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Skans » Today, 8:14 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 8:14 am

Well, I agree with much of what you said here Vegas.  You and I differ on the 2nd solution you propose.  I'm going to explain why I do not like (and no conservative should like) your second proposed solution.

• The concept is that everyone pays into a fund while they are working and are entitled to payments out of the fund once retired.
• Regardless of how successful someone has become, they did in fact work and paid into the fund.  Trust fund babies who do not work will not get social security because they never earn "wages".
• All people who work and contribute to a fund should be treated exactly the same way.  Drawing artificial lines as to who can and cannot receive social security, even though everyone contributed is what Democrats do.  It is not based on "fairness" but based on who an elite group of people decide should and should not receive retirement funds, even though they contributed.
• By doing this, you open the door to Democrats later saying that more blacks should get social security, using "Millionaire" retirement funds; Democrats could decide to pay reparations to blacks using "millionaire" retirement funds; Democrats could choose to fund "special" programs using funds contributed by people with "white privilege".  You do not want to open Pandora's ****** on this!
• I don't care if a Trillionaire pulls his retirement from Social Security, as long as its based upon what he contributed. That keeps things honest. 

Yes, and morality says you are correct. Regretfully, morality and sustaining money do not always match. A depleted fund is a depleted fund. Regardless of what morality says. That means that people who did indeed pay into will not get their money either. This shouldn't be different than how we view welfare in the states. We all pay into that, but not everybody gets a return on it. Only those who qualify.