maineman » 28 Jan 2023, 2:03 pm » wrote: ↑
I could give a **** what Madison or Hamilton THOUGHT about democracy. The fact is, small "d" democracy is defined as government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system. And the specific form that the people chose was a Republic. We elect representatives to the governing body (congress) under a free electoral system.
And let's just call a spade a spade here, Mister Honeypot... all this faux outrage over representative democracy versus republic is just your way of tap dancing away from the *** whipping you got on your ridiculous "healthcare equals socialism" argument. We are a representative democracy and we, the people have democratically chosen to govern ourselves in a Republic format...that was our choice and we made it in a truly democratic fashion... using a free and fair election system like all functioning democracies use... like, say, Great Britain, which is both a parliamentary democracy and a constitutional monarchy. You know that is a fact just as well as you know you got your *** kicked about fire departments and police departments and public works departments and health care systems all being a part of a thriving capitalist economy and not a socialist one.
Now try and punch above your weight here for a moment; at least ACT like you have half a brain and just let this one slip down below the fold. I'll keep spanking you dumb *** for as long as you want, but it would seem to me that CAN'T be very pleasant.
Oh and your silly quote was fake news back when it was mistakenly attributed to Kruschev just like it is today.
Yeah, we know that you SOCIALISTS don't want to hear what the actual founders of this nation had to say because it interferes with your push for "democracy".
But you know WHO DID want to see Democracy?? Why none other than YOUR FAVORITE FATHER, KARL MARX!! You know, your favorite of all times when it comes to "how to turn a Capitalist society into a Communist one through the socialist method"!!
Did Marx believe in democratic socialism? Both Leninism and Marxism–Leninism have emphasised democracy, endorsing some form of democratic organisation of society and the economy whilst supporting democratic centralism, with Marxist–Leninists and others arguing that socialist states such as the Soviet Union were democratic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_socialism
Run along now child. Your little hiney is a RED AS A BEET from the stomping you just had administered!!
Oh and I never once said healthcare was socialism. I SAID that SINGLE PAYOR healthcare PROVIDED BY GOVERNMENT AND CONTROLLED BY GOVERNMENT is totally SOCIALIST!! OPEN YOUR F'ING EYES and TRY to comprehend what is being said rather than reinventing BS to suit your FAILED ARGUMENT, SFB'S!!
Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.