Robotic barbarian war slaver corporation view points where the individual citizens who are being random bombed have no way to obtain any representation for various life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness negotiations. People should be studying the way that Russia was able to terminate the Soviet Union thought control monarchy and change over to a Constitutional Republic.Monderegal » 29 Jan 2023, 9:39 am » wrote: ↑ We haven't invaded Ukraine, Syria, Libya (although there was an intervention there under R2P), Yemen, Venezuela, or Mexico. When we did invade Iraq it was met by condemnation even within the United States among others and it wasn't a mission to build empire. Afghanistan has been called the "good war" because we had a large host of nations supporting the mission (which is also the case with Iraq). Ukraine was simply a response by Russia to take territory because Putin didn't like how Ukrainian politics was heading. Did the Ukrainian people want closer ties with the West? Probably and I'm not going to be so naïve to say the West didn't play some sort of role in Ukrainian politics. Guess what, Russia did too. War was not merited in the case of Ukraine given its ultimate motive.