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Huey » 09 Dec 2025, 1:36 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Dec 2025, 1:36 pm

When are you going to tell me what countries flag those terrorists sail under AND post the evidence that Hegseth gave the order for the second strike?  And that the terrorists were not trying to contact a second ship in the area and complete the job?  I give a **** about that **** as much as you gave a **** that Obama was droning terrorist and US Citizens.

Which I supported, by the way.

jerra » wrote:

02 Feb 1970, 11:22 am

Huey » 09 Dec 2025, 1:36 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Dec 2025, 1:36 pm

When are you going to tell me what countries flag those terrorists sail under AND post the evidence that Hegseth gave the order for the second strike?  And that the terrorists were not trying to contact a second ship in the area and complete the job?  I give a **** about that **** as much as you gave a **** that Obama was droning terrorist and US Citizens.

Which I supported, by the way.

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Our report noted that Iran had a duty to assist and aid the American sailors conducting innocent passage, consistent with Article 98 of the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea.Violating the law undermines the United States’s moral legitimacy and carries real strategic costsViolating international law also undermines the moral legitimacy underpinning current and future U.S. military operations. Moral legitimacy is a strategic asset, not a “nice extra.”When the United States abides by the laws of war, it strengthens its ability to shape global expectations, sustain coalitions, and demand humane treatment for its own forces.But if the United States authorizes the killing of defenseless survivors, it sends a clear message to the world: the United States does not take maritime law, fundamental human rights, or the law of armed conflict seriously. Why then should adversaries—or even partners—respect these rules?Forfeiting the moral high ground also makes it harder to maintain cohesion with allies. The U.S. experience with torture after 9/11 offers a stark warning: America’s willingness to violate humanitarian norms still haunts its global reputation and weakens its ability to demand humane treatment for its own servicemembers.Violating the law corrodes internal discipline and harms U.S. servicemembers from withinFor many American servicemembers, the military’s honor code and commitment to the rule of law are central to why they serve. We are supposed to be the “good guys.” Indeed, the U.S. Navy’s core values are honor, courage, and commitment. When the state abandons those values, it can demoralize troops, create long-lasting moral injury, and fuel distrust within the ranks.The continual psychological and institutional damage of post-9/11 abuses is well documented. Illegal orders create moral injury, erode discipline, and breed cynicism. They degrade the professional code, weaken force discipline, and make future misconduct more likely. A military that is asked to carry out illegal or dishonorable actions suffers long after the moment has passed. ===////////------------------------------------

obviously you want american soldiers and americans to be killed.
 
 

 

jerrab » 09 Dec 2025, 1:46 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Dec 2025, 1:46 pm

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your ... ar-crimes/

The memo from the Former JAGs Working Group came after The Washington Post reported Friday that Adm. Frank M. “Mitch” Bradley, who led Joint Special Operations Command at the time, ordered SEAL Team 6 to fire a second strike after the initial strike left two individuals clinging to the wreckage, in compliance with Hegseth’s directive.

=A group of former military lawyers issued a memo Saturday condemning Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth for allegedly ordering a special operations commander and military personnel to kill everybody aboard an alleged drug-carrying vessel on Sept. 2.The memo from the Former JAGs Working Group came after The Washington Post reported Friday

 that Adm. Frank M. “Mitch” Bradley, who led Joint Special Operations Command at the time, ordered SEAL Team 6 to fire a second strike after the initial strike left two individuals clinging to the wreckage, in compliance with Hegseth’s directive

jerrab » 09 Dec 2025, 12:05 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Dec 2025, 12:05 pm

https://www.dw.com/en/gaza-donald-trump ... a-71564349S President Donald Trump's comments on February 4 about Gaza revived an idea previously touted by both him and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner.His latest plan positions Gaza in terms of real estate potential, rather than the humanitarian or political situation for its inhabitants. After claiming that the US would "take over the Gaza Strip" and "own it," Donald Trump said:"We have an opportunity to do something that could be phenomenal. And I don't want to be cute. I don't want to be a wise guy. But the 'Riviera of the Middle East,' this could be something that could be so, this could be so magnificent."It echoes sentiments expressed by Kushner in an interview at Harvard University in February 2024 when he said Gaza's waterfront property could be "very valuable if people would focus on building up livelihoods." He added that from Israel's perspective he would do his best to "move the people out and then clean it up."

Gaza: The Trump family's Middle East business interests

Huey » 09 Dec 2025, 1:36 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Dec 2025, 1:36 pm

When are you going to tell me what countries flag those terrorists sail under AND post the evidence that Hegseth gave the order for the second strike?  And that the terrorists were not trying to contact a second ship in the area and complete the job?  I give a **** about that **** as much as you gave a **** that Obama was droning terrorist and US Citizens.

Which I supported, by the way.

jerrab » 09 Dec 2025, 11:58 am » wrote: ↑

09 Dec 2025, 11:58 am

https://youtu.be/q0xJ1sXq2FE?si=INuPG-LYsBVc2-RV

Huey » 09 Dec 2025, 1:49 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Dec 2025, 1:49 pm

So you have no evidence that Pete ordered the 2nd strike.

*GHETTOBLASTER » 09 Dec 2025, 2:08 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Dec 2025, 2:08 pm

Once again you have proven that Trump NEVER SAID he was going to make the Gaza Strip HIS OWN personal property to develop..... 

jerrab » 09 Dec 2025, 2:10 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Dec 2025, 2:10 pm

where did I say only trump??

jerra » wrote:

02 Feb 1970, 11:22 am

Huey » 09 Dec 2025, 1:49 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Dec 2025, 1:49 pm

So you have no evidence that Pete ordered the 2nd strike.

it was a standing order to kill everyone and bradley said he did under hegseth's order.

 

jerra » wrote:

02 Feb 1970, 11:22 am

Huey » 09 Dec 2025, 1:36 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Dec 2025, 1:36 pm

When are you going to tell me what countries flag those terrorists sail under AND post the evidence that Hegseth gave the order for the second strike?  And that the terrorists were not trying to contact a second ship in the area and complete the job?  I give a **** about that **** as much as you gave a **** that Obama was droning terrorist and US Citizens.

Which I supported, by the way.

what country's flag

 

*GHETTOBLASTER » 09 Dec 2025, 2:06 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Dec 2025, 2:06 pm

Once again you have proven that Trump NEVER SAID he was going to make the Gaza Strip HIS OWN personal property to develop.....

• /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
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• Donald Trump: Proposed the vision of Gaza as a "Riviera" and expressed interest in the U.S. taking over and developing the territory.
• Jared Kushner: Trump's son-in-law and former advisor, who has business interests in the Middle East through his firm Affinity Partners and has previously spoken of Gaza's waterfront potential for real estate development.
• Michael Eisenberg and Liran Tancman: Israeli-American venture capitalist and Israeli tech entrepreneur, respectively, who led the creation of the proposal.
• Dar Global: The international real estate arm of Saudi Arabia's Dar Al Arkan, which is a key partner in several Trump-branded luxury hotel and real estate projects in the Middle East, including in Oman, Dubai, and Jeddah.
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• Rivera Hotels / Partners: The term "Riviera" refers to the concept for the Gaza coastline, not a specific hotel chain named "Rivera Hotels" or specific partners of that name. 

jerrab » 09 Dec 2025, 2:18 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Dec 2025, 2:18 pm

• /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
•  
• Donald Trump: Proposed the vision of Gaza as a "Riviera" and expressed interest in the U.S. taking over and developing the territory.
• Jared Kushner: Trump's son-in-law and former advisor, who has business interests in the Middle East through his firm Affinity Partners and has previously spoken of Gaza's waterfront potential for real estate development.
• Michael Eisenberg and Liran Tancman: Israeli-American venture capitalist and Israeli tech entrepreneur, respectively, who led the creation of the proposal.
• Dar Global: The international real estate arm of Saudi Arabia's Dar Al Arkan, which is a key partner in several Trump-branded luxury hotel and real estate projects in the Middle East, including in Oman, Dubai, and Jeddah.
•  
• Rivera Hotels / Partners: The term "Riviera" refers to the concept for the Gaza coastline, not a specific hotel chain named "Rivera Hotels" or specific partners of that name. 

*GHETTOBLASTER » 09 Dec 2025, 2:19 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Dec 2025, 2:19 pm

Once again you have proven that Trump NEVER SAID he was going to make the Gaza Strip HIS OWN personal property to develop..... 

Huey » 09 Dec 2025, 1:47 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Dec 2025, 1:47 pm

When are you going to tell me what countries flag those terrorists sail under AND post the evidence that Hegseth gave the order for the second strike?  And that the terrorists were not trying to contact a second ship in the area and complete the job?

Huey » 09 Dec 2025, 2:16 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Dec 2025, 2:16 pm

So you still have no evidence that Pete ordered the 2nd strike.

What flag are they flying?  That is very important concerning the terrorists getting droned.

Did you look up that name yet?  That was one of the American your boy Obama droned.  Where you this psycho over that?

*GHETTOBLASTER » 09 Dec 2025, 2:19 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Dec 2025, 2:19 pm

Once again you have proven that Trump NEVER SAID he was going to make the Gaza Strip HIS OWN personal property to develop..... 

jerra » wrote:

02 Feb 1970, 11:22 am

Huey » 09 Dec 2025, 1:36 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Dec 2025, 1:36 pm

When are you going to tell me what countries flag those terrorists sail under AND post the evidence that Hegseth gave the order for the second strike?  And that the terrorists were not trying to contact a second ship in the area and complete the job?  I give a **** about that **** as much as you gave a **** that Obama was droning terrorist and US Citizens.

Which I supported, by the way.

what country's flag

 

• Refuses lawful commands or inspection by authorities.
• Attempts to flee.
• Poses a threat to the enforcing personnel or other vessels.
• Is engaged in illicit activities such as piracy or narcotics trafficking

jerrab » 09 Dec 2025, 2:29 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Dec 2025, 2:29 pm

it was a standing order to kill everyone and bradley said he did under hegseth's order.

jerrab » 08 Dec 2025, 3:17 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2025, 3:17 pm

nbcnews /news/investigations/yemenis-drone-strike-turned-wedding-funeral-n5781

terrorists like the ones that blow up american buildings.

you are so desperate to defend trump you have to go back 20+ years when america was dealing with real terrorists who already bombed NYC

jerrab » 08 Dec 2025, 3:17 pm » wrote: ↑

08 Dec 2025, 3:17 pm

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigat ... eral-n5781

terrorists like the ones that blow up american buildings.

you are so desperate to defend trump you have to go back 20+ years when america was dealing with real terrorists who already bombed NYC