30 Jun 2022 3:27 pm
FOS » 30 Jun 2022, 3:11 pm » wrote: ↑ well what really inspired the split was simply the election of lincoln, of course.
and he was clearly a president for the north that most people in the south hated.
but it became very clear that simply because the north had a much bigger population, the south was never going to be able to elect their own president..
that is objectively exactly what inspired secession in the first place.
no, people were not crying out 'we want slaves!' nor 'we want states rights!'. they were just saying '**** lincon!, **** the yankees!'.
so ok slavery and states rights were both tangentially related to the war...but unless you say that the war was caused by the election of lincoln you are kinda ****.
then the southern states were forced to sign, under durress, the 14th ammendment. Nobody wanted to, it was simply the terms of capitulation.
so yeah, i would argue that the civil war was when the mask completely slipped off and the federal gvt showed its willingness to simply openly oppress any 'states rights' that bothered the federal government.
I think the civil war had more to do with slavery than you do. But I agree that the states were brutally subjugated
and some don't understand why Lee Harvey yelled "sic sempe= tyranis!" As he pulled the trigger