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Zeets2
18 Jul 2022 1:55 pm
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Xavier_Onassis » 18 Jul 2022, 8:35 am » wrote: ↑ This is NOT about Socialism, it is about logic.

If you are FINANCIALLY INDEPENDENT. what does that mean?
It means  that you have enough money to cover at a minimum, all your expenses, and have the ability to select from whom you buy the things you need.
It does NOT MEAN that you have the ability to BORROW enough money to cover at a minimum all of your expenses.

If a country is ENERGY INDEPENDENT, it means that the country produces, at a minimum, all the energy that it consumes and can SET THE PRICE of that energy.

You do not comprehend what is meant by Energy Independent.
The US has never been energy independent. The people and government do not control the corporations that produce energy. The prices have always been set by market forces. (This may not have been true during WWII, because the government rationed gasoline and some other petroleum products.
You can make up all the idiotic definitions you want, but energy independence has NOTHING TO DO with setting prices for fossil fuel energy.  Every country is free to set their own prices within their country whether they are exporters or not, BUT they sell their oil and gas to others at FREE MARKET PRICES.  The price of gas in Iran is about $1.44 per gallon and they are net exporters, but they earn much more than that on their oil exports.  They simply choose to appease their citizenry by making it cheaper than what the rest of the world pays for their oil coming from Iran. ANY country can subsidize the cost of gas if they want to for themselves.

Show me where you found the definition that shows that a country cannot be considered energy independent if it doesn't set prices differently than market prices.  Any country which has sufficient energy for it's own need IS ENERGY INDEPENDENT, and it has NOTHING to do with prices! 

We WERE energy independent under Trump, and there's no doubt you ignorant liberals HATED that fact for no other reason than you hated Trump, and you'd rather see the country suffering under $6 a gallon gas and being thrust into a recession than to give him credit for the great strides he made making us ENERGY INDEPENDENT!  
 
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