30 Dec 2021 12:57 am
I've been asked and answered this question several times. Likely by you. You seem to think this is a question which furthers your argument in some manner. It doesn't. It is merely a Red Herring. It is a brain dead query quite frankly and not at all relevant for serious contemplation.Cannonpointer » 30 Dec 2021, 12:17 am » wrote: ↑ We must strive to avoid THAT unpleasantness at all costs.
Here is a thought experiment I would invite you to engage in (AFTER you watch the 4 minute video I proffered):
Name every capitalist country that exists or has ever existed which did not boast a significant socialist cohort.
If you cannot name any, is it fair to suggest that socialism and capitalism have some sort of relationship to one another - that perhaps the one CAUSES the other, RELIES on the other to maintain itself?
No system of government can exist without a system of government. So all governments which have ever existed cannot be devoid of government. So the hell what? Ask a completely stupid question and you get a stupid answer. But the answer is correct as you framed the question.
Government provision of ANY function is by definition socialist in some regard. For instance having a judicial system of any kind would rightly be considered a socialist endeavor. Any taxes which are expended for the common good (in this case to provide for judicial review) would be considered socialism. So without socialism there are no government functions conducted. Without taxation it would be a strange endeavor indeed for government to conduct any function of import beyond charitable contributions of labor from its citizens.
Your implication is equivalent to stating "without taxation you can't have government so socialism is the only valid system". This doesn't pass philosophical reasoning conventions and is obviously just useless contemplation designed to gain a hollow victory. The posing an illogical question irrelevant to the inquiry. The insinuation is that any form of government requires some form of government and therefore capitalism can't exist so it is invalid. I will concede the point with uproarious laughter and ascendancy.