve it. They shoot rockets at Israel." Though I have educated you many times behind that history, it wouldn't matter to you.

Vegas » 03 Nov 2025, 10:39 am » wrote: ↑

03 Nov 2025, 10:39 am

This has been going on for decades and we just sit back and allow it.

This is what it will take to stop it.

vote them out

The Israel Lobby in Us Congress

https://www.trackaipac.com/congress
 

Roshambo » 03 Nov 2025, 11:52 am » wrote: ↑

03 Nov 2025, 11:52 am

This is what it will take to stop it.

vote them out

The Israel Lobby in Us Congress

https://www.trackaipac.com/congress

That's a great website. Americans need to know more about it. They first need to admit that they were wrong about Israel, otherwise they will keep them in.