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Varnaj42
26 Jan 2023 1:39 pm
26 Jan 2023 1:39 pm
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FOS » 26 Jan 2023, 12:08 pm » wrote: And the people of crimea themselves wanted to join Russia. The ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine have been treated like **** by Ukraine since 2014...their language and religion basically outlawed...many of them simply being killed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Odesa_clashes

Like I said...it would be dishonorable for putin not to involve himself in such stuff
You are correct to say that SOME of the citizens in those regions wanted to join Russia.  Only some.  Not even a majority.  This is normal for any trans-national region regardless of ethnicity.   The trouble is the way those folks were accomodated.   They held a local referendum sponsored by Russia.   The government of Ukraine was left out of the process.  This is the basis for my complaint.   In such an action, where lands change from one nation to another, the governments of both nations should be involved.  In this case the referendum should have been coordinated by both Ukraine and Russia.  It was not.  Ukraine was left out of the decision making process.

More recently in my city of origin, Kherson, after the Russians took over they again had a referendum.  Again Ukraine was left out of the process.  The people laughed at them while Russian soldiers were busy looting markets, stealing cigarettes and vodka and stealing washing machines from citizens. 

There is a huge difference between solving the social disputes that result from international borders through diplomacy and the act of simply taking land because some citizens want it that way.   This is the basis of all the complaints.  

International land disputes are settled through the participation of BOTH governments...

 
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