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Schumer 2020:

The president brags about his Venezuela policy? Give us a break. He hasn’t brought an end to the Maduro regime," Schumer continued. "The Maduro regime is more powerful today and more entrenched today than it was when the president began his anti-Maduro. Same thing with North Korea, same thing with China, same thing with Russia. Same thing with Syria."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/schume ... ss-war.ampSen. Dick Durbin

• THEN: “The people of Venezuela deserve better than this. We can’t allow this President’s short attention span to stop us from delivering on our promise to help the Venezuelan people rebuild their country… Though President Trump may seem ready to throw in the towel, I stand committed to aiding the people of Venezuela.” (6/20/19)
• NOW: “I disagree with President Trump’s use of U.S. military forces without Congressional approval & worry deeply about this Admin’s follow through on foreign policy interventions.” (1/3/26)

 Sen. Chris Van Hollen

• THEN: “[T]he United States is now going to use its levers and influence to push for a negotiation to have a transition to the truly elected leader… Obviously, we know Maduro and his cronies do not want to go quietly into the night, but the United States needs to work with its partners and allies in the region to ratchet up the pressure…” (8/2/24)
• NOW: “It is an illegal act of war to replace Maduro.”

 Sen. Chris Murphy

• THEN: “If Trump cared about consistency, he would make the realist case for intervention in Venezuela (getting rid of Maduro is good for the United States) rather than trying to pretend his Administration all of the sudden cares about toppling anti-democratic regimes.” (1/23/19)
• NOW: “The invasion of Venezuela has nothing to do with American security. Venezuela is not a security threat to the U.S.” (1/4/26)

 Sen. Tim Kaine

• THEN: “This is a deeply concerning development for Venezuelans and for the entire region, since instability abroad impacts us here at home, too.” (9/2/24)
• NOW: “President Trump’s unauthorized military attack on Venezuela to arrest Maduro… is a sickening return to a day when the United States asserted the right to dominate the internal political affairs of all nations in the Western Hemisphere.” (1/3/26)

more:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/202 ... mp-did-it/

 
 

No one disagrees Maduro is a mess.

But creating a bigger one in the process of cleaning it up is stupid.

2 Billion Dollars of Military Deployments for a three hour Gilligan's Island Romperoom show.
Why do you ignore costs of conflict? Do you get Ammo Stamps?

Beyond that, this is UnPresidented into an unknown territory.
 

Wonder why the Left is so hyper focused on a Cartel Drug Lord who was the Dictator of a failed state?

The actual Venezuelans from there are very happy about it and think Trump's great for freeing their country

like everything else they have to sell stupid the everyone which doesn't work at this point

Here we go!


Remember Iraqnam?

It wasn't idiots like the OP enabling an idiot...it was Hillary.


when Venezuela goes sideways, it will be "Biduhn!"

These people are so **** g'ddammned stupid 

Blackvegetable » 05 Jan 2026, 6:57 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jan 2026, 6:57 pm

Here we go!

Remember Iraqnam?

It wasn't idiots like the OP enabling an idiot...it was Hillary.

when Venezuela goes sideways, it will be "Biduhn!"

These people are so **** g'ddammned stupid

Has anyone ever told you that you have a lot in common with Little Dick Durbin?

RebelGator » 05 Jan 2026, 7:37 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jan 2026, 7:37 pm

Has anyone ever told you that you have a lot in common with Little Dick Durbin?

No...

Were you in the movie "Deliverance"?
 

Huey » 05 Jan 2026, 6:38 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jan 2026, 6:38 pm

Schumer 2020:

The president brags about his Venezuela policy? Give us a break. He hasn’t brought an end to the Maduro regime," Schumer continued. "The Maduro regime is more powerful today and more entrenched today than it was when the president began his anti-Maduro. Same thing with North Korea, same thing with China, same thing with Russia. Same thing with Syria."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/schume ... ss-war.ampSen. Dick Durbin

• THEN: “The people of Venezuela deserve better than this. We can’t allow this President’s short attention span to stop us from delivering on our promise to help the Venezuelan people rebuild their country… Though President Trump may seem ready to throw in the towel, I stand committed to aiding the people of Venezuela.” (6/20/19)
• NOW: “I disagree with President Trump’s use of U.S. military forces without Congressional approval & worry deeply about this Admin’s follow through on foreign policy interventions.” (1/3/26)

 Sen. Chris Van Hollen

• THEN: “[T]he United States is now going to use its levers and influence to push for a negotiation to have a transition to the truly elected leader… Obviously, we know Maduro and his cronies do not want to go quietly into the night, but the United States needs to work with its partners and allies in the region to ratchet up the pressure…” (8/2/24)
• NOW: “It is an illegal act of war to replace Maduro.”

 Sen. Chris Murphy

• THEN: “If Trump cared about consistency, he would make the realist case for intervention in Venezuela (getting rid of Maduro is good for the United States) rather than trying to pretend his Administration all of the sudden cares about toppling anti-democratic regimes.” (1/23/19)
• NOW: “The invasion of Venezuela has nothing to do with American security. Venezuela is not a security threat to the U.S.” (1/4/26)

 Sen. Tim Kaine

• THEN: “This is a deeply concerning development for Venezuelans and for the entire region, since instability abroad impacts us here at home, too.” (9/2/24)
• NOW: “President Trump’s unauthorized military attack on Venezuela to arrest Maduro… is a sickening return to a day when the United States asserted the right to dominate the internal political affairs of all nations in the Western Hemisphere.” (1/3/26)

more:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/202 ... mp-did-it/

 
 

 

Colour me surprised...  

Blackvegetable » 05 Jan 2026, 7:41 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jan 2026, 7:41 pm

No...

Were you in the movie "Deliverance"?

did your parents have any children that lived?
 

JohnnyYou » 05 Jan 2026, 6:41 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jan 2026, 6:41 pm

No one disagrees Maduro is a mess.

But creating a bigger one in the process of cleaning it up is stupid.

2 Billion Dollars of Military Deployments for a three hour Gilligan's Island Romperoom show.
Why do you ignore costs of conflict? Do you get Ammo Stamps?

Beyond that, this is UnPresidented into an unknown territory.

I'd trade degenerates like yourself for the average Venezuelan all-day-long. You white liberals are the scourge of the world. 

SouthernFried » 06 Jan 2026, 2:38 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jan 2026, 2:38 am

I'd trade degenerates like yourself for the average Venezuelan all-day-long. You white liberals are the scourge of the world.

Listen to yourself Mr America First.. Now your hanging with Tren De Arugula.

Blackvegetable » 05 Jan 2026, 6:57 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jan 2026, 6:57 pm

Here we go!

Remember Iraqnam?

It wasn't idiots like the OP enabling an idiot...it was Hillary.

when Venezuela goes sideways, it will be "Biduhn!"

These people are so **** g'ddammned stupid

As far as Iraq and Saddam, and the context of the thread despite your, I do remember what democrats said starting in the 90s under Clinton.  

If you wish to discuss it go start a thread.

 

Blackvegetable » 05 Jan 2026, 7:41 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jan 2026, 7:41 pm

No...

Were you in the movie "Deliverance"?

Were you the lead in Brokeback Mountain?

Huey » 06 Jan 2026, 6:03 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jan 2026, 6:03 am

As far as Iraq and Saddam, and the context of the thread despite your, I do remember what democrats said starting in the 90s under Clinton.  

If you wish to discuss it go start a thread.

Of course..

You remember the narrative, but not the details.

You remember "Abby Road", but forget Scrub put them there and Grafty negotiated with the Taliban to leave the mess to Biden.

Now you are doing the same for Grafty and Venezuela, because that is what Toadies do.

If you wish to discuss it go start a thread.

No, Controlly.....unlike your thread derailment efforts, this is directly related to your Toady Threads.


You are too **** stupid for nuance.

SouthernFried » 06 Jan 2026, 6:14 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jan 2026, 6:14 am

Were you the lead in Brokeback Mountain?

I was the mountain.


**** idiot.
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZHUQIEWvnk

Blackvegetable » 06 Jan 2026, 7:32 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jan 2026, 7:32 am

Of course..

You remember the narrative, but not the details.

You remember "Abby Road", but forget Scrub put them there and Grafty negotiated with the Taliban to leave the mess to Biden.

Now you are doing the same for Grafty and Venezuela, because that is what Toadies do.

No, Controlly.....unlike your thread derailment efforts, this is directly related to your Toady Threads.

You are too **** stupid for nuance.

Start a thread.  

Blackvegetable » 06 Jan 2026, 7:33 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jan 2026, 7:33 am

I was the mountain.

**** idiot.

Closer to a pile of ****.

Huey » 06 Jan 2026, 7:46 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jan 2026, 7:46 am

Start a thread.

Run, Toady.




 

Blackvegetable » 06 Jan 2026, 7:53 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jan 2026, 7:53 am

Huey » 06 Jan 2026, 7:46 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jan 2026, 7:46 am

Start a thread.

Run, Toady.




 

 

My stance is the dems were for regime change and Maduro's arrest before they were against it.  Yours?

Huey » 06 Jan 2026, 8:01 am » wrote: ↑

06 Jan 2026, 8:01 am

My stance is the dems were for regime change and Maduro's arrest before they were against it.  Yours?

I just made that PERFECTLY clear, brick.