3 Jun 2023 6:22 am
Due do the 4000 character limitation, this reply is in two parts: Part 1.Cannonpointer » 03 Jun 2023, 1:16 am » wrote: ↑ If they were not uncommon, you'd not signal desperation by invoking south korea. What's next - Uraguay?
Surely you are not comparing SK to Uruguay? There are no countries, really, on par with America, so this idea that we can't use other first world countries as a comparative basis rings hollow.
That it hasn't been done isn't an argument for not doing it. America has never had a demagogue. Germany did, so did Spain, Argentina, Vemezuela, etc. Now that America has, she must deal with him in a way that is just. If Trump is a criminal, and I believe there is enough evidence to make that claim, then, according to the American principle that no man is about the law, he must be tried in a court of law, according to the facts and applicable law.Sarkozy got a year on house arrest. The French ARE first world - but not representative of the anglo-saxon ethic to which I referred. In the case of nutsinyoohoo, he's still running the show. The indictment means ****. Spare me fluff and korean jabber.
I will grant that the anglo-saxon ethic on which my off-the-cuff argument relied is a TAD watered down on these shores, these days. But imprisoning former leaders is a thing which has never been done in America. What you are pretending has precedent hasn't.
Is he an avatar on this forum, or are you referring to the historical figure? I'm not seeing why you mentioned it.Hey, wait. You could use jefferon davis!
Not seeing evidence of that contention, so far, but, moving on......Well, let us not rob the matter of context, shall we? You commit the following three GROSS errors:
That would make sense if it were true, but you haven't provided evidence of your contention. So, until then, your argument on that point is weak.1. You strain at a gnat in the case of trump's behavior, while swallowing an elephant as regards Biden's far more egregious behavior in the matter of handling classified material.
We are anonymous here. Who makes the argument isn't important. All that matters is the argument. Either you can demonstrate, with evidence, facts, testimony, documents, links to authoritative supplements to embolden your contention, provide a path of reason and logic, or you can't. Your point is not an argument, not that you care about that, but I should think that on debate forums the argument is the central thing.More importantly, you run other men's talking points like a cheap suit. This signals you're a not a thinker - just a regurgitator with no standing to demand etiquette from his/her/zim's betters.
That isn't really an argument. It is a sentiment, and sentiments are fine, perhaps an interesting take, but, in my view, don't really forward the discussion, or not that much. They just tell us more about yourself, and that means you assume I'm interested, and I'm really not. I'm here to find the best argument, be it mine, be it ChatGTP/AI, be it yours or that of another. I will concede to more compelling arguments than my own, that is all that matters. If Chat has a more compelling arguent than my own, I won't hesitate to use it. Again, I repeat, we are anonymous here, all that matters is the argument. I do recognize that not everyone is here for the reason I'm here. Some are here just to amuse themselves, not really into debating, or searching for the most compelling argument, as I am, and that is fine.2. You run another hackneyed "we got him this time" to an exhausted, eye-rolling audience. I'm sure you've got him this time.