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jerrab » 01 Jul 2024, 11:39 pm » wrote: ↑ I take it that you have lived in a dictatorship, or live in a dictatorship. whatever, hamilton had trump pegged.

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Trump touts Supreme Court's presidential immunity ruling as 'big win for our Constitution and for democracy'
You haven't developed the proper amount of cynicism to really understand how power works or understand the words of politicians and judges in the proper context. 

The Supreme Court ruling has nothing to do with allowing dictatorship. If there was no presidential immunity, then Trump could have been charged with murder for the assassination of general soleimani. You or I certainly would have, if we had decided to kill him as private citizens. Presidents would not have access to classified information. Etc. Basically presidents would be unable to perform their job at all if they were not exempt from certain laws. I can assure you that this Supreme court ruling does not give the president a free hand to abolish the Supreme Court or the house of representatives.

but a clause for that does exist in our constitution, and the founding fathers were fine with it. In a 'state of emergency' the president can abolish the 'checks and balances' in our government and rule as a dictator. And what conditions are necessary for a 'state of emergency'? Well...that is open to interpretation. Based on the letter of the law that currently exists, any president could just tell some lies and acquire dictator powers. 

The founding fathers just wanted to be independent of the British crown. It was politically useful for them to complain about dictatorship and the institution of monarchy. But a common theme you will note is that they ultimately make it the responsibility of the people to avoid it. They expect some violent armed rebellion to take down a dictator. But that is always just a given. Nobody needs to grant permission to the people to revolt...they can try that any time they want....regardless of what government they are in or whether it is illegal. 'Permission' from the founding fathers is irrelevant. The reason revolution is rare is because organizing one is difficult and people don't want to die. It is about as useful as telling people they have freedom of speech but they might be killed for things they say. That is just a roundabout way of not having freedom of speech.
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