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Vegas » 05 Jan 2026, 3:01 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jan 2026, 3:01 pm

I did many times. I just don't see it. I saw a white tangible object just before the flash explosion. But that could easily be a missile as it could a plane.

I bet you could see a Jew in Row 14, Window Seat, if you tried.

Huey » 05 Jan 2026, 3:05 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jan 2026, 3:05 pm

https://www.popularmechanics.com/milita ... ash-myths/

I have also read all of the views that are attempting to debunk the missile theory. I just read this one now ^^^. It's no different than the usual storyline. It's probably unproductive to use the inconsistencies of the physical evidence. Usually that just leads to a back-forth narrative on both sides. Which ultimately arrives at a dead end. What I like to focus on are the pilots. Many pilots were, and still are, still puzzled how amateurs, with the little flying hours that these pilots had, could do the maneuvering of a Boeing plane the way they supposedly did. Not just the hit, but the overall path getting there and the sharp turns. Experienced pilots said that would be highly difficult even for the most seasoned pilots. That is what makes me doubt about what were told. 

RebelGator » 05 Jan 2026, 3:37 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jan 2026, 3:37 pm

I bet you could see a Jew in Row 14, Window Seat, if you tried.

the beard?
the hat?
the nose ?
 
 

*GHETTOBLASTER » 05 Jan 2026, 2:35 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jan 2026, 2:35 pm

The [[[JWO]]] created the Hippy Dope Cult, Wiggers and Women's Lib as a way to effeminize the Baby Boomer Generation.

This made us  more willing to accept the Illegal Alien Invasion as a good thing, more soft on crime, more willing to make silly excuses for the failures and harmful effects of ****** [White Guilt], more willing to put ****** and women into positions of power and more willing to surrender our right to bear arms.

If you think this is all just a wild conspiracy theory.....THEN TELL US WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CREATION AND PROMOTION OF THESE SOCIETY DEBASING SOCIAL TRENDS

Don't try to tell us that they "just happened"..either.

Your D E S P E R A T I O N is showing!!

What's next from you?? Rebuilding the ovens and gas chambers??

Beekeeper » 05 Jan 2026, 4:53 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jan 2026, 4:53 pm

Your D E S P E R A T I O N is showing!!

What's next from you?? Rebuilding the ovens and gas chambers??

Benjamin Freedman's knowledge about this matter totally dwarfs yours.
He actually lived through it and was privy to the HOWS and the WHYS connected to [[[JWO AGENDA]]] 
Let's face it....all you've got are your hurt  feelings.
 

*GHETTOBLASTER » 05 Jan 2026, 6:10 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jan 2026, 6:10 pm

Benjamin Freedman's knowledge about this matter totally dwarfs yours.
He actually lived through it and was privy to the HOWS and the WHYS connected to [[[JWO AGENDA]]] 
Let's face it....all you've got are your hurt  feelings.

Ewwwww. Such an OUTSTANDING source of hate!

Benjamin Harrison[1] Freedman (October 4, 1890 – May 1984)[2] was an American businessman, Holocaust denier, and vocal anti-Zionist.
 

Beekeeper » 05 Jan 2026, 6:24 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jan 2026, 6:24 pm

Ewwwww. Such an OUTSTANDING source of hate!

Benjamin Harrison[1] Freedman (October 4, 1890 – May 1984)[2] was an American businessman, Holocaust denier, and vocal anti-Zionist.

This is all you've ever got...^^^^^^^^^  

Benjamin H Freedman’s speech in 1961 at the Willard Hotel in Washington, D.C.

..........here in the United States, the Zionists and their co religionists have complete control of our government.

For many reasons too many and too complex to go into here, at this time, I'll be glad to answer questions, however, to support that statement -- the Zionists and their co-religionists rule this United States as though they were the absolute monarchs of this country.

Now, you say, 'well, that's a very broad statement to make', but let me show what happened while you were -- I don't want to wear that out --- let me show what happened while WE were all asleep. I'm including myself with you.

We were all asleep.

What happened?

World War I broke out in the summer of 1914. Nineteen-hundred and fourteen was the year in which World War One broke out. There are few people here my age who remember that. Now that war was waged on one side by Great Britain, France, and Russia; and on the other side by Germany, Austria Hungary, and Turkey. What happened? Within two years Germany had won that war: not alone won it nominally, but won it actually. The German submarines, which were a surprise to the world, had swept all the convoys from the Atlantic Ocean, and Great Britain stood there without ammunition for her soldiers, stood there with one week's food supply facing her -- and after that, starvation. At that time, the French army had mutinied. They lost 600,000 of the flower of French youth in the defense of Verdun on the Somme. The Russian army was defecting. They were picking up their toys and going home, they didn't want to play war anymore, they didn't like the Czar. And the Italian army had collapsed.

 not a shot had been fired on the German soil. Not an enemy soldier had crossed the border into Germany. And yet, here was Germany offering England peace terms. They offered England a negotiated peace on what the lawyers call a status quo ante basis. That means: “Let's call the war off, and let everything be as it was before the war started.” Well, England, in the summer of 1916 was considering that.
Seriously! They had no choice. It was either accepting this negotiated peace that Germany was magnanimously offering them, or going on with the war and being totally defeated. While that was going on, the Zionists in Germany, who represented the Zionists from Eastern Europe, went to the British War Cabinet and -- I am going to be brief because this is a long story, but I have all the documents to prove any statement that I make if anyone here is curious, or doesn't believe what I'm saying is at all possible -- the Zionists in London went to the British war cabinet and they said: “Look here. You can yet win this war. You don't have to give up. You don't have to accept the negotiated peace offered to you now by Germany. You can win this war if the United States will come in as your ally.” The United States was not in the war at that time. We were fresh; we were young; we were rich; we were powerful. They [Zionists] told England: “We will guarantee to bring the United States into the war as your ally, to fight with you on your side, if you will promise us Palestine after you win the war.” In other words, they made this deal: “We will get the United States into this war as your ally. The price you must pay us is Palestine after you have won the war and defeated Germany, Austria Hungary, and Turkey.”   [continued]

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Benjamin Harrison[1] Freedman (October 4, 1890 – May 1984)[2] was an American businessman, Holocaust denier, and vocal anti-Zionist

What happened?
Within two years Germany had won that war: not alone won it nominally, but won it actually. The
German submarines, which were a surprise to the world, had swept all the convoys from the Atlantic
Ocean, and Great Britain stood there without ammunition for her soldiers, stood there with one week's
food supply facing her -- and after that, starvation.
At that time, the French army had mutinied. They lost 600,000 of the flower of French youth in the
defense of Verdun on the Somme. The Russian army was defecting. They were picking up their toys
and going home, they didn't want to play war anymore, they didn't like the Czar. And the Italian army
had collapsed.
Now Germany -- not a shot had been fired on the German soil. Not an enemy soldier had crossed the
border into Germany. And yet, here was Germany offering England peace terms. They offered
England a negotiated peace on what the lawyers call a status quo ante basis. That means: “Let's call
the war off, and let everything be as it was before the war started.”
Well, England, in the summer of 1916 was considering that. Seriously! They had no choice. It was
either accepting this negotiated peace that Germany was magnanimously offering them, or going on
with the war and being totally defeated.....[continued]

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While that was going on, the Zionists in Germany, who represented the Zionists from Eastern Europe,
went to the British War Cabinet and -- I am going to be brief because this is a long story, but I have all
the documents to prove any statement that I make if anyone here is curious, or doesn't believe what
I'm saying is at all possible -- the Zionists in London went to the British war cabinet and they said:
“Look here. You can yet win this war. You don't have to give up. You don't have to accept the
negotiated peace offered to you now by Germany. You can win this war if the United States will come
in as your ally.”
The United States was not in the war at that time. We were fresh; we were young; we were rich; we
were powerful. They [Zionists] told England: “We will guarantee to bring the United States into the
war as your ally, to fight with you on your side, if you will promise us Palestine after you win the
war.”
In other words, they made this deal: “We will get the United States into this war as your ally. The
price you must pay us is Palestine after you have won the war and defeated Germany, Austria
Hungary, and Turkey.”
Now England had as much right to promise Palestine to anybody, as the United States would have to
promise Japan to Ireland for any reason whatsoever. It's absolutely absurd that Great Britain -- that
never had any connection or any interest or any right in what is known as Palestine -- should offer it as
coin of the realm to pay the Zionists for bringing the United States into the war. [continued]

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However, they made that promise, in October of 1916. October, nineteen hundred and sixteen. And
shortly after that -- I don't know how many here remember it -- the United States, which was almost
totally pro-German -- totally pro-German -- because the newspapers here were controlled by Jews, the
bankers were Jews, all the media of mass communications in this country were controlled by Jews, and
they were pro-German because their people, in the majority of cases came from Germany, and they
wanted to see Germany lick the Czar.
The Jews didn't like the Czar, and they didn't want Russia to win this war. So the German bankers --
the German-Jews -- Kuhn Loeb and the other big banking firms in the United States refused to finance
France or England to the extent of one dollar. They stood aside and they said: “As long as France and
England are tied up with Russia, not one cent!” But they poured money into Germany, they fought
with Germany against Russia, trying to lick the Czarist regime.
Now those same Jews, when they saw the possibility of getting Palestine, they went to England and
they made this deal.

At that time, everything changed, like the traffic light that changes from red to
green.
Where the newspapers had been all pro-German, where they'd been telling the people of the
difficulties that Germany was having fighting Great Britain commercially and in other respects, all of a
sudden the Germans were no good.
They were villains.
They were Huns.
They were shooting Red
Cross nurses.
They were cutting off babies' hands.
And they were no good.
Well, shortly after that, Mr. Wilson declared war on Germany. [continued]

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The Zionists in London sent these cables to the United States, to Justice Brandeis: “Go to work on
President Wilson. We're getting from England what we want. Now you go to work, and you go to
work on President Wilson and get the United States into the war." And that did happen. That's how the
United States got into the war. We had no more interest in it; we had no more right to be in it than we
have to be on the moon tonight instead of in this room.
Now the war -- World War One -- in which the United States participated had absolutely no reason to
be our war. We went in there -- we were railroaded into it -- if I can be vulgar, we were suckered into -- that war merely so that the Zionists of the world could obtain Palestine. Now, that is something that
the people in the United States have never been told. They never knew why we went into World War
One. Now, what happened?
After we got into the war, the Zionists went to Great Britain and they said: “Well, we performed our
part of the agreement. Let's have something in writing that shows that you are going to keep your
bargain and give us Palestine after you win the war.” Because they didn't know whether the war
would last another year or another ten years. So they started to work out a receipt. The receipt took
the form of a letter, and it was worded in very cryptic language so that the world at large wouldn't
know what it was all about. And that was called the Balfour Declaration. [continued]

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The Balfour Declaration was merely Great Britain's promise to pay the Zionists what they had agreed
upon as a consideration for getting the United States into the war. So this great Balfour Declaration,
that you hear so much about, is just as phony as a three dollar bill. And I don't think I could make it
more emphatic than that.
Now, that is where all the trouble started. The United States went in the war. The United States
crushed Germany. We went in there, and it's history. You know what happened. Now, when the war
was ended, and the Germans went to Paris, to the Paris Peace Conference in 1919, there were 117 Jews
there, as a delegation representing the Jews, headed by Bernard Baruch. I was there: I ought to know.
Now what happened?
The Jews at that peace conference, when they were cutting up Germany and parceling out Europe to all
these nations that claimed a right to a certain part of European territory, the Jews said, “How about
Palestine for us?” And they produced, for the first time to the knowledge of the Germans, this Balfour
Declaration. So the Germans, for the first time realized, “Oh, that was the game! That's why the
United States came into the war.” And the Germans for the first time realized that they were defeated,
they suffered this terrific reparation that was slapped onto them, because the Zionists wanted Palestine
and they were determined to get it at any cost. [continued]

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Now, that brings us to another very interesting point. When the Germans realized this, they naturally
resented it. Up to that time, the Jews had never been better off in any country in the world than they
had been in Germany.
You had Mr. Rathenau there, who was maybe 100 times as important in industry and finance as is
Bernard Baruch in this country. You had Mr. Balin, who owned the two big steamship lines, the

North German Lloyd's and the Hamburg-American Lines. You had Mr. Bleichroder, who was the
banker for the Hohenzollern family. You had the Warburgs in Hamburg, who were the big merchant
bankers -- the biggest in the world. The Jews were doing very well in Germany. No question about
that. Now, the Germans felt: “Well, that was quite a sellout.”
It was a sellout that I can best compare -- suppose the United States was at war today with the Soviet
Union. And we were winning. And we told the Soviet Union: “Well, let's quit. We offer you peace
terms. Let's forget the whole thing.” And all of a sudden Red China came into the war as an ally of the
Soviet Union. And throwing them into the war brought about our defeat. A crushing defeat, with
reparations the likes of which man's imagination cannot encompass.
Imagine, then, after that defeat, if we found out that it was the Chinese in this country, our Chinese
citizens, who all the time we thought they were loyal citizens working with us, were selling us out to
the Soviet Union and that it was through them that Red China was brought into the war against us.
How would we feel, in the United States against Chinese? I don't think that one of them would dare
show his face on any street. There wouldn't be lampposts enough, convenient, to take care of them.
Imagine how we would feel.
Well, that's how the Germans felt towards these Jews. "We've been so nice to them"; and from 1905
on, when the first Communist revolution in Russia failed, and the Jews had to scramble out of Russia,
they all went to Germany. And Germany gave them refuge. And they were treated very nicely. And
here they sold Germany down the river for no reason at all other than they wanted Palestine as a so
called “Jewish commonwealth.”
Now, Nahum Sokolow -- all the great leaders, the big names that you read about in connection with
Zionism today -- they, in 1919, 1920, '21, '22, and '23, they wrote in all their papers -- and the press
was filled with their statements -- that "the feeling against the Jews in Germany is due to the fact that
they realized that this great defeat was brought about by our intercession and bringing the United
States into the war against them."
The Jews themselves admitted that. It wasn't that the Germans in 1919 discovered that a glass of
Jewish blood tasted better than Coca-Cola or Muenschner Beer. There was no religious feeling. There
was no sentiment against those people merely on account of their religious belief. It was all political.
It was economic. It was anything but religious. [continued]

Nobody cared in Germany whether a Jew went home and pulled down the shades and said “Shema'
Yisrael” or “Our Father.” No one cared in Germany any more than they do in the United States. Now
this feeling that developed later in Germany was due to one thing: that the Germans held the Jews
responsible for their crushing defeat, for no reason at all, because World War One was started against
Germany for no reason for which they [Germans] were responsible. They were guilty of nothing. Only
of being successful. They built up a big navy. They built up world trade.
You must remember, Germany, at the time of Napoleon, at the time of the French Revolution, what
was the German Reich consisted of 300 -- three hundred! -- small city-states, principalities, dukedoms,
and so forth. Three hundred little separate political entities. And between that time, between the period
of . . . between Napoleon and Bismarck, they were consolidated into one state. And within 50 years
after that time they became one of the world's great powers. Their navy was rivalling Great Britain's,
they were doing business all over the world, they could undersell anybody and make better products.
And what happened? What happened as a result of that? [continued]
 

There was a conspiracy between England, France, and Russia that: "We must slap down Germany",
because there isn't one historian in the world that can find a valid reason why those three countries
decided to wipe Germany off the map politically. Now, what happened after that?
When Germany realized that the Jews were responsible for her defeat, they naturally resented it. But
not a hair on the head of any Jew was harmed. Not a single hair. Professor Tansill, of Georgetown
University, who had access to all the secret papers of the State Department, wrote in his book, and
quoted from a State Department document written by Hugo Schoenfelt, a Jew who Cordell Hull sent to
Europe in 1933 to investigate the so-called camps of political prisoners. And he wrote back that he
found them in very fine condition.
They were in excellent shape; everybody treated well. And they were filled with Communists. Well, a
lot of them were Jews, because the Jews happened to be maybe 98 per cent of the Communists in
Europe at that time. And there were some priests there, and ministers, and labor leaders, Masons, and
others who had international affiliations. [continued]

Now, the Jews sort of tried to keep the lid on this fact. They didn't want the world to really understand
that they had sold out Germany, and that the Germans resented that.
So they did take appropriate action against them [against the Jews]. They . . . shall I say, discriminated
against them wherever they could? They shunned them. The same as we would the Chinese, or the
******, or the Catholics, or anyone in this country who had sold us out to an enemy and brought
about our defeat.
Now, after a while, the Jews of the world didn't know what to do, so they called a meeting in
Amsterdam. Jews from every country in the world attended in July 1933. And they said to Germany:
“You fire Hitler! And you put every Jew back into his former position, whether he was a Communist,
no matter what he was. You can't treat us that way! And we, the Jews of the world, are calling upon
you, and serving this ultimatum upon you.” Well, the Germans told them. . . you can imagine. So
what did they [the Jews] do?
They broke up, and Samuel Untermyer, if the name means anything to people here. . . (You want to
ask a question? --- Uh, there were no Communists in Germany at that time. They were called 'Social
Democrats.)
Well, I don't want to go by what they were called. We're now using English words, and what they
were called in Germany is not very material. . . but they were Communists, because in 1917, the
Communists took over Germany for a few days. Rosa Luxembourg and Karl Liebknecht, and a group
of Jews in Germany took over the government for three days. In fact, when the Kaiser ended the war,
he fled to Holland because he thought the Communists were going to take over Germany as they did
Russia, and that he was going to meet the same fate that the Czar did in Russia. So he left and went to
Holland for safety and for security.
Now, at that time, when the Communist threat in Germany was quashed, it was quiet, the Jews were
working, still trying to get back into their former -- their status -- and the Germans fought them in
every way they could, without hurting a hair on anyone's head. The same as one group, the
Prohibitionists, fought the people who were interested in liquor, and they didn't fight one another with
pistols, they did it every way they could. [continued]

Well, that's the way they were fighting the Jews in Germany. And, at that time, mind you, there were
80 to 90 million Germans and there were only 460,000 Jews . . . less than one half of one percent of
Germany were Jews. And yet, they controlled all of the press, they controlled most of the economy,
because they had come in and with cheap money -- you know the way the Mark was devalued -- they
bought up practically everything.
Well, in 1933 when Germany refused to surrender, mind you, to the World Conference of Jews in
Amsterdam, they broke up and Mr. Untermeyer came back to the United States -- who was the head of
the American delegation and the president of the whole conference -- and he went from the steamer to
ABC and made a radio broadcast throughout the United States in which he said:
"The Jews of the world now declare a Holy War against Germany. We are now engaged in a sacred
conflict against the Germans. And we are going to starve them into surrender. We are going to use a
world-wide boycott against them, that will destroy them because they are dependent upon their export
business."
And it is a fact that two thirds of Germany's food supply had to be imported, and it could only be
imported with the proceeds of what they exported. Their labor. So if Germany could not export, two
thirds of Germany's population would have to starve. There just was not enough food for more than
one third of the population.[continued]

Now in this declaration, which I have here, it was printed on page -- a whole page -- in the New York
Times on August 7, 1933, Mr. Samuel Untermyer boldly stated that: “this economic boycott is our
means of self-defense. President Roosevelt has advocated its use in the NRA" . [National Recovery
Administration] -- which some of you may remember, where everybody was to be boycotted unless
they followed the rules laid down by the New Deal, which of course was declared unconstitutional by
the Supreme Court at that time.
Nevertheless, the Jews of the world declared a boycott against Germany, and it was so effective that
you couldn't find one thing in any store anywhere in the world with the words "made in Germany" on
it.
In fact, an executive of the Woolworth Company told me that they had to dump millions of dollars
worth of crockery and dishes into the river; that their stores were boycotted. If anyone came in and
found a dish marked "made in Germany," they were picketed with signs: "Hitler", "murderer", and so
forth, and like -- something like these sit-ins that are taking place in the South.
R. H. Macy, which is controlled by a family called Strauss who also happen to be Jews. . . a woman
found stockings there which came from Chemnitz, marked "made in Germany". Well, they were
cotton stockings. They may have been there 20 years, because since I've been observing women's legs
in the last twenty years, I haven't seen a pair with cotton stockings on them. So Macy! I saw Macy
boycotted, with hundreds of people walking around with signs saying "MURDERS" and
"HITLERITES", and so forth.
Now up to that time, not one hair on the head of any Jew had been hurt in Germany. There was no
suffering, there was no starvation, there was no murder, there was nothing. [continued]

Now, that . . . naturally, the Germans said, "Why, who are these people to declare a boycott against us
and throw all our people out of work, and our industries come to a standstill? Who are they to do that
to us?" They naturally resented it. Certainly they painted swastikas on stores owned by Jews.
Why should a German go in and give their money to a storekeeper who was part of a boycott who was
going to starve Germany into surrender into the Jews of the world, who were going to dictate who their
premier or chancellor was to be? Well, it was ridiculous.
That continued for some time, and it wasn't until 1938, when a young Jew from Poland walked into the
German embassy in Paris and shot one of the officials [a German official] that the Germans really
started to get rough with the Jews in Germany. And you found them then breaking windows and
having street fights and so forth.
Now, for anyone to say that -- I don't like to use the word 'anti-Semitism' because it's meaningless, but
it means something to you still, so I'll have to use it -- the only reason that there was any feeling in
Germany against Jews was that they were responsible: number one, for World War One; number two,
for this world-wide boycott, and number three -- did I say for World War One, they were responsible?
For the boycott -- and also for World War II, because after this thing got out of hand, it was absolutely
necessary for the Jews and Germany to lock horns in a war to see which one was going to survive. [continued]

In the meanwhile, I had lived in Germany, and I knew that the Germans had decided [that] Europe is
going to be Christian or Communist: there is no in between. It's going to be Christian or it's going to be
Communist. And the Germans decided: "We're going to keep it Christian if possible". And they
started to re-arm.
And there intention was -- by that time the United States had recognized the Soviet Union, which they
did in November, 1933 -- the Soviet Union was becoming very powerful, and Germany realized:
"Well, our turn is going to come soon, unless we are strong." The same as we in this country are
saying today, "Our turn is going to come soon, unless we are strong."
And our government is spending 83 or 84 billion dollars of your money for defense, they say. Defense
against whom? Defense against 40,000 little Jews in Moscow that took over Russia, and then, in their
devious ways, took over control of many other governments of the world.
Now, for this country to now be on the verge of a Third World War, from which we cannot emerge a
victor, is something that staggers my imagination. I know that nuclear bombs are measured in terms of
megatons. A megaton is a term used to describe one million tons of TNT. One million tons of TNT is
a megaton. Now, our nuclear bombs have a capacity of 10 megatons, or 10 million tons of TNT. That
was when they were first developed five or six years ago. Now, the nuclear bombs that are being
developed have a capacity of 200 megatons, and God knows how many megatons the nuclear bombs
of the Soviet Union have. [continued]