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MR-7 » 10 Nov 2025, 11:51 am » wrote: ↑

10 Nov 2025, 11:51 am

Ask the 45 million on Obamacare? Sure.

Ask them how premiums skyrocketed.
Ask them why deductibles are so high they avoid using it.
Ask them why rural hospitals are closing and networks are shrinking.

Trump didn’t need to gut Obamacare in this shutdown......He let the Democrats implode trying to protect it.
They shut down the government, held federal workers hostage, and still walked away with zero wins. 

no … ask them what they will do until the republicans come up with the replacement plan

RebelGator » 10 Nov 2025, 11:01 am » wrote: ↑

10 Nov 2025, 11:01 am

Nope....I'll ask the other 300 million that feel the pain of paying for it.

  that number ain’t mathin 

Zeets2 » 10 Nov 2025, 12:12 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Nov 2025, 12:12 pm

OK, let's ask them right after those subsidies are cancelled and their premiums go up yet AGAIN, this time more than DOUBLING for many in just a few weeks time!  Hopefully, Republicans will kill those subsidies and let that happen while simultaneously putting together the replacement plan that people can vote for once Obamacare is repealed!

What more will it take for dedicated liberals like you to finally admit what a failure Obamacare is and always was, and it should be repealed as quickly as possible?  Gullible Americans like you swallowed the hundreds of lies about how great Obamacare would be, and now the reality has gob-smacked you upside your empty heads, hasn't it?

Maybe now you'll realize how badly lying Democrat scum like Obama, Hillary, Biden, and Kamala have destroyed your party, but I doubt it!

Democrats simply refuse to learn the lessons from history, and we're seeing the proof right now as so many of them embrace communism and socialism!  I thank God they have so little power in government today!

  According to tRump

”they have a concept of a plan”   
 

Mrkelly » 10 Nov 2025, 12:35 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Nov 2025, 12:35 pm

no … ask them what they will do until the republicans come up with the replacement plan

What will they do until Republicans come up with a replacement?
 Obamacare isn’t Trump’s problem. It’s a legacy mess built by Democrats, and they’ve spent years defending it while ignoring its failures. Trump didn’t create the skyrocketing premiums, the $7,000 deductibles, or the collapsing rural networks. He inherited that disaster.And in this shutdown? He didn’t need to fix it—he just exposed it. Democrats shut down the government to protect a broken system, held federal workers hostage, and walked away with zero wins. Trump’s strategy was simple: Let them self-destruct defending their own failure.

Anything else I can school you on Kelly? 

Mrkelly » 10 Nov 2025, 12:39 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Nov 2025, 12:39 pm

  According to tRump

”they have a concept of a plan” 

Oh, so you'd rather that they make up a few hundred lies about it like every Democrat from Obama on down did, telling you about how great Obamacare would be?  You mean you don't feel foolish for being so gullible to believe a scumbag like Obama when he told you that you could keep your doctor, keep your healthcare insurance, and save $2500 a year, but DIDN'T believe it when every Republican told you how bad it was and voted against it?  But now you want some kind of guarantee that you'll never believe if it came from the Trump administration anyway?  Tell me why the hell Trump should even bother bringing in Democrats to construct a new plan when they didn't accept ANYTHING that Republicans wanted in Obamacare?

Those Democrat idiots you continue to vote for had their chance to provide a good healthcare plan and they blew it big time!  So now, just like Obama once said, "they need to sit in the back of the car while we drive!". AND SHUT THE **** UP!!!  And the new plan should start with two provisions.  One, NO FREE HEALTHCARE FOR ILLEGALS, and two, NO FREE ABORTIONS FOR ANYONE!  

Can't you just hear the Democrats squealing like stuck pigs?    
 

Mrkelly » 10 Nov 2025, 12:35 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Nov 2025, 12:35 pm

no … ask them what they will do until the republicans come up with the replacement plan

All you do is see how many faults you can find on TRUMP. TRUMP this, TRUMP that. And every day, TRUMP slaps the **** out of you mother ****. And every day, you find something else to BITCH about on TRUMP. TRUMP, the GREATEST POTUS in my 60+years.    Maybe you should consider relocating Kelly..............

 

MR-7 » 10 Nov 2025, 1:23 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Nov 2025, 1:23 pm

What will they do until Republicans come up with a replacement?
 Obamacare isn’t Trump’s problem. It’s a legacy mess built by Democrats, and they’ve spent years defending it while ignoring its failures. Trump didn’t create the skyrocketing premiums, the $7,000 deductibles, or the collapsing rural networks. He inherited that disaster.And in this shutdown? He didn’t need to fix it—he just exposed it. Democrats shut down the government to protect a broken system, held federal workers hostage, and walked away with zero wins. Trump’s strategy was simple: Let them self-destruct defending their own failure.

Anything else I can school you on Kelly?

  damn you are goofy

I have never said that obomba care was good

a gift for the insurance and pharmaceutical companies is what I have always said

but that’s not the point 

we are where we are

So once tRump gets rid of obomba care for 47 million Americans 

what is tRumps “concept” of a plan?

47 million should just do without until tRump comes up with a plan?

tRump used to say that he was going to “cover everybody, even if it’s not a republican thing to say”

now? … not so much 
 

MR-7 » 10 Nov 2025, 1:49 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Nov 2025, 1:49 pm

All you do is see how many faults you can find on TRUMP. TRUMP this, TRUMP that. And every day, TRUMP slaps the **** out of you mother ****. And every day, you find something else to BITCH about on TRUMP. TRUMP, the GREATEST POTUS in my 60+years.    Maybe you should consider relocating Kelly..............

  Yur TDS is showing 

Zeets2 » 10 Nov 2025, 1:46 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Nov 2025, 1:46 pm

Oh, so you'd rather that they make up a few hundred lies about it like every Democrat from Obama on down did, telling you about how great Obamacare would be?  You mean you don't feel foolish for being so gullible to believe a scumbag like Obama when he told you that you could keep your doctor, keep your healthcare insurance, and save $2500 a year, but DIDN'T believe it when every Republican told you how bad it was and voted against it?  But now you want some kind of guarantee that you'll never believe if it came from the Trump administration anyway?  Tell me why the hell Trump should even bother bringing in Democrats to construct a new plan when they didn't accept ANYTHING that Republicans wanted in Obamacare?

Those Democrat idiots you continue to vote for had their chance to provide a good healthcare plan and they blew it big time!  So now, just like Obama once said, "they need to sit in the back of the car while we drive!". AND SHUT THE **** UP!!!  And the new plan should start with two provisions.  One, NO FREE HEALTHCARE FOR ILLEGALS, and two, NO FREE ABORTIONS FOR ANYONE!  

Can't you just hear the Democrats squealing like stuck pigs?  

  in your little, long winded mind 

what democrats have I voted for?

Mrkelly » 10 Nov 2025, 2:02 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Nov 2025, 2:02 pm

  damn you are goofy

I have never said that obomba care was good

a gift for the insurance and pharmaceutical companies is what I have always said

but that’s not the point 

we are where we are

So once tRump gets rid of obomba care for 47 million Americans 

what is tRumps “concept” of a plan?

47 million should just do without until tRump comes up with a plan?

tRump used to say that he was going to “cover everybody, even if it’s not a republican thing to say”

now? … not so much

Here's the deal Kelly. TRUMP will FIX it. He will FIX it when the time is right. That time is not right at this moment. But I am very positive, that moment will be before Tuesday, November 4, 2026. He always wins. 
 

Mrkelly » 10 Nov 2025, 10:51 am » wrote: ↑

10 Nov 2025, 10:51 am

  so let’s just make ACA worse

NO, lets just SCAP it... BECAUSE, anytime the government (ANY GOVERNMENT) wants to give YOU everything for free, and just wants YOU to give them the power to do it... AND YOU FALL FOR IT ? 

IS EXACTLY like saying, TAKE ALL my FREEDOMS, TAKE ALL my RIGHTS, and TAKE the POWER that was GIVEN me BY GOD, and EVEN TAKE MY LIFE if you want... and GIVE IT ALL to the NEXT Stalin, the NEXT Hitler, the NEXT Castro, Putin, or the POLITE-BUREAU that controls Chi !!  AND GIVE ME NOTHING in return!!

Because JUST as soon as they CONSOLIDATE TOTAL POWER, OVER the PEOPLE... that is EXACTLY what you will GET...

WANT PROOF?  JUST look back thru History... It's happened OVER, and OVER, and OVER again...AND YOU... THINK it will be DIFFERENT THIS TIME ?

NOT A CHANCE... 
 

Mrkelly » 10 Nov 2025, 2:06 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Nov 2025, 2:06 pm

  in your little, long winded mind 

what democrats have I voted for?

I don't know and I couldn't care less!
The fact is that you DEFEND such idiotic liberal policies at every opportunity while professing your hatred for Trump and the Republican party.  So should I be impressed if you instead vote for some 3rd or 4th party nominee who has no chance of winning?  
 

Zeets2 » 10 Nov 2025, 1:46 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Nov 2025, 1:46 pm

Oh, so you'd rather that they make up a few hundred lies about it like every Democrat from Obama on down did, telling you about how great Obamacare would be?  You mean you don't feel foolish for being so gullible to believe a scumbag like Obama when he told you that you could keep your doctor, keep your healthcare insurance, and save $2500 a year, but DIDN'T believe it when every Republican told you how bad it was and voted against it?  But now you want some kind of guarantee that you'll never believe if it came from the Trump administration anyway?  Tell me why the hell Trump should even bother bringing in Democrats to construct a new plan when they didn't accept ANYTHING that Republicans wanted in Obamacare?

Those Democrat idiots you continue to vote for had their chance to provide a good healthcare plan and they blew it big time!  So now, just like Obama once said, "they need to sit in the back of the car while we drive!". AND SHUT THE **** UP!!!  And the new plan should start with two provisions.  One, NO FREE HEALTHCARE FOR ILLEGALS, and two, NO FREE ABORTIONS FOR ANYONE!  

Can't you just hear the Democrats squealing like stuck pigs?  

I posted this article to Kelly...he iggied it like a good librul and continues to bleat lies in futility...


https://www.forbes.com/sites/ritanumero ... -premiums/

MR-7 » 10 Nov 2025, 1:49 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Nov 2025, 1:49 pm

All you do is see how many faults you can find on TRUMP. TRUMP this, TRUMP that. And every day, TRUMP slaps the **** out of you mother ****. And every day, you find something else to BITCH about on TRUMP. TRUMP, the GREATEST POTUS in my 60+years.    Maybe you should consider relocating Kelly..............

Dude, your pic...

Hard to believe the democrats would inflict this kind of suffering on the American people for absolutely nothing

Even harder to believe how Trump could singlehandedly being down the world's entire power structure so effectively


Turns out we were being ruled by the unimaginable stupidity of a small group of out of touch idiots in a suit...

once they started to parade around in dresses and wanting to fondle everyone's children it was over...because WE said so!

ROG62 » 10 Nov 2025, 2:41 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Nov 2025, 2:41 pm

Dude, your pic...

Here's Kelly having just crossed into Mexico....

 
 

Mrkelly » 10 Nov 2025, 10:53 am » wrote: ↑

10 Nov 2025, 10:53 am

Thats what 26 will decide

SO... YOU want a TOTALITARIAN Dictator, on our way to RUSSIAN, CHINESE, or PRNK form of government?

THAT is EXACTLY what a Democrat Vote will lead to... THE DEMS are POWER HUNGRY,,, and just like MANY TOTALITARIAN dictatorships... the SELL it to the people as FREE EVERYTHING, for EVERYBODY... 

Until they GET, and CONSOLIDATE POWER !! 

THEN it will take a BLOODBATH & CIVIL WAR to take it back... 
 

Mrkelly » 10 Nov 2025, 10:19 am » wrote: ↑

10 Nov 2025, 10:19 am

I think the dems got what they needed 

the compromise includes a separate vote on ending the subsidies for obomba care

voters will know just who voted to end them

not just some parlor trick that gives them “plausible deniability”

26  midterms are not that far away 

gonna be interesting to see how this washes out

"I think the dems got what they needed " . . . really?

They didn't need to provide that much ammo.
The little guy has recently become more aware that the dems aren't really the so-called "party of the people".

Spin doctors have plenty to work with on both sides.
I think the dems have to turn up the spin cycle higher than the repubs.

ROG62 » 10 Nov 2025, 2:40 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Nov 2025, 2:40 pm

I posted this article to Kelly...he iggied it like a good librul and continues to bleat lies in futility...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ritanumero ... -premiums/

It's a good article.
Unfortunately, most Democrats ignore facts like these when they're lied to because they're too dumb to understand the consequences of their stupidity.  They'd rather believe the next liberal (or in the case of NYC, the next communist), who tells them what they WANT to hear, knowing how gullible the majority is to believe them!

And that's why I have ZERO sympathy for them when their leaders they elected always fail!
If their voters had a brain, all they'd have to do is to take a look at the hellholes that have been made out of thriving cities like San Francisco, LA, Baltimore, Chicago, Philadelphia, Seattle, and Portland, all the result of the Democrats they put in power, and so they deserve to live in such crime-ridden squalor.  But no, as soon as ANOTHER liberal comes along promising the moon and the stars, they fall right in line behind them cheering every step of the way, and Democrats know this, so why would they bother to change their M.O.?

I'm only a 15 minute drive from NY, and at one time I'd travel into the city for both business and pleasure regularly, having held season tickets for the Yankees for 30 years and doing business throughout Manhattan, Queens, and Staten Island for years.  It's probably been 5 years now since I've gone back, and I certainly won't venture in now that it's a communist state.

Think I'm the only one?   
 

Zeets2 » 10 Nov 2025, 3:09 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Nov 2025, 3:09 pm

It's a good article.
Unfortunately, most Democrats ignore facts like these when they're lied to because they're too dumb to understand the consequences of their stupidity.  They'd rather believe the next liberal (or in the case of NYC, the next communist), who tells them what they WANT to hear, knowing how gullible the majority is to believe them!

And that's why I have ZERO sympathy for them when their leaders they elected always fail!
If their voters had a brain, all they'd have to do is to take a look at the hellholes that have been made out of thriving cities like San Francisco, LA, Baltimore, Chicago, Philadelphia, Seattle, and Portland, all the result of the Democrats they put in power, and so they deserve to live in such crime-ridden squalor.  But no, as soon as ANOTHER liberal comes along promising the moon and the stars, they fall right in line behind them cheering every step of the way, and Democrats know this, so why would they bother to change their M.O.?

I'm only a 15 minute drive from NY, and at one time I'd travel into the city for both business and pleasure regularly, having held season tickets for the Yankees for 30 years and doing business throughout Manhattan, Queens, and Staten Island for years.  It's probably been 5 years now since I've gone back, and I certainly won't venture in now that it's a communist state.

Think I'm the only one?

The article’s message is clear: while the ACA aimed to expand coverage, its design triggered market consolidation that’s now driving up costs and limiting consumer options.