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Blackvegetable » 30 Nov 2025, 8:38 am » wrote: ↑

30 Nov 2025, 8:38 am

They go....to die.

certainly a better place than some democrat run ****...
 

JohnnyYou » 30 Nov 2025, 8:37 am » wrote: ↑

30 Nov 2025, 8:37 am

Lower Crime rates than red states, more educated workers, better education opportunities.  Less child sex traficking rings, more dollars into the fed than taken out.  Less welfare recipients and governement funded health care.

And no Goat Brothels for a Qatarai Military Base.

Basically less  American dumb azz  losers than red states who are blinded into the biggest rip off of their governement feeding tube.

the crime rates in red states is driven by the dem run cities.

MR-7 » 30 Nov 2025, 9:27 am » wrote: ↑

30 Nov 2025, 9:27 am

I mean MY GOD...a duplex is 600,000 **** dollars. Who the **** would live in a duplex? Anybody?

especially one that it's highlight is it's on a swamp...
 

ROG62 » 30 Nov 2025, 11:02 am » wrote: ↑

30 Nov 2025, 11:02 am

especially one that it's highlight is it's on a swamp...

Oh yeah...I had forgotten about that.   
 

ROG62 » 30 Nov 2025, 11:02 am » wrote: ↑

30 Nov 2025, 11:02 am

especially one that it's highlight is it's on a swamp...

One man's swamp is waterfront, another man's swamp is a snake infested, mosquito breeding, non-buildable waste of real estate. BV fell for the waterfront brochure.
 

RebelGator » 30 Nov 2025, 12:13 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Nov 2025, 12:13 pm

One man's swamp is waterfront, another man's swamp is a snake infested, mosquito breeding, non-buildable waste of real estate. BV fell for the waterfront brochure.

BV might still be married if had not promised his wife they would live on a lake, and then buys a **** duplex on some swampy wet land. I'm just sayin.  
 
 

RebelGator » 30 Nov 2025, 12:13 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Nov 2025, 12:13 pm

One man's swamp is waterfront, another man's swamp is a snake infested, mosquito breeding, non-buildable waste of real estate. BV fell for the waterfront brochure.

  hook, line and sinker....  

ROG62 » 30 Nov 2025, 10:59 am » wrote: ↑

30 Nov 2025, 10:59 am

sure link less guy...

You are probably right..   The mom who pimped her kids in the Seven Person Child wanna be little epstiens for drugs child sex trafficking ring in  Alabama probably didn't vote..  But I bet she got SNAP!

I hear nothing like these evil brothels of kid sex toys in blue states.  Mormons in Utah are wierd sometimes.  Stephen Miller is shipping unattended immigrant children to god knows where.  I did hear a caller to the conservative radio talk show that the Trump admin has "rescued" 60,000 of these kids who admittedly were in very bad places.  Where's the claims to the success? Where are these 60,000 kids?  How much do they get for a plane load of live child sex toys?
 
You could complain to @Deezer Shoove   you miss my link content.  I am more than willing to share them and I can in a PM. 
 
 

Huey » 30 Nov 2025, 11:00 am » wrote: ↑

30 Nov 2025, 11:00 am

the crime rates in red states is driven by the dem run cities.

Have you vetted that statement?

The claim that crime rates in red states are driven by Democrat-run cities is a subject of significant political debate, with various studies offering different conclusions depending on their methodology and the data points emphasized. Criminologists and policy experts generally conclude that crime is driven by complex socioeconomic factors (such as poverty and historical context), not mayoral party affiliation alone. 
Key Findings and Perspectives

• Higher Crime Rates in Red States: Multiple analyses from sources like  no spam  and the Center for American Progress indicate that, on average, states that vote Republican have had consistently higher murder rates than states that vote Democratic every year this century.
• The "Blue City" Argument: Organizations like  no spam  argue that within these red states, high crime areas are often specific urban centers (which tend to vote Democrat) and that the policies in these cities are the primary driver of crime. For instance, a Heritage Foundation report found that 27 of the 30 U.S. cities with the highest murder rates as of June 2022 had Democratic mayors.
• Counter-Arguments and Nuance:
  • Poverty and Geography: Other studies counter the "blue city" narrative by showing that even when the largest cities are removed from the data, red states still generally maintain higher murder rates than blue states. This suggests that smaller cities and rural areas in red states also contribute significantly to the overall state crime rate, and that factors like poverty rates are a stronger predictor of crime than political affiliation.
  • Lack of Causal Link: A 2025 study published in Science Advances, which analyzed three decades of data from 400 cities, concluded that a mayor's political affiliation has no detectable impact on police staffing, expenditures, or crime rates.
  • State vs. Local Laws: Some analysts point out that "blue cities in red states" are still subject to state-level laws, such as those related to gun control and social spending, which may play a role in their crime rates. 

National Crime Trends (2024-2025)
Nationally, recent FBI data for 2024 and preliminary data for 2025 indicate significant decreases in violent crime and murder rates across the U.S., a reversal of the spike observed immediately following the COVID-19 pandemic. These declines were seen in cities and states across the political spectrum. 

JohnnyYou » 30 Nov 2025, 7:00 pm » wrote: ↑

30 Nov 2025, 7:00 pm

Have you vetted that statement?

The claim that crime rates in red states are driven by Democrat-run cities is a subject of significant political debate, with various studies offering different conclusions depending on their methodology and the data points emphasized. Criminologists and policy experts generally conclude that crime is driven by complex socioeconomic factors (such as poverty and historical context), not mayoral party affiliation alone. 
Key Findings and Perspectives

• Higher Crime Rates in Red States: Multiple analyses from sources like  no spam  and the Center for American Progress indicate that, on average, states that vote Republican have had consistently higher murder rates than states that vote Democratic every year this century.
• The "Blue City" Argument: Organizations like  no spam  argue that within these red states, high crime areas are often specific urban centers (which tend to vote Democrat) and that the policies in these cities are the primary driver of crime. For instance, a Heritage Foundation report found that 27 of the 30 U.S. cities with the highest murder rates as of June 2022 had Democratic mayors.
• Counter-Arguments and Nuance:
  • Poverty and Geography: Other studies counter the "blue city" narrative by showing that even when the largest cities are removed from the data, red states still generally maintain higher murder rates than blue states. This suggests that smaller cities and rural areas in red states also contribute significantly to the overall state crime rate, and that factors like poverty rates are a stronger predictor of crime than political affiliation.
  • Lack of Causal Link: A 2025 study published in Science Advances, which analyzed three decades of data from 400 cities, concluded that a mayor's political affiliation has no detectable impact on police staffing, expenditures, or crime rates.
  • State vs. Local Laws: Some analysts point out that "blue cities in red states" are still subject to state-level laws, such as those related to gun control and social spending, which may play a role in their crime rates. 

National Crime Trends (2024-2025)
Nationally, recent FBI data for 2024 and preliminary data for 2025 indicate significant decreases in violent crime and murder rates across the U.S., a reversal of the spike observed immediately following the COVID-19 pandemic. These declines were seen in cities and states across the political spectrum.

Have you vetted that statement?

Yes, multiple time with links.  No go away, then adults are talking.

Huey » 01 Dec 2025, 6:13 am » wrote: ↑

01 Dec 2025, 6:13 am

Yes, multiple time with links.  No go away, then adults are talking.

Are you Somali?  Your thought processes seem sub atomically miniscule.

You can't even see the giant dick in the oval cockpit. If it was up your azz you would smile, fart and say  "Have a Trump Day"

 
 

Johnny You » 01 Dec 2025, 7:04 am » wrote: ↑

01 Dec 2025, 7:04 am

Are you Somali?  Your thought processes seem sub atomically miniscule.

You can't even see the giant dick in the oval cockpit. If it was up your azz you would smile, fart and say  "Have a Trump Day"

 
 

Your thought process only recites social consensus combined throughout history of people wishing life were more than simply alive adapting to the moment as eternally separated by their own heart beat now.

Johnny » wrote:

02 Feb 1970, 10:22 am

Huey » 01 Dec 2025, 6:13 am » wrote: ↑

01 Dec 2025, 6:13 am

Yes, multiple time with links.  No go away, then adults are talking.

Are you Somali?  Your thought processes seem sub atomically miniscule.

You can't even see the giant dick in the oval cockpit. If it was up your azz you would smile, fart and say  "Have a Trump Day"

 
 

 

LMAO!  Ignore facts.

Huey » 01 Dec 2025, 8:05 am » wrote: ↑

01 Dec 2025, 8:05 am

LMAO!  Ignore facts.

It's easy when you can't prove them chopper..
 

Texas will be blue in 2026. The gerry mandering project is headed to the supreme court. Looking at distribution of domestic federal aid, it appears to be bipartisan.  I know Maryland is high on the list of takers, but we do baby sit Washington DC. But it looks like Virginia beat us at that game in 2024. b  Spanberger has moolah.

Federal aid distribution is heavily influenced by large-scale events like the COVID-19 pandemic and is primarily driven by formula grants for health programs (Medicaid). In terms of net fiscal balance, states with large federal footprints (military bases, federal jobs) and lower tax bases tend to receive more than they contribute, while highly populous and wealthy states with strong economies are typically net contributors.
Trends in Federal Aid Distribution
Overall Increase, Then Stabilization: Federal grants to states have generally increased steadily over decades, peaking dramatically from 2020-2023 due to COVID-19 relief legislation and the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act. Since then, the total amount and the federal share of state budgets have slightly declined but remain higher than pre-pandemic levels.
Shift to Health Programs: Historically, federal grants focused on transportation and income security. Since the late 1980s, however, a large majority of federal aid has been for health programs, primarily Medicaid.
Formula-Based Distribution: Much of the aid is distributed via formulas written into law that consider factors such as population size, low-income populations, and specific infrastructure needs, which inherently favor certain state demographics and economic conditions.
Which States Take the Most (Net Receivers)
States that receive significantly more in federal spending (grants, contracts, salaries, and benefits) than their residents pay in federal taxes are often those with specific economic or demographic characteristics.
Per Person (FY 2024):
Highest: New Mexico, Alaska, West Virginia. These states receive substantially more federal spending per resident than they pay in taxes.
Total Dollars (FY 2024):
Largest Positive Net Balance: Virginia, Alabama, South Carolina. Virginia's high ranking is often attributed to its large defense contracting sector and proximity to Washington, D.C..
Which States Give the Most (Net Contributors)
States that contribute significantly more in federal taxes than they receive back in federal spending are typically large, high-income states.
Per Person (FY 2024):
Highest Net Contribution: Nebraska, Minnesota, and Washington State were the top per-person net contributors.
Total Dollars (FY 2024):
Largest Negative Net Balance: California, New York, and Texas had the largest overall gaps, sending considerably more to the federal government than they received back.
 
 

JohnnyYou » 01 Dec 2025, 8:07 am » wrote: ↑

01 Dec 2025, 8:07 am

It's easy when you can't prove them chopper..

Start homicide rates:

The big picture: 13 of the 20 U.S. cities with the highest murder rates were in Republican-run states. Many of those cities were run by Democrats who often are at odds with state officials, an Axios analysis of FBI data finds.

https://www.axios.com/2025/08/15/homici ... red-states

 

Huey » 01 Dec 2025, 8:16 am » wrote: ↑

01 Dec 2025, 8:16 am

Start homicide rates:

The big picture: 13 of the 20 U.S. cities with the highest murder rates were in Republican-run states. Many of those cities were run by Democrats who often are at odds with state officials, an Axios analysis of FBI data finds.

https://www.axios.com/2025/08/15/homici ... red-states

Facts mean nothing to a Democrat, they prefer...."alleged", "unnamed sources", and "former officials" to confirm their ignorance. 

JohnnyYou » 01 Dec 2025, 7:04 am » wrote: ↑

01 Dec 2025, 7:04 am

Are you Somali?  Your thought processes seem sub atomically miniscule.

You can't even see the giant dick in the oval cockpit. If it was up your azz you would smile, fart and say  "Have a Trump Day"

He has already given you the "Facts" with links. What else do you need MoFo?
 

RebelGator » 01 Dec 2025, 8:25 am » wrote: ↑

01 Dec 2025, 8:25 am

Huey » 01 Dec 2025, 8:16 am » wrote: ↑

01 Dec 2025, 8:16 am

Start homicide rates:

The big picture: 13 of the 20 U.S. cities with the highest murder rates were in Republican-run states. Many of those cities were run by Democrats who often are at odds with state officials, an Axios analysis of FBI data finds.

https://www.axios.com/2025/08/15/homici ... red-states

Facts mean nothing to a Democrat, they prefer...."alleged", "unnamed sources", and "former officials" to confirm their ignorance. 

 

Even when those facts come from one of their own sources.