10 Nov 2024 9:17 pm
It still has to follow NY law...not common parlance, not dictionary definitions but the actual NY law which had a clear definition at the time of the incident and civil trial. Note I have NOT said Trump was not found guilty (which is only possible in a criminal trial). I have been saying that Trump has never been found to have committed rape in any court, of any kind in any country on earth. Go to the filing Kaplan made (that you are so happy about posting) and look at page 3. Just in case you are still too lazy to do that, he it is:Blackvegetable » 10 Nov 2024, 8:46 pm » wrote: ↑ This is a CIVIL trial.......
Do you understand this?
This jury did not award Ms. Carroll more than $2 million for groping her breasts
through her clothing, wrongful as that might have been. There was no evidence at all of such
behavior. Instead, the proof convincingly established, and the jury implicitly found, that Mr. Trump
deliberately and forcibly penetrated Ms. Carroll’s vagina with his fingers, causing immediate pain
and long lasting emotional and psychological harm. Mr. Trump’s argument therefore ignores the
bulk of the evidence at trial, misinterprets the jury’s verdict, and mistakenly focuses on the New
York Penal Law definition of “rape” to the exclusion of the meaning of that word as it often is used
in everyday life and of the evidence of what actually occurred between Ms. Carroll and Mr. Trump.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... .212.0.pdf
Just in case you have trouble understanding all those big words...here is the actual verdict form turned in to the court when they reached agreement.The jury’s unanimous verdict in Carroll II was almost entirely in favor of Ms. Carroll. The only point on which Ms. Carroll did not prevail was whether she had proved that Mr. Trump had “raped” her within the narrow, technical meaning of a particular section of the New York Penal Law – a section that provides that the label “rape” as used in criminal prosecutions in New York applies only to vaginal penetration by a penis. Forcible, unconsented-to penetration of the vagina or of other bodily orifices by fingers, other body parts, or other articles or materials is not called “rape” under the New York Penal Law. It instead is labeled “sexual abuse.”
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/0 ... l-00096059
Note the answer to question #1 on the very first page. That, and only that, is the official jury finding in accordance to NY Penal Law. I understand it causes you great emotional stress...but it is FACT.
Until you are mature enough to abandon the whiny *** liberal talking point and accept fact, there is nothing more to discuss. Live in your liberal fantasy world if you wish. That is certainly your right...just like it is the right of everyone with a maturity level beyond that of a third grader to think you're a blithering partisan idiot.
Personally, while I didn't vote for him this time around, I am far more interested in what President-elect Trump will do in the next four years and looking forward to seeing Commie-lahaha crawl off into the sunset.