FOS » 20 Jun 2021, 7:30 pm » wrote: ↑
I guess I could say, lol, that you are walking a fine line here between the no true Scotsman fallacy and the argument from popularity fallacy.
Like no...let's not commit either fallacy. Liberalism should be defined by is philosophical priors. 'government is bad' is indeed one of those priors.
Well here's what the "philosophical priors" had to say about liberalism:
1700s + prior: Monarchy is bad. We need constitutional republics and secularism.
1800s: We need labor unions and government reform of industry while still opposing socialism. Liberal nationalism is good.
Early to mid 1900s: We need to oppose Communism and fascism while extending capitalist reforms.
1960s - present: Racism, sexism, transphobia, homophobia are bad. Nationalism bad. White man bad. Orange man bad.