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5 Mar 2024 10:05 pm
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Cannonpointer » 05 Mar 2024, 10:21 pm » wrote: At this point I think it is pretty clear you are too deeply invested emotionally to argue the facts rationally. 

Any rational person, having had it explained to them, would understand that the very act of confining them to Gaza and disallowing their travel within israel - even to west bank - is ethnic cleansing by definition. 

They are on reservations, son. Try to think. Try to apply definitions. You can do it. That land - the land that Israel holds in statehood - used to have palestinians all throughout. They were rounded up, and put on reservations. Take a breath, bro, You can do this math, if you settle your adrenal issues and look at it dispassionately, using the actual meanings of words. 

No matter WHAT you think MY motivations are, yours ought to be to form rational and cogent explanations of the world you inhabit. And when you use POPULATION in an equation that should be based on LAND, not population, you forsake any attempt at rational argument. 

When you can stop conflating genocide with ethnic cleansing, you will be on the road to arguing why you SUPPORT ethnic cleansing, rather than making the manifestly silly and universally rejected claim that ethnic cleansing and apartheid are not the official state policy of Israel. The 15% of Israel that are practicing Orthodox Jews agree with me - not you. Does that mean that you are an anti-semite?

Not by my math - but by yours... maybe so...
        LMAO.... You have been in a State of Anti-Israeli hysterics and can't see a damn thing through your disdain & contempt for that country since the word go.. Look how those who share your Views carry themselves in their protests.... Unhinged, overemotional loons... 

       No surprise to see you're one of the flock who find it hard to fathom why an internationally recognized Terror Group on your border, who is sworn to your complete annihilation, and regularly launches missiles indiscriminately at you would not have unfettered access into your country.... LOL
By the way, many Gazans had been allowed to cross into Israel to work jobs.... But you have no grasp as to why that arrangement might have changed after October 7th.. 

       Again, the Gazan and West Bank Arabs are victims of little other than their own disastrous choices in leadership, and also the interference / military intervention of neighbouring Arab countries ----- And again, when you lose wars (especially those you initiated ) you lose land... It really is just that simple and a consequence of Wars since the beginning of time.... 

     That is precisely why what was originally allocated as Palestinian / Arab land, and Israel by the UN in 1947 are no longer what they were... But you sure as hell wouldn't call it ethnic cleansing had the Arab Armies been victorious and won chunks of Israeli territory if the Jews had repeatedly initiated and lost wars.. 
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