11 Jun 2022 11:12 am
Cannonpointer » 11 Jun 2022, 10:48 am » wrote: ↑ I was pro-gay rights (stopping short on the gay marriage and gay adoption issues) for decades - right up until the court shoved gay marrige down our throats, and I quickly recognized the que of pedos and gender-flouters lined up wearing their my-turn tees. Then I changed my tune - I recognized my error.
This was my error - an error common to liberals and conservatives, alike, in the United States: I was hyper-focused on INDIVIDUAL rights, to the exclusion of SOCIETAL rights and social responsibilities. Unless and until one recognizes that society AS society has some rights (or at least, interests - and the power to enforce those interests, even when they conflict with individual rights), one cannot fully comprehend the issues in play. And that was my failing, when I opposed enforcement of sodomy laws.
Consider eminent domain laws. They are uniformly enforced against the rights and interests of citizens. Yet the Founders saw the necessity of reserving to the government the power to enforce eminent domain. The same thing they were protecting (the vital interests of the collective over the rights of a few individuals) is what sodomy laws used to protect - and should again.
Well I think you are right to distinguish between society and the individual. I also think sodomy laws probably are more individually oriented. The Supreme Court decisions dealing with gay rights are also somewhat convoluted given they are on the shaky legal ground of Roe v. Wade. Perhaps they also might be overturned too.
Nothing is easier than defending the status quo.