Liberal Forum

DeezerShoove » 11 Nov 2025, 4:29 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Nov 2025, 4:29 pm

That would be an interesting thread:

If the world really finally takes a complete smelly **** (LowIQTrash wish)
then who will lose it and leap into Death's Arms first?
Libs or Cons?

Seems to me libs would choose Death's welcoming embrace first.
Just a feeling; no specific reason... yet.

HEY... THAT might solve EVERYBODY'S PROBLEM !!

1.  Conservatives can live in PEACE... in a world where RIGHT is RIGHT, and WRONG is WRONG, and

2.  Liberals can END their LIFE of CONSTANTLY being CONFLICTED... where RIGHT is ALWAYS WRONG, GOOD is ALWAYS BAD, and HATE & CONFLICT ALWAYS PREVAIL... WHILE LIFE ITSELF is ONE CONSTANT SCREW UP !!

WHAT do you THINK ??

Zeets2 » 11 Nov 2025, 10:48 am » wrote: ↑

11 Nov 2025, 10:48 am

Kelly just refuses to accept that reality, though he doesn't even believe it himself!  If he didn't believe illegals got free healthcare, he'd simply call up any hospital in the US and ask them directly if he would be denied care if he was an illegal alien. Then he'd learn that ALL hospitals MUST treat ANY AND ALL PATIENTS BY LAW regardless of their immigration status. At a cost to Medicaid for tens of billions that we the taxpayers must eat!

Keeping one's fingers in his ears and his eyes closed as he hums to drown out the facts he doesn't want to hear is a major symptom of all liberals who have contracted terminal TDS.  And another 3 years of Trump might very well have many of them jumping in front of a bus to end it all! 

  still waiting for you to show me where that was in the bill

that WAS my question that you guys have tap danced all around 

I wish ANY dem had the balls to do so

because hospitals are obligated to treat you (then come after you for the money)

you think this is the best the “richest country in the world “ can do to help the broke people ?   

like I said

lets see what your republicans do when it comes down to a vote on getting rid of the subsidies 

cant hide behind “ I had to vote for it … it was in the bill to open the government back up”

let’s see them tell their constituents that they are voting to end the subsidies 

and more than double their cost for healthcare coverage 

because “obomba care is too expensive”   

And all tRump has said is “we have a concept of a plan”   

BEST THEATRE EVER   
 

Mrkelly » 15 Nov 2025, 1:42 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Nov 2025, 1:42 pm

  still waiting for you to show me where that was in the bill

that WAS my question that you guys have tap danced all around 

I wish ANY dem had the balls to do so

because hospitals are obligated to treat you (then come after you for the money)

you think this is the best the “richest country in the world “ can do to help the broke people ?   

like I said

lets see what your republicans do when it comes down to a vote on getting rid of the subsidies 

cant hide behind “ I had to vote for it … it was in the bill to open the government back up”

let’s see them tell their constituents that they are voting to end the subsidies 

and more than double their cost for healthcare coverage 

because “obomba care is too expensive”   

And all tRump has said is “we have a concept of a plan”   

BEST THEATRE EVER 

hospitals might treat but big bills come later in the mail.

Mrkelly » 15 Nov 2025, 1:42 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Nov 2025, 1:42 pm

  still waiting for you to show me where that was in the bill

that WAS my question that you guys have tap danced all around 

I wish ANY dem had the balls to do so

because hospitals are obligated to treat you (then come after you for the money)

you think this is the best the “richest country in the world “ can do to help the broke people ?   

like I said

lets see what your republicans do when it comes down to a vote on getting rid of the subsidies 

cant hide behind “ I had to vote for it … it was in the bill to open the government back up”

let’s see them tell their constituents that they are voting to end the subsidies 

and more than double their cost for healthcare coverage 

because “obomba care is too expensive”   

And all tRump has said is “we have a concept of a plan”   

BEST THEATRE EVER 

Do you remember the 2013 lie of the year? I do:


"If you like your health care plan, you can keep it," President Barack Obama said -- many times -- of his landmark new law.
 But the promise was impossible to keep.
 So this fall, as cancellation letters were going out to approximately 4 million Americans, the public realized Obama’s breezy assurances were wrong.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2013 ... n-keep-it/

Also, why does Obamacare need continued subsidies when our HC costs go up each year?


 

Mrkelly » 15 Nov 2025, 1:42 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Nov 2025, 1:42 pm

  still waiting for you to show me where that was in the bill

that WAS my question that you guys have tap danced all around 

I wish ANY dem had the balls to do so

because hospitals are obligated to treat you (then come after you for the money)

you think this is the best the “richest country in the world “ can do to help the broke people ?   

like I said

lets see what your republicans do when it comes down to a vote on getting rid of the subsidies 

cant hide behind “ I had to vote for it … it was in the bill to open the government back up”

let’s see them tell their constituents that they are voting to end the subsidies 

and more than double their cost for healthcare coverage 

because “obomba care is too expensive”   

And all tRump has said is “we have a concept of a plan”   

BEST THEATRE EVER 

Here you go, dickhead!
Nothing I enjoy more than showing how truly ignorant liberals are:

The American Rescue Plan Act and Inflation Reduction Act increased the ACA subsidies temporarily from 2021 through 2025. These enhanced subsidies cover the full cost of a benchmark premium for those between 100% and 150% of FPL.  The enhanced subsidies are theoretically available to even very high-income enrollees, with no income cutoff; however, few very high earners likely face premiums above the 8.5% of income threshold. These enhanced subsidies are set to expire at the end of 2025.

Under the original Affordable Care Act (ACA), premium tax credits (subsidies) were designed to be permanent but were subject to changes in legislation. However, the enhanced subsidies introduced during the COVID-19 pandemic are set to expire at the end of 2025.

And only ignorant Democrats believe that REPUBLICANS will pay a political price if they end the subsidies AS IS CURRENTLY THE LAW!  This was a DEMOCRAT PLAN with ZERO SUPPORT FROM REPUBLICANS who all told the country how it was destined to fail, so DEMOCRATS ALONE will suffer now from it's failure, while President Trump and the Republicans in Congress can repeal it and replace it with something better, and they WILL PROVIDE THAT PLAN in the next budget agreement, for which Democrats will no doubt shut down the government once again as they're relegated to sit in the back of the car and let Republicans drive, just like your idiot Obama forced Republicans to do when HE dumped his pile of lies and **** on the country about how great Obamacare would be, telling you gullible morons how you'll be able to keep your doctor, keep your healthcare insurance, and save $2500 a year, which have all now been proven to be blatant lies that Republicans warned you about!

So you stupid Democrats GOT THE HEALTHCARE PLAN YOU DEMANDED, and now that it's failed, YOU OWN IT!  
Either accept the fact that it's your own damn fault and enjoy it, or shut the **** up as Trump and the Republicans fix it!

Mrkelly » 15 Nov 2025, 1:42 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Nov 2025, 1:42 pm

  still waiting for you to show me where that was in the bill

that WAS my question that you guys have tap danced all around 

I wish ANY dem had the balls to do so

because hospitals are obligated to treat you (then come after you for the money)

you think this is the best the “richest country in the world “ can do to help the broke people ?   

like I said

lets see what your republicans do when it comes down to a vote on getting rid of the subsidies 

cant hide behind “ I had to vote for it … it was in the bill to open the government back up”

let’s see them tell their constituents that they are voting to end the subsidies 

and more than double their cost for healthcare coverage 

because “obomba care is too expensive”   

And all tRump has said is “we have a concept of a plan”   

BEST THEATRE EVER 

All that matters right now is the message. And that message is the ACA “failed” to deliver sustainable, and affordable healthcare. I know I'm doing my part for getting this message out, and I will continue to do so. 

 
 

Zeets2 » 15 Nov 2025, 3:16 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Nov 2025, 3:16 pm

Here you go, dickhead!
Nothing I enjoy more than showing how truly ignorant liberals are:

And only ignorant Democrats believe that REPUBLICANS will pay a political price if they end the subsidies AS IS CURRENTLY THE LAW!  This was a DEMOCRAT PLAN with ZERO SUPPORT FROM REPUBLICANS who all told the country how it was destined to fail, so DEMOCRATS ALONE will suffer now from it's failure, while President Trump and the Republicans in Congress can repeal it and replace it with something better, and they WILL PROVIDE THAT PLAN in the next budget agreement, for which Democrats will no doubt shut down the government once again as they're relegated to sit in the back of the car and let Republicans drive, just like your idiot Obama forced Republicans to do when HE dumped his pile of lies and **** on the country about how great Obamacare would be, telling you gullible morons how you'll be able to keep your doctor, keep your healthcare insurance, and save $2500 a year, which have all now been proven to be blatant lies that Republicans warned you about!

So you stupid Democrats GOT THE HEALTHCARE PLAN YOU DEMANDED, and now that it's failed, YOU OWN IT!  
Either accept the fact that it's your own damn fault and enjoy it, or shut the **** up as Trump and the Republicans fix it!

  You are one long winded  ****

you butted in when I asked for proof that the dems had the balls to include free healthcare for ILLEGALS in the shut down debates

AS HAS BEEN CLAIMED  BY ALL RIGHT WING NEWS … AND tRUMP … AND YOU GUYS

  And you haven’t shut up yet with some convoluted BUTWHATABOUT   
 
 
 

MR-7 » 15 Nov 2025, 3:49 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Nov 2025, 3:49 pm

All that matters right now is the message. And that message is the ACA “failed” to deliver sustainable, and affordable healthcare. I know I'm doing my part for getting this message out, and I will continue to do so. 

I agree

 now let’s see the republicans vote to more than double the price of it

with no plan

with a crucial vote coming up next year 

ain’t no way that is gonna happen

talking the evils of obomba care works

doubling the price will not

 

Mrkelly » 15 Nov 2025, 5:16 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Nov 2025, 5:16 pm

I agree

 now let’s see the republicans vote to more than double the price of it

with no plan

with a crucial vote coming up next year 

ain’t no way that is gonna happen

talking the evils of obomba care works

doubling the price will not

You're a socialist pinhead.....you think you should have another person's money because you don't have any. The reason you don't have any is exemplified in the way you post, wishing for everyone to cover your *** and take care of you, when they lay the facts out for you, your answer is nonsensical babbling with no evidence that you even began to understand the responses.
 

Let me get this straight the Democrats all voted for ACA now it’s not affordable so they want to throw more money at it? Is that gonna fix it?

RebelGator » 15 Nov 2025, 5:48 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Nov 2025, 5:48 pm

You're a socialist pinhead.....you think you should have another person's money because you don't have any. The reason you don't have any is exemplified in the way you post, wishing for everyone to cover your *** and take care of you, when they lay the facts out for you, your answer is nonsensical babbling with no evidence that you even began to understand the responses.

Shhhhhh … the adults are talking 

I have my own 

I know it’s beyond your comprehension that I can want good things for other people 

But that’s just the cuck in you talking

you will grow up someday 

ConservativeWave » 10 Nov 2025, 10:06 am » wrote: ↑

10 Nov 2025, 10:06 am

AND, it was ALL the Democrats FAULT !

It's like De-Ja-Vu all over again !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN5b3PWezqg
 

Mrkelly » 15 Nov 2025, 5:11 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Nov 2025, 5:11 pm

  You are one long winded  ****

you butted in when I asked for proof that the dems had the balls to include free healthcare for ILLEGALS in the shut down debates

AS HAS BEEN CLAIMED  BY ALL RIGHT WING NEWS … AND tRUMP … AND YOU GUYS

  And you haven’t shut up yet with some convoluted BUTWHATABOUT 

Hey stupid!
How is it that the proof you demanded is "convoluted" when it clearly shows that ALL 10 DEMOCRAT 2024 CANDIDATES raised their hands in response to the question of whether they approved and supported giving free healthcare to illegals?

Now, you need to see the breakdown of the $1.5 TRILLION your Democrat idiots wanted before they reopened the government, which would have only covered a single month before the next budget took effect?  Here's the list, noting the first item on that list is to restore the free healthcare for illegals that you don't believe was included:The Democrat Counterfeit Resolution:

• Restores taxpayer-funded free healthcare for illegal aliens.
• Props up liberal news programs.
• Prioritizes electric vehicle access to HOV lanes, regardless of vehicle occupancy.
• Removes work requirements for able-bodied, non-working adults on taxpayer-funded health programs.
• Resumes DEI projects in foreign countries.
• Hands criminals over $1 billion more for taxpayer-funded defense.
• Repeals $50 billion in rural health care funding, hurting hospitals and clinics in vulnerable communities.
• Reverses lawful executive actions made by the President.
• Rescinds border security measures passed through the Working Families Tax Cuts.
• Usurps the President’s authority over emergency funds.
• Locks in Biden Administration grant policies in direct contrast to President Trump’s executive orders.
• Handcuffs the Trump Administration’s ability to make agile decisions.
• Burdens Trump Administration officials with added bureaucracy meant to slow down progress.
• Includes $1.5 trillion in new spending for just a month of keeping government funding extended.A

And here's Senator Kennedy's list of pure pork in that Democrat demand:・Over $4 million for LGBTQ projects in the Balkans and Uganda・$3.6 million for cooking and dance workshops for male sex workers in Haiti・$500,000 to purchase electric buses in Rwanda・$6 million to subsidize Palestinian media outlets・More than $833,000 for transgender training initiatives in Nepal・$300,000 to sponsor a pride parade in Lesotho・Nearly $900,000 for mentorship and social media programs in Serbia・$3 million for circumcision and sterilization programs in Zambia

So, have you got the guts to defend all the new spending your leftist idiots wanted to pay for and shut down the government with their demands?
 

Zeets2 » 16 Nov 2025, 10:32 am » wrote: ↑

16 Nov 2025, 10:32 am

Hey stupid!
How is it that the proof you demanded is "convoluted" when it clearly shows that ALL 10 DEMOCRAT 2024 CANDIDATES raised their hands in response to the question of whether they approved and supported giving free healthcare to illegals?

Now, you need to see the breakdown of the $1.5 TRILLION your Democrat idiots wanted before they reopened the government, which would have only covered a single month before the next budget took effect?  Here's the list, noting the first item on that list is to restore the free healthcare for illegals that you don't believe was included:The Democrat Counterfeit Resolution:

• Restores taxpayer-funded free healthcare for illegal aliens.
• Props up liberal news programs.
• Prioritizes electric vehicle access to HOV lanes, regardless of vehicle occupancy.
• Removes work requirements for able-bodied, non-working adults on taxpayer-funded health programs.
• Resumes DEI projects in foreign countries.
• Hands criminals over $1 billion more for taxpayer-funded defense.
• Repeals $50 billion in rural health care funding, hurting hospitals and clinics in vulnerable communities.
• Reverses lawful executive actions made by the President.
• Rescinds border security measures passed through the Working Families Tax Cuts.
• Usurps the President’s authority over emergency funds.
• Locks in Biden Administration grant policies in direct contrast to President Trump’s executive orders.
• Handcuffs the Trump Administration’s ability to make agile decisions.
• Burdens Trump Administration officials with added bureaucracy meant to slow down progress.
• Includes $1.5 trillion in new spending for just a month of keeping government funding extended.A

And here's Senator Kennedy's list of pure pork in that Democrat demand:・Over $4 million for LGBTQ projects in the Balkans and Uganda・$3.6 million for cooking and dance workshops for male sex workers in Haiti・$500,000 to purchase electric buses in Rwanda・$6 million to subsidize Palestinian media outlets・More than $833,000 for transgender training initiatives in Nepal・$300,000 to sponsor a pride parade in Lesotho・Nearly $900,000 for mentorship and social media programs in Serbia・$3 million for circumcision and sterilization programs in Zambia

So, have you got the guts to defend all the new spending your leftist idiots wanted to pay for and shut down the government with their demands?

  Does ANY  of this show me where the dems argued for obomba care for ILLEGALS, causing the shutdown ? 

Like people claim?

[img]blob:ce5b32f8-1c04-4436-b96c-4c50c3239ec4[/img]
https://i.imgflip.com/24l5l2.jpg
 

Mrkelly » 16 Nov 2025, 10:57 am » wrote: ↑

16 Nov 2025, 10:57 am

  Does ANY  of this show me where the dems argued for obomba care for ILLEGALS, causing the shutdown ? 

Like people claim?

[img]blob:ce5b32f8-1c04-4436-b96c-4c50c3239ec4[/img]
https://i.imgflip.com/24l5l2.jpg

yes it does 

Mrkelly » 16 Nov 2025, 10:57 am » wrote: ↑

16 Nov 2025, 10:57 am

  Does ANY  of this show me where the dems argued for obomba care for ILLEGALS, causing the shutdown ? 

Like people claim?

[img]blob:ce5b32f8-1c04-4436-b96c-4c50c3239ec4[/img]
https://i.imgflip.com/24l5l2.jpg

Oh, so in YOUR feeble mind, it only matters if a Democrat MAKES AN ARGUMENT to support their desire to give free healthcare to illegals?
Not their actions and what they demand on paper?
Care to show me evidence of where you came to the idiotic conclusion that they were against it like I proved how they all supported it?
Do you deny that Schumer's demands included restoring ALL THE CUTS TO MEDICAID, where there is roughly a $200 BILLION cost to Medicaid to pay for illegals?
 

Zeets2 » 16 Nov 2025, 12:09 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Nov 2025, 12:09 pm

Oh, so in YOUR feeble mind, it only matters if a Democrat MAKES AN ARGUMENT to support their desire to give free healthcare to illegals?
Not their actions and what they demand on paper?
Care to show me evidence of where you came to the idiotic conclusion that they were against it like I proved how they all supported it?
Do you deny that Schumer's demands included restoring ALL THE CUTS TO MEDICAID, where there is roughly a $200 BILLION cost to Medicaid to pay for illegals?

Yur funny   

I like you   
 

Mrkelly » 15 Nov 2025, 5:16 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Nov 2025, 5:16 pm

I agree

 now let’s see the republicans vote to more than double the price of it

with no plan

with a crucial vote coming up next year 

ain’t no way that is gonna happen

talking the evils of obomba care works

doubling the price will not

Obamacare (ACA) was a Socialists attempt at UNIVERSAL Healthcare... AND, it was NOT able to do so in ANY WAY while controlling Costs, Abuses, and CORRUPTION... There MAY WELL be a way to do it... but sending America into a $37 Trillion debt, while enriching the Helath-care companies, overlooking the BLATANT CORRUPTION, and costing American Taxpayers MORE and MORE, every YEAR... was a MISTAKE...

As MOST Liberal democrat attempts are policy usually are !!