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It is not the method but the men who make the difference. The men whose argumentation you rightly hold as the ideal were ubermenschen, likely with some mysterious access to stimulating their pineal gands. The men you rightly point to as failures are in fact apprentice ****-gibbons.Vegas » Yesterday, 11:35 am » wrote: ↑ I read a lot of ancient Greek philosophy. I believe they understood what debate meant. Their one goal was to arrive at the truth. Even if it was a small bit. They considered that an enormous victory. Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Pythagoras ( highly intelligent, but also an asshole), Parmenides, Zeno, and many others had only one goal when debating. To help each other arrive at the truth. If they arrived at an irrefutable conclusion, then they all won. If not, then they kept trying.
Today? It's about a winner and a loser. It's not about finding the truth. Hell, someone can be completely full of ****, but still declared a winner of a debate simply because they talk cunningly and know how to manipulate the conversation more than their opponent. Yet, they are still full of ****.
The most common tactic that thse ignorant sleazy fools use these days is to respond to questions with questions, avoid answering directly, and make the other person defend themselves instead.
We all know @Blackvegetable does this. K'fools (Andrew Wilson) does it repeatedly. Charlie Kirk did it incessantly.
You cannot compare ubermenschen to apprentice **** gibbons, and then blame the measuring stick for the difference. If the apprentice ****-gibbons DID use the Socratic Method, it would be a disaster. To the untrained, it would refute the Socratic Method itself. Only those with zoology degrees would recognize the real problem - **** slingers.
Well, apprentice **** slingers.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?