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By jerra b
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jerrab » 17 Nov 2025, 5:29 pm » wrote: there is new evidence.

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The push for more disclosure in the years-old sex trafficking investigation into Epstein has come roaring back since the House returned to Washington after a nearly two-month absence during the government shutdown. As lawmakers returned last week, they were greeted by new details from a tranche of Epstein’s emails, including claims that Trump had “spent hours” at Epstein’s house with a sex trafficking victim and that he “knew about the girls.”
Epstein’s emails? They may as well be your's  since he can't contradict your claims, Pinocchio.
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jerrab » 17 Nov 2025, 4:51 pm » wrote: more like you will say everything is a lie.

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The push for more disclosure in the years-old sex trafficking investigation into Epstein has come roaring back since the House returned to Washington after a nearly two-month absence during the government shutdown. As lawmakers returned last week, they were greeted by new details from a tranche of Epstein’s emails, including claims that Trump had “spent hours” at Epstein’s house with a sex trafficking victim and that he “knew about the girls.”
How come you weren't interested in including the rest of that email which identifies the sex trafficking victim Trump met at Epstein's house was Virginia Giuffre, an Epstein survivor who died by suicide earlier this year, but had previously confirmed that Trump was not involved in her abuse?  

Apparently, you Trump-hating idiots enjoy feasting on such nothing burgers as this while under the ridiculous belief that you'll be able to find some evidence of a crime committed by him when EVERY EPSTEIN VICTIM has stated that they NEVER saw Trump on Epstein island, NOR HAD HE EVER been involved in any of the sex crimes that were perpetrated against him!

And you liberal morons can't stand that fact, so your next move will be to continue attacking Trump with the claim that he redacted all mention of his own participation and demand to see everything unredacted, regardless of any privacy issues that the victims are entitled to!  But of course, that's of no consequence to liberals who will never let go of their Trump hatred, no matter how much pain it causes anyone else!

The real question is how much it's going to cost your own Democrat heroes and icons with the revelation, which WILL be revealed.  We already know that scumbags like Bill and Hillary and Barack and Michele were regular visitors to his island, and their biggest donors, scum like Bill Gates and Tom Hanks who no doubt paid MILLIONS to Democrats to keep the files sealed while Biden was president.  So maybe now we'll get to see and hear their victims try to weasel their way out of the criminal charges they could be faced with.

Me, I've got my popcorn ready!
 
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Zeets2 » 18 Nov 2025, 10:41 am » wrote: How come you weren't interested in including the rest of that email which identifies the sex trafficking victim Trump met at Epstein's house was Virginia Giuffre, an Epstein survivor who died by suicide earlier this year, but had previously confirmed that Trump was not involved in her abuse?  

Apparently, you Trump-hating idiots enjoy feasting on such nothing burgers as this while under the ridiculous belief that you'll be able to find some evidence of a crime committed by him when EVERY EPSTEIN VICTIM has stated that they NEVER saw Trump on Epstein island, NOR HAD HE EVER been involved in any of the sex crimes that were perpetrated against him!

And you liberal morons can't stand that fact, so your next move will be to continue attacking Trump with the claim that he redacted all mention of his own participation and demand to see everything unredacted, regardless of any privacy issues that the victims are entitled to!  But of course, that's of no consequence to liberals who will never let go of their Trump hatred, no matter how much pain it causes anyone else!

The real question is how much it's going to cost your own Democrat heroes and icons with the revelation, which WILL be revealed.  We already know that scumbags like Bill and Hillary and Barack and Michele were regular visitors to his island, and their biggest donors, scum like Bill Gates and Tom Hanks who no doubt paid MILLIONS to Democrats to keep the files sealed while Biden was president.  So maybe now we'll get to see and hear their victims try to weasel their way out of the criminal charges they could be faced with.

Me, I've got my popcorn ready!
all trump has to do is release the emails.

you are the one going crazy. why?
 
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Zeets2 » 18 Nov 2025, 10:41 am » wrote: How come you weren't interested in including the rest of that email which identifies the sex trafficking victim Trump met at Epstein's house was Virginia Giuffre, an Epstein survivor who died by suicide earlier this year, but had previously confirmed that Trump was not involved in her abuse?  

Apparently, you Trump-hating idiots enjoy feasting on such nothing burgers as this while under the ridiculous belief that you'll be able to find some evidence of a crime committed by him when EVERY EPSTEIN VICTIM has stated that they NEVER saw Trump on Epstein island, NOR HAD HE EVER been involved in any of the sex crimes that were perpetrated against him!

And you liberal morons can't stand that fact, so your next move will be to continue attacking Trump with the claim that he redacted all mention of his own participation and demand to see everything unredacted, regardless of any privacy issues that the victims are entitled to!  But of course, that's of no consequence to liberals who will never let go of their Trump hatred, no matter how much pain it causes anyone else!

The real question is how much it's going to cost your own Democrat heroes and icons with the revelation, which WILL be revealed.  We already know that scumbags like Bill and Hillary and Barack and Michele were regular visitors to his island, and their biggest donors, scum like Bill Gates and Tom Hanks who no doubt paid MILLIONS to Democrats to keep the files sealed while Biden was president.  So maybe now we'll get to see and hear their victims try to weasel their way out of the criminal charges they could be faced with.

Me, I've got my popcorn ready!
https://www.npr.org/2025/08/01/nx-s1-54 ... mp-epstein
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Zeets2 » 18 Nov 2025, 10:41 am » wrote: How come you weren't interested in including the rest of that email which identifies the sex trafficking victim Trump met at Epstein's house was Virginia Giuffre, an Epstein survivor who died by suicide earlier this year, but had previously confirmed that Trump was not involved in her abuse?  

Apparently, you Trump-hating idiots enjoy feasting on such nothing burgers as this while under the ridiculous belief that you'll be able to find some evidence of a crime committed by him when EVERY EPSTEIN VICTIM has stated that they NEVER saw Trump on Epstein island, NOR HAD HE EVER been involved in any of the sex crimes that were perpetrated against him!

And you liberal morons can't stand that fact, so your next move will be to continue attacking Trump with the claim that he redacted all mention of his own participation and demand to see everything unredacted, regardless of any privacy issues that the victims are entitled to!  But of course, that's of no consequence to liberals who will never let go of their Trump hatred, no matter how much pain it causes anyone else!

The real question is how much it's going to cost your own Democrat heroes and icons with the revelation, which WILL be revealed.  We already know that scumbags like Bill and Hillary and Barack and Michele were regular visitors to his island, and their biggest donors, scum like Bill Gates and Tom Hanks who no doubt paid MILLIONS to Democrats to keep the files sealed while Biden was president.  So maybe now we'll get to see and hear their victims try to weasel their way out of the criminal charges they could be faced with.

Me, I've got my popcorn ready!
why did not trump tell her parents what epstein was like?

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Virginia Giuffre spoke about Jeffrey Epstein's friendship with Presidents Donald Trump and Bill Clinton in her memoir, released six months after her death.Nobody's Girl sparked global headlines, particularly in Britain, over Giuffre's account of being trafficked by convicted sex offender Epstein and his ex-girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell to have sex with Prince Andrew when she was 17. Andrew denies the allegations.Also mentioned in the book are two political heavyweights who have been linked to Epstein and have always maintained they knew nothing about Epstein's sexual exploitation of minors.

https://www.npr.org/2025/08/01/nx-s1-54 ... mp-epstein
 
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jerrab » 18 Nov 2025, 12:17 pm » wrote: why did not trump tell her parents what epstein was like?

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Virginia Giuffre spoke about Jeffrey Epstein's friendship with Presidents Donald Trump and Bill Clinton in her memoir, released six months after her death.Nobody's Girl sparked global headlines, particularly in Britain, over Giuffre's account of being trafficked by convicted sex offender Epstein and his ex-girlfriend Ghislaine Maxwell to have sex with Prince Andrew when she was 17. Andrew denies the allegations. Also mentioned in the book are two political heavyweights who have been linked to Epstein and have always maintained they knew nothing about Epstein's sexual exploitation of minors.

https://www.npr.org/2025/08/01/nx-s1-54 ... mp-epstein
Naturally, because of your insane level of TDS, you make the ridiculous assumption that Trump knew the kind of perverted pedophile that Epstein was, and still accepted an invitation to visit him, despite his repeated denials that he knew anything about Epstein's exploitation of minors AND the fact that EVERY ONE OF EPSTEIN'S VICTIMS has denied EVER seeing Trump involved with any of them.  Besides, the age of consent in NY is 17 anyway, so assuming Epstein's NY home was where Giuffre had sex with anyone, it was not a crime, much to your dismay I'm sure.

Sounds to me like you're sweating over the coming revelation that likely has a phalanx of popular Democrats revealed as to whom have already been outed as participants.  Bet you're wringing your hands with anxiety, aren't you?
 
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Zeets2 » 18 Nov 2025, 1:02 pm » wrote: Naturally, because of your insane level of TDS, you make the ridiculous assumption that Trump knew the kind of perverted pedophile that Epstein was, and still accepted an invitation to visit him, despite his repeated denials that he knew anything about Epstein's exploitation of minors AND the fact that EVERY ONE OF EPSTEIN'S VICTIMS has denied EVER seeing Trump involved with any of them.  Besides, the age of consent in NY is 17 anyway, so assuming Epstein's NY home was where Giuffre had sex with anyone, it was not a crime, much to your dismay I'm sure.

Sounds to me like you're sweating over the coming revelation that likely has a phalanx of popular Democrats revealed as to whom have already been outed as participants.  Bet you're wringing your hands with anxiety, aren't you?

tell that to her  family. he should have told him and they could have talked to her and find out the truth.

 
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"‘Enormous scandal’: Democrats worked with Epstein to remove Trump"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR5hzuKWgaE
 
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Zeets2 » 18 Nov 2025, 1:02 pm » wrote: Naturally, because of your insane level of TDS, you make the ridiculous assumption that Trump knew the kind of perverted pedophile that Epstein was, and still accepted an invitation to visit him, despite his repeated denials that he knew anything about Epstein's exploitation of minors AND the fact that EVERY ONE OF EPSTEIN'S VICTIMS has denied EVER seeing Trump involved with any of them.  Besides, the age of consent in NY is 17 anyway, so assuming Epstein's NY home was where Giuffre had sex with anyone, it was not a crime, much to your dismay I'm sure.

Sounds to me like you're sweating over the coming revelation that likely has a phalanx of popular Democrats revealed as to whom have already been outed as participants.  Bet you're wringing your hands with anxiety, aren't you?
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The push for more disclosure in the years-old sex trafficking investigation into Epstein has come roaring back since the House returned to Washington after a nearly two-month absence during the government shutdown. As lawmakers returned last week, they were greeted by new details from a tranche of Epstein’s emails, including claims that Trump had “spent hours” at Epstein’s house with a sex trafficking victim and that he “knew about the girls.
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Zeets2 » 18 Nov 2025, 1:02 pm » wrote: Naturally, because of your insane level of TDS, you make the ridiculous assumption that Trump knew the kind of perverted pedophile that Epstein was, and still accepted an invitation to visit him, despite his repeated denials that he knew anything about Epstein's exploitation of minors AND the fact that EVERY ONE OF EPSTEIN'S VICTIMS has denied EVER seeing Trump involved with any of them.  Besides, the age of consent in NY is 17 anyway, so assuming Epstein's NY home was where Giuffre had sex with anyone, it was not a crime, much to your dismay I'm sure.

Sounds to me like you're sweating over the coming revelation that likely has a phalanx of popular Democrats revealed as to whom have already been outed as participants.  Bet you're wringing your hands with anxiety, aren't you?

he cared about her as much he cares about the people in gaza.
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roadkill » 18 Nov 2025, 1:07 pm » wrote: "‘Enormous scandal’: Democrats worked with Epstein to remove Trump"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR5hzuKWgaE
your whole video  is biased. as long as the shut down continued the az senator would not be sworn in and her signature was needed to release the epstein files.
 
 
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jerrab » 18 Nov 2025, 1:08 pm » wrote: --------------------------------------------------------------

The push for more disclosure in the years-old sex trafficking investigation into Epstein has come roaring back since the House returned to Washington after a nearly two-month absence during the government shutdown. As lawmakers returned last week, they were greeted by new details from a tranche of Epstein’s emails, including claims that Trump had “spent hours” at Epstein’s house with a sex trafficking victim and that he “knew about the girls.
So the unsubstantiated CLAIM is that Trump "knew" that a 17 year old girl legally had sex with someone at Epstein's house?
Could that claim have come from a woman named Sarah Ransome, who has already admitted that she made up the whole story and filed a false affidavit?

Gotta tell you how much I LOVE seeing you desperate liberal idiots climb out on such thin branches as you've posted!  It will be all the sweeter when the files are revealed to show NOTHING involving Trump, but only indicts those criminals who we already know are perverts, like Bubba, Hillary, George Mitchell, Barrack and Michele, Prince Andrew, Hanks, and Bill Gates!

Here's an idea!  Why don't you post the list of prominent people who YOU think will be disclosed, and then we can compare the two once the list of customers is revealed to see which one of us was more gullible?
I'd be HAPPY to play! 
You?

 
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jerrab » 18 Nov 2025, 12:01 pm » wrote: all trump has to do is release the emails.

you are the one going crazy. why?

you have no credibility.....I know it's hard for you to understand

low info just parroting what the pedo=prog LGBT democrat media says

doesn't know who what where or why...just being a parrot
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nefarious101 » 18 Nov 2025, 2:45 pm » wrote: you have no credibility.....I know it's hard for you to understand

low info just parroting what the pedo=prog LGBT democrat media says

doesn't know who what where or why...just being a parrot

all you do is parrot trump says.

he is the one who tried to get mtg and bobart not to sign.
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jerrab » 18 Nov 2025, 1:09 pm » wrote: he cared about her as much he cares about the people in gaza.
And exactly WHY should he care about a 17 year old having sex with anyone?  
If she's of legal age in that state, of what **** business is it of yours, Trump's, or anyone else?
If she was under age, what proof do you have that Trump was even aware of that?  Would YOU question a woman's age if someone you don't know has had sex with someone else?  Are you even aware that there are often exemptions for someone in what's called "close-in-age"?

You're obviously SO consumed with desperation to try to find a crime you can pin on Trump, yet I guarantee that you won't give two **** if you learn that Barrack or Bubba had gay sex with a young boy or if Hillary and Michele had lesbian sex with under age girls, would you?

And when you're done being so befuddled over coming up with your next phony Trump accusation, you can explain why in the world Trump should be concerned about people in Gaza after he's already done everything possible to get a cease-fire and a peace treaty there, while the Hamas government that the Palestinians of Gaza elected is continuing to murder them?  How come THAT concerns you far more than the 56,000+ Christians and other religions have been murdered in a REAL genocidal war that Muslims are waging in Nigeria?  Those Christians have never waged war against Muslims with daily bombs or burning alive and beheading Jews the way Hamas did to over 1200 innocent Jewish civilian men, women, children, and infants, did they?

Your selective outrage removes any credibility you think you have on the subject, so give it a rest, Jew hater!
 
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jerrab » 18 Nov 2025, 3:25 pm » wrote: all you do is parrot trump says.

he is the one who tried to get mtg and bobart not to sign.

Trump's the closest thing to want I want America to be....rid of illegals and people like you!

If you know of someone who can do a better job of "that" let me know

I can change horses but you can't
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nefarious101 » 18 Nov 2025, 3:30 pm » wrote: Trump's the closest thing to want I want America to be....rid of illegals and people like you!

If you know of someone who can do a better job of "that" let me know

I can change horses but you can't
nope you cant change horses.

if trump does not get  his way he will threaten people and say he  will take away his support.

those are qualities I do not want in a US president and as long as dumb people like you support him he will be in power.

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On Monday, President Trump posted on social media if an Indiana state lawmaker didn't support redistricting, he'll be "strongly endorsing against" them.

 
 
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jerrab » 18 Nov 2025, 3:36 pm » wrote: nope you cant change horses.

if trump does not get  his way he will threaten people and say he  will take away his support.

those are qualities I do not want in a US president and as long as dumb people like you support him he will be in power.

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On Monday, President Trump posted on social media if an Indiana state lawmaker didn't support redistricting, he'll be "strongly endorsing against" them.

oh...you talk for jesus and me now do you?

that makes you a nut

bet you don't even know your real gender at this point....the real one not your fake one
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jerrab » 18 Nov 2025, 12:01 pm » wrote: all trump has to do is release the emails.

you are the one going crazy. why?
Image  South Park shows how tRump will be OK with the tRumpers

 Not so much with real MAGA

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jerrab » 17 Nov 2025, 5:29 pm » wrote: there is new evidence.

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The push for more disclosure in the years-old sex trafficking investigation into Epstein has come roaring back since the House returned to Washington after a nearly two-month absence during the government shutdown. As lawmakers returned last week, they were greeted by new details from a tranche of Epstein’s emails, including claims that Trump had “spent hours” at Epstein’s house with a sex trafficking victim and that he “knew about the girls.”

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