So what you are saying is you haven't even bothered to go look at the data for 2023 on excess deaths. You are the last person I would guess that needs to be spoon fed. Figured you were on top of this ****!Cannonpointer » 28 Aug 2023, 9:56 am » wrote: ↑ No, ****, I do not like charts that have no author and no link with access to the raw numbers (and their provenance).