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Prospero
6 Jun 2023 6:45 pm
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Cannonpointer » 06 Jun 2023, 6:28 pm » wrote:
Dear retarded man,

FDR persecuted gays as Assistant Secretary of the Navy and the Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI). He literally set honey traps targeting them, and when questioned why, he responded: “I did it for the uplift of humanity and the Navy.” After the sting rounded up a score of gay men, he put them in solitary for more than a hundred days before they were officially charged with sodomy and “scandalous conduct.”
You base this on what evidence?   FDR, as Assistant Secretary of the Navy did coincide with the Newport Sex Scandal in 1919, which involved entrapment of men alleged to be engaging in homosexual activities. However, characterizing FDR as personally persecuting gays might be a stretch - historical sources suggest that he approved the inquiry but was not directly involved in its execution. You'll need to source this (okay, I see your link, I'll check it out)  and let me look at what you are basing your conclusions on.  But you have to factor in the prevailing attitudes at the time.  You appear to be guilty of a phenomenon called "presentism." It's a historical fallacy where one interprets past events in terms of modern values and concepts. Presentism can lead to anachronistic misunderstandings of historical contexts and behaviors, because it fails to consider the distinct societal norms, beliefs, and environmental conditions of the past. 
And let me save you some embarrassment. He did NOT cool off on the topic during his presidency. You know - the presidency whose policies you claim to support, research guy?

Thank you for standing with me against the scourge of sodomy, fruitcake.  Image   Image   Image  

Oh - here's that link, Destroyer of Sodomites: https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/fdrs ... ent-sting/
You base your entire opinion on a Podcast?  Your scholarship is piss poor.  

Your incessant attempts ot posturing, ad homs, patronizing, and condescension, lack of scholarship self puffery demonstrate clearly you are a novice in the art of debate. 

And then you claim to be an FDR dem and what do you do?  You attack FDR, what he did before he was president, based on a podcast. 

You sure as hell are no FDR Dem.  

In the mean time,

Get an education.  
 
 
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