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Zeets2 » 08 Dec 2025, 1:35 pm » wrote: The fact is the drug boat was the target of the strike.  The drug dealers on board were nothing more than collateral damage, yet those are the ones you're SO concerned about!

Where was the "armed conflict" you're so upset about involving the 324 civilians that Obama murdered?  
Apparently, you consider the deaths of a couple of narco-terrorist drug dealers more unjustifiable than 324 innocent civilians, don't you?
How telling!

How come you can't understand why it is that your hypocritical opinions have no validity and expose you as such a partisan imbecile with every post you make?
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terrorists like the ones that blow up american buildings.

you are so desperate to defend trump you have to go back 20+ years when america was dealing with real terrorists who already bombed NYC
 
 
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you don't have to post a "the dickhead's triggered again" pic,,,,

I've got you completely figured out

a dickhead with a personality disorder
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Zeets2 » 08 Dec 2025, 1:07 pm » wrote: Why don't you tell us how it was ANY different when Obama and Biden dropped thousands of bombs that killed thousands and not just a couple of drug dealers in their drug-laden boats?

Did I miss the Congressional vote on when either of those two idiots were responding to a declaration of war?

Guess I also missed where you spoke out against either of those clowns you loved when THEY killed THOUSANDS of innocent people instead of just a few drug dealers?

Do you EVER consider how your selective outrage is so badly misplaced?
such outrage!!!!!!!

where was your outrage when  trump was helping netnayhu bomb gaza?
 
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Huey » 08 Dec 2025, 12:07 pm » wrote: 1. “kill everybody” in of itself is not an illegal order.

2 “kill everybody” does not appear in the articles at each link.

3. Carpet bombing civilians in Germany could be a war crime.

4. Dropping multiple bombs and torpedoes on Japanese ships can be considered a war crim
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The concept of a "second strike" to kill survivors of an initial attack violates U.S. and international military law. The U.S. military's own Law of War Manual explicitly states that orders to fire upon shipwrecked persons are "clearly illegal". 
Legality of Attacking Survivors
Under the Geneva Conventions and established principles of international humanitarian law:
  • Persons who are "hors de combat" (out of combat, incapacitated, or shipwrecked) must be respected and protected in all circumstances.
  • Targeting survivors is strictly prohibited, whether in an officially declared armed conflict or not. If the U.S. is not in an armed conflict, such a killing would be considered murder or an extrajudicial killing under international human rights law.
  • The U.S. military's Law of War Manual (2023) uses attacking shipwrecked enemies as a paradigmatic example of an illegal act. 
1. The boats are stateless.  They are not the flying of a country.  Rules are different.  Treated like they are committing piracy if participating in illegal acts.

2.  As far as one, we are not it a declared war, hence, not war crime.


https://www.un.org/depts/los/convention ... clos_e.pdf

 
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Huey » 08 Dec 2025, 6:18 pm » wrote: 1. The boats are stateless.  They are not the flying of a country.  Rules are different.  Treated like they are committing piracy if participating in illegal acts.

2.  As far as one, we are not it a declared war, hence, not war crime.

https://www.un.org/depts/los/convention ... clos_e.pdf
crime--- pure and simple
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jerra b » 08 Dec 2025, 3:17 pm » wrote: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigat ... eral-n5781

terrorists like the ones that blow up american buildings.

you are so desperate to defend trump you have to go back 20+ years when america was dealing with real terrorists who already bombed NYC

I defend how evolving actually works in plain sight without demanding human rights to pretend living isn't a self evident situation of equally alive as eternally separated with each lifetime having a sole brain and individual heartbeat now since rotation of the planet conceived current population was never duplicated any revolution around the star so far each rotation forward now.

I understand where actual perpetual motion exists in plain sight between shared event horizons adapting in plain sight as personal chromosomes measure how long each ancestor lived between conceived and dead with current population estimated at 8.2 billion alive now.
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jerra » wrote:
Huey » 08 Dec 2025, 6:18 pm » wrote: 1. The boats are stateless.  They are not the flying of a country.  Rules are different.  Treated like they are committing piracy if participating in illegal acts.

2.  As far as one, we are not it a declared war, hence, not war crime.

https://www.un.org/depts/los/convention ... clos_e.pdf
crime--- pure and simple

 

Yup.  ANd internatonal maritime law (rules) is not on the drug runners side.
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jerrab » 08 Dec 2025, 3:26 pm » wrote: such outrage!!!!!!!

where was your outrage when  trump was helping netnayhu bomb gaza?
Why would I be outraged by watching Trump help kill Hamas and Hezbollah terrorists?  
I cheered for him and Bibi to wipe every Hamas terrorist off the face of the map, and will continue to do so!

Are we clear?
 
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jerrab » 08 Dec 2025, 3:17 pm » wrote: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigat ... eral-n5781

terrorists like the ones that blow up american buildings.

you are so desperate to defend trump you have to go back 20+ years when america was dealing with real terrorists who already bombed NYC
Why do I need to go back 20 years to show my support for the killing of terrorists when we have new videos of Trump killing them and destroying their drug boats every week, just as I supported EVERY president who ever lived doing the same?  I also cheered for Trump killing terrorist Soleimani in 2020 as well, did you?
It's called "consistency" and I supported the efforts of both Obama and Biden to do likewise!  The problem was that both of them were incapable of doing the job right and wound up killing far too many innocent civilians due to their incompetence.

You, on the other hand, hate Trump, so you're offended by his actions.  And that equates YOU with loving terrorists and criminals just as most ignorant Democrats do.


 
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jerrab » 08 Dec 2025, 3:17 pm » wrote: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigat ... eral-n5781

terrorists like the ones that blow up american buildings.

you are so desperate to defend trump you have to go back 20+ years when america was dealing with real terrorists who already bombed NYC
Which group has killed the most Americans.....I think the Drug Cartels have by far. 
Tell us about your experiences with heroin and fentanyl.
Were you on either of those drugs when you claimed Trump was going to make the Gaza Strip his own personal property...?     :rofl:  
 
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Zeets2 » 09 Dec 2025, 10:35 am » wrote: Why do I need to go back 20 years to show my support for the killing of terrorists when we have new videos of Trump killing them and destroying their drug boats every week, just as I supported EVERY president who ever lived doing the same?  I also cheered for Trump killing terrorist Soleimani in 2020 as well, did you?
It's called "consistency" and I supported the efforts of both Obama and Biden to do likewise!  The problem was that both of them were incapable of doing the job right and wound up killing far too many innocent civilians due to their incompetence.

You, on the other hand, hate Trump, so you're offended by his actions.  And that equates YOU with loving terrorists and criminals just as most ignorant Democrats do.
not sorry to tell to tell you but you are wrong.

https://www.military.com/feature/2025/1 ... e-tap.html
The administration’s argument hinges on its claim the survivors were trying to recover narcotics and continue the trafficking mission. Legal experts have forcefully challenged that justification.International law scholars have stated that attempting to salvage contraband does not qualify as “direct participation in hostilities” sufficient to override shipwreck protections, particularly where the individuals are unarmed and adrift in open water.U.S. Navy Adm. Frank "Mitch" Bradley, center, commander of the U.S. Special Operations Command, and Gen. Dan Caine, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, right, are escorted to a classified briefing for top congressional lawmakers overseeing national security as they investigate how Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth handled a military strike on a suspected drug smuggling boat and its crew in the Caribbean near Venezuela Sept. 2, at the Capitol in Washington, Thursday, Dec. 4, 2025. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)The law draws a bright line between hostile combat activity and survival or salvage behavior. Once a person is defenseless due to shipwreck, the default legal duty shifts from attack to protection unless there is an imminent armed threat.Here, multiple lawmakers stated that no visible weapons or hostile acts appeared in the footage before the second strike.  
 
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Zeets2 » 09 Dec 2025, 10:35 am » wrote: Why do I need to go back 20 years to show my support for the killing of terrorists when we have new videos of Trump killing them and destroying their drug boats every week, just as I supported EVERY president who ever lived doing the same?  I also cheered for Trump killing terrorist Soleimani in 2020 as well, did you?
It's called "consistency" and I supported the efforts of both Obama and Biden to do likewise!  The problem was that both of them were incapable of doing the job right and wound up killing far too many innocent civilians due to their incompetence.

You, on the other hand, hate Trump, so you're offended by his actions.  And that equates YOU with loving terrorists and criminals just as most ignorant Democrats do.
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The legal problem for the administration begins with the most basic protections in maritime warfare.Article 12 of the Second Geneva Convention requires that wounded, sick and shipwrecked persons “shall be respected and protected in all circumstances.” This protection applies regardless of how the shipwreck occurred and regardless of the individual’s prior conduct. Customary international humanitarian law reinforces this rule. Persons who are hors de combat, including those who are shipwrecked and defenseless, “shall not be made the object of attack" and intentionally targeted.These are not abstract principles; rather, they're binding war crime prohibitions recognized by the United States and incorporated into U.S. naval warfare doctrine.
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Huey » 09 Dec 2025, 8:24 am » wrote: Yup.  ANd internatonal maritime law (rules) is not on the drug runners side.
and not on hegsmith side either

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Penalties for Violating the MDLEADepending on the nature and circumstances of the offenses, controlled substance violations aboard covered vessels can result in severe fines and prison time under the federal sentencing guidelines if you are convicted.
 
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Zeets2 » 09 Dec 2025, 10:35 am » wrote: Why do I need to go back 20 years to show my support for the killing of terrorists when we have new videos of Trump killing them and destroying their drug boats every week, just as I supported EVERY president who ever lived doing the same?  I also cheered for Trump killing terrorist Soleimani in 2020 as well, did you?
It's called "consistency" and I supported the efforts of both Obama and Biden to do likewise!  The problem was that both of them were incapable of doing the job right and wound up killing far too many innocent civilians due to their incompetence.

You, on the other hand, hate Trump, so you're offended by his actions.  And that equates YOU with loving terrorists and criminals just as most ignorant Democrats do.
you have already sold your soul to trump. don't expect to go to heaven. you cheered bombing gaza.
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Zeets2 » 09 Dec 2025, 10:35 am » wrote: Why do I need to go back 20 years to show my support for the killing of terrorists when we have new videos of Trump killing them and destroying their drug boats every week, just as I supported EVERY president who ever lived doing the same?  I also cheered for Trump killing terrorist Soleimani in 2020 as well, did you?
It's called "consistency" and I supported the efforts of both Obama and Biden to do likewise!  The problem was that both of them were incapable of doing the job right and wound up killing far too many innocent civilians due to their incompetence.

You, on the other hand, hate Trump, so you're offended by his actions.  And that equates YOU with loving terrorists and criminals just as most ignorant Democrats do.
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*GHETTOBLASTER » 09 Dec 2025, 11:32 am » wrote: Which group has killed the most Americans.....I think the Drug Cartels have by far. 
Tell us about your experiences with heroin and fentanyl.
Were you on either of those drugs when you claimed Trump was going to make the Gaza Strip his own personal property...?     Image

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*GHETTOBLASTER » 09 Dec 2025, 11:32 am » wrote: Which group has killed the most Americans.....I think the Drug Cartels have by far. 
Tell us about your experiences with heroin and fentanyl.
Were you on either of those drugs when you claimed Trump was going to make the Gaza Strip his own personal property...?     Image

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald ... rcna190785
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*GHETTOBLASTER » 09 Dec 2025, 11:32 am » wrote: Which group has killed the most Americans.....I think the Drug Cartels have by far. 
Tell us about your experiences with heroin and fentanyl.
Were you on either of those drugs when you claimed Trump was going to make the Gaza Strip his own personal property...?     Image
https://www.dw.com/en/gaza-donald-trump ... a-71564349S President Donald Trump's comments on February 4 about Gaza revived an idea previously touted by both him and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner.His latest plan positions Gaza in terms of real estate potential, rather than the humanitarian or political situation for its inhabitants. After claiming that the US would "take over the Gaza Strip" and "own it," Donald Trump said:"We have an opportunity to do something that could be phenomenal. And I don't want to be cute. I don't want to be a wise guy. But the 'Riviera of the Middle East,' this could be something that could be so, this could be so magnificent."It echoes sentiments expressed by Kushner in an interview at Harvard University in February 2024 when he said Gaza's waterfront property could be "very valuable if people would focus on building up livelihoods." He added that from Israel's perspective he would do his best to "move the people out and then clean it up."Image

Gaza: The Trump family's Middle East business interests
 
 
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jerrab » 09 Dec 2025, 11:47 am » wrote: and not on hegsmith side either

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https://www.thefederalcriminalattorneys ... cement-act

Penalties for Violating the MDLEADepending on the nature and circumstances of the offenses, controlled substance violations aboard covered vessels can result in severe fines and prison time under the federal sentencing guidelines if you are convicted.

They are not flying the flag of ANY nation.  You better check the link I gave you.
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jerrab » 09 Dec 2025, 11:51 am » wrote: you have already sold your soul to trump. don't expect to go to heaven. you cheered bombing gaza.
Damn right I cheer for the bombing of Gaza, but you're a fool to think that requires selling my soul to anyone! 
Guess you've sold YOUR soul to the devil for supporting the Hamas terrorists who tortured, burned alive infants, and beheaded and murdered 1200 innocent civilian Jews on Oct. 7th. 
I cheer for the killing of terrorists wherever they're found.  
Haven't I made that clear enough for you to understand?

You, on the other hand, cheer for the terrorists who live to murder Jews, because you're an avowed Jew-hater.
And someone who hates Jews, hates Trump, and hates Netanyahu for defending his country has no business or validity to quote the Bible.
See the difference between a Trump lover and a Jew hater?:

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